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November 14th 04, 05:32 PM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4YZ) writes: The difference (as I see it) is how we respond. But perhaps your point is valid also. Thank-you. But it was YOUR point, Jim, not mine! So I'm correct all around! Len calls me name, posts things that aren't true and attempts to insult me. In general he behaves like an out-of-control child here. Does that mean I should do the same? Hmmm? "Hmmm?" indeed, Jim. Just answer the question, Steve. Should I behave as Len does or not? It's not a matter of how Lennie behaves or how you respond to it, Jim, it's THAT you respond after having offered counsel to others to NOT respond at all. I agree, now that you've pointed it out. Still, you've avoided my question: - Should I behave as Len does or not? You do keep coming back. Very true. It does keep giving him a "raison de guerre" If attention is all he wants, you have a very valid point. What else can he want, Jim? Perhaps he really does think that his antics can lead to a better ARS. Or maybe he wants the ARS as we know it destroyed. He doesn't have nor does it seem he really wants a license. That was clear years ago. It could have been his decades ago if he wanted it. He could be a part of the same fraternity you and I are and be making his mark amongst them if he so chose to do so. Instead he's the King with his New Clothes. I seem to recall someone's actions here being described as "pointing out that Emperor Len has no logical clothes".... You have children, Steve. If one of them acts like a child, do *you* do the same? I doubt it very much. Thankfully when she gets out of sorts, I can redirect her and she acts accordingly. There ae consequences for acting foolish, and she rarely transgresses. But that doesn't answer the question. If a child of yours throws a tantrum, do you do the same? I really don't think you do. Hmmm? However, if both are points are processed together, there's another fact that develops: If a child acts out simply to get attention, *any* attention is rewarding that behavior. He's a scumbag bully. Well, that's a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact. It's a fact that it's an opinion! It's a fact that he IS a scumbag bully. There's just too much documentation to the contrary. It's an opinion as to what constitutes documentation. A "bully" is someone who gets others to do his/her bidding by force or intimidation. When has Len been able to do that to me? Everytime you respond to him, Jim...EVERY time. Not as I see it. But that doesn't mean I should respond, because it may be rewarding the behavior regardless of the style of the response. Yep. Regardless of whether you threw the dog the bone, or whether he tore it off the postman's leg, he gets it. I say leave him chained up and let him starve. Arf! At best, Len is a bully-wannabe. Everytime you respond to him, he wins. If attention is his goal, you're absolutely right. Someone in this NG taught me that...Now WHO could it be...?!?! I'm not quite sure... Coughcough snickersnicker.... =) You need a good ENT person? Can you cite a single project or program that incorporates a SINGLE reference to any of Lennie's "Ham Radio" writings? Nope. But then again, I haven't read every issue of "ham radio", "CQ" or "73". Nor have I visited every amateur radio website in existence. There may exist, somewhere out there, a reference to Len's articles in "ham radio" magazine. Besides, what does it matter? Len's most recent article in "ham radio" was published over 22 years ago IIRC. And you can bet your bottom dollar if Sir Scumbag had even ONE citeable use of ANY of his work in Amateur Radio, he'd have rubbed our noses in it by now. You know...I never thought of that....and you're absolutely right. Thanks again. Can I frame this post? I thought you printed out and framed all my posts. ;-) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#223
November 14th 04, 11:53 PM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om...
