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November 4th 04, 11:29 PM
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#3
November 5th 04, 01:58 AM
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(William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... Or the guy who claims to have operated from T5 but cannot recall what bands, modes, radios, or antennas were used? He recalls, but the green envy and the accusations ****ed him off. But...but...but...Jimmie's "been there, done all that" and "knows exactly what it is like!" Hi hi. He owes N2EY no explanation, and N2EY will receive none. Right on! He hopes N2EY will understand. Hah! Fat chance! Jimmie thinks he is the "perfect ham" and can do NO wrong, always "corrects" others who "make all those mistakes." That's been the recurring underlayer in his postings here. PCTAs never apologize...except in a blue moon (when their hair mysteriously grows out...) |
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#4
November 5th 04, 04:12 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... Or the guy who claims to have operated from T5 but cannot recall what bands, modes, radios, or antennas were used? He recalls, but the green envy and the accusations ****ed him off. But...but...but...Jimmie's "been there, done all that" and "knows exactly what it is like!" Hi hi. In the grand scheme of things, N2EY has been very few places and has done very few things of importance. He