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4YZ) writes: He keeps you coming back when you keep telling everyone else to "stop responding to him". He doesn't "keep me coming back". I respond to him when it suits me to do so. Coughcough...snickersnicker... The "Master/Stooge" relationship deteriorates. |
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#224
November 15th 04, 12:03 AM
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Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 11/14/2004 11:32 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4YZ) writes: The difference (as I see it) is how we respond. But perhaps your point is valid also. Thank-you. But it was YOUR point, Jim, not mine! So I'm correct all around! Len calls me name, posts things that aren't true and attempts to insult me. In general he behaves like an out-of-control child here. Does that mean I should do the same? Hmmm? "Hmmm?" indeed, Jim. Just answer the question, Steve. Should I behave as Len does or not? It's not a matter of how Lennie behaves or how you respond to it, Jim, it's THAT you respond after having offered counsel to others to NOT respond at all. I agree, now that you've pointed it out. Still, you've avoided my question: - Should I behave as Len does or not? And I have answered it, Jim. It's not about "acting like Lennie". It's a fact that he IS a scumbag bully. There's just too much documentation to the contrary. It's an opinion as to what constitutes documentation. I am quite satisfied that Google's archives do that nicely. A "bully" is someone who gets others to do his/her bidding by force or intimidation. When has Len been able to do that to me? Everytime you respond to him, Jim...EVERY time. Not as I see it. But that doesn't mean I should respond, because it may be rewarding the behavior regardless of the style of the response. Yep. Regardless of whether you threw the dog the bone, or whether he tore it off the postman's leg, he gets it. I say leave him chained up and let him starve. Arf! Arf arf! Thanks again. Can I frame this post? I thought you printed out and framed all my posts. ;-) I can't afford that much paper! =) 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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#225
November 15th 04, 03:43 AM
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PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4YZ) writes: The difference (as I see it) is how we respond. But perhaps your point is valid also. Thank-you. But it was YOUR point, Jim, not mine! So I'm correct all around! Of course. Len calls me name, posts things that aren't true and attempts to insult me. In general he behaves like an out-of-control child here. Does that mean I should do the same? Hmmm? "Hmmm?" indeed, Jim. Just answer the question, Steve. Should I behave as Len does or not? It's not a matter of how Lennie behaves or how you respond to it, Jim, it's THAT you respond after having offered counsel to others to NOT respond at all. I agree, now that you've pointed it out. Still, you've avoided my question: - Should I behave as Len does or not? Better yet, should you behave as Steve does, or not? You do keep coming back. Very true. It does keep giving him a "raison de guerre" If attention is all he wants, you have a very valid point. What else can he want, Jim? Perhaps he really does think that his antics can lead to a better ARS. Or maybe he wants the ARS as we know it destroyed. Maybe. Ask him. He doesn't have nor does it seem he really wants a license. That was clear years ago. Really? It could have been his decades ago if he wanted it. He could be a part of the same fraternity you and I are and be making his mark amongst them if he so chose to do so. Instead he's the King with his New Clothes. I seem to recall someone's actions here being described as "pointing out that Emperor Len has no logical clothes".... Oh, my! That must be where the fixation on Len's genitalia began. You have children, Steve. If one of them acts like a child, do *you* do the same? I doubt it very much. You should leave Steve's family out of the fray. Thankfully when she gets out of sorts, I can redirect her and she acts accordingly. There ae consequences for acting foolish, and she rarely transgresses. But that doesn't answer the question. If a child of yours throws a tantrum, do you do the same? I really don't think you do. Hmmm? Hmm? However, if both are points are processed together, there's another fact that develops: If a child acts out simply to get attention, *any* attention is rewarding that behavior. He's a scumbag bully. Well, that's a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact. It's a fact that it's an opinion! It's a fact that he IS a scumbag bully. There's just too much documentation to the contrary. It's an opinion as to what constitutes documentation. Indeed. Steve is the documented bully. A "bully" is someone who gets others to do his/her bidding by force or intimidation. When has Len been able to do that to me? Everytime you respond to him, Jim...EVERY time. Not as I see it. But that doesn't mean I should respond, because it may be rewarding the behavior regardless of the style of the response. Yep. Regardless of whether you threw the dog the bone, or whether he tore it off the postman's leg, he gets it. I say leave him chained up and let him starve. Arf! At best, Len is a bully-wannabe. Everytime you respond to him, he wins. If attention is his goal, you're absolutely right. Someone in this NG taught me that...Now WHO could it be...?!?! I'm not quite sure... Coughcough snickersnicker.... =) You need a good ENT person? Has Steve ever learned a lesson? He shouts names and absurd accusations at every opportunity. Can you cite a single project or program that incorporates a SINGLE reference to any of Lennie's "Ham Radio" writings? Nope. But then again, I haven't read every issue of "ham radio", "CQ" or "73". Nor have I visited every amateur radio website in existence. There may exist, somewhere out there, a reference to Len's articles in "ham radio" magazine. Besides, what does it matter? Len's most recent article in "ham radio" was published over 22 years ago IIRC. And you can bet your bottom dollar if Sir Scumbag had even ONE citeable use of ANY of his work in Amateur Radio, he'd have rubbed our noses in it by now. You know...I never thought of that....and you're absolutely right. Thanks again. Can I frame this post? I thought you printed out and framed all my posts. ;-) 73 de Jim, N2EY Indeed he does. |
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#226
November 15th 04, 09:59 PM
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#227
November 15th 04, 09:59 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4YZ) writes: The difference (as I see it) is how we respond. But perhaps your point is valid also. Thank-you. But it was YOUR point, Jim, not mine! So I'm correct all around! Of course. He always is, by His definition. Len calls me name, posts things that aren't true and attempts to insult me. In general he behaves like an out-of-control child here. Does that mean I should do the same? Hmmm? "Hmmm?" indeed, Jim. Just answer the question, Steve. Should I behave as Len does or not? It's not a matter of how Lennie behaves or how you respond to it, Jim, it's THAT you respond after having offered counsel to others to NOT respond at all. I agree, now that you've pointed it out. Still, you've avoided my question: - Should I behave as Len does or not? Better yet, should you behave as Steve does, or not? Tsk. I called "Jim" by the NAME "Jim." He wanted me to change it from "Jim" to "Jim." That is what he terms "calling him names." You do keep coming back. Very true. It does keep giving him a "raison de guerre" If attention is all he wants, you have a very valid point. What else can he want, Jim? Perhaps he really does think that his antics can lead to a better ARS. Or maybe he wants the ARS as we know it destroyed. Maybe. Ask him. Tsk. He can't ask directly...or he loads it so that any answer will be fuel for more negative criticism. He doesn't have nor does it seem he really wants a license. That was clear years ago. Really? Tsk. I stated my intentions clearly from the beginning. That hasn't changed. OTHERS keep wanting to change it...as if... It could have been his decades ago if he wanted it. He could be a part of the same fraternity you and I are and be making his mark amongst them if he so chose to do so. Instead he's the King with his New Clothes. I seem to recall someone's actions here being described as "pointing out that Emperor Len has no logical clothes".... Oh, my! That must be where the fixation on Len's genitalia began. Tsk. I don't dare show. It would cause so much envy they would go berserk. :-) You have children, Steve. If one of them acts like a child, do *you* do the same? I doubt it very much. You should leave Steve's family out of the fray. No, such misdirects are perfectly OK for the PCTA extra. Anything which can become a winning message point for them is okay. Thankfully when she gets out of sorts, I can redirect her and she acts accordingly. There ae consequences for acting foolish, and she rarely transgresses. But that doesn't answer the question. If a child of yours throws a tantrum, do you do the same? I really don't think you do. Hmmm? Hmm? However, if both are points are processed together, there's another fact that develops: If a child acts out simply to get attention, *any* attention is rewarding that behavior. He's a scumbag bully. Well, that's a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact. It's a fact that it's an opinion! It's a fact that he IS a scumbag bully. There's just too much documentation to the contrary. It's an opinion as to what constitutes documentation. Indeed. Steve is the documented bully. ...and pathological. :-) A "bully" is someone who gets others to do his/her bidding by force or intimidation. When has Len been able to do that to me? Everytime you respond to him, Jim...EVERY time. Not as I see it. But that doesn't mean I should respond, because it may be rewarding the behavior regardless of the style of the response. Yep. Regardless of whether you threw the dog the bone, or whether he tore it off the postman's leg, he gets it. I say leave him chained up and let him starve. Arf! At best, Len is a bully-wannabe. Everytime you respond to him, he wins. If attention is his goal, you're absolutely right. Someone in this NG taught me that...Now WHO could it be...?!?! I'm not quite sure... Coughcough snickersnicker.... =) You need a good ENT person? Has Steve ever learned a lesson? He shouts names and absurd accusations at every opportunity. Perfectly okay for PCTA extras. Can you cite a single project or program that incorporates a SINGLE reference to any of Lennie's "Ham Radio" writings? Nope. But then again, I haven't read every issue of "ham radio", "CQ" or "73". Nor have I visited every amateur radio website in existence. There may exist, somewhere out there, a reference to Len's articles in "ham radio" magazine. Besides, what does it matter? Len's most recent article in "ham radio" was published over 22 years ago IIRC. And you can bet your bottom dollar if Sir Scumbag had even ONE citeable use of ANY of his work in Amateur Radio, he'd have rubbed our noses in it by now. You know...I never thought of that....and you're absolutely right. Thanks again. Can I frame this post? I thought you printed out and framed all my posts. ;-) 73 de Jim, N2EY Indeed he does. Welp, there goes another forest... |
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#228
November 15th 04, 09:59 PM
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(William) writes: The point is suggesting one course of actions to everyone else, yet continuing the same course of action yourself. It doesn't look right. That has been the crux of Steve's problem with his adversaries. He accuses them of being liars all the while lying himself. It just isn't right. No problem. PCTA extras have complete freedom of hypocrisy. In here. NCTAs must be absolutely, positively "correct" (according to the PCTA extra code of ethics) or they are riverbottom scum (or other nasty pejoratives). In here. |
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#229
November 17th 04, 11:52 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... Still, you've avoided my question: - Should I behave as Len does or not? Better yet, should you behave as Steve does, or not? Tsk. I called "Jim" by the NAME "Jim." He wanted me to change it from "Jim" to "Jim." That is what he terms "calling him names." He still thinks you are calling him "Jimmy." How awful. We should call him "James" as he gave his name as "James" to the FCC. |
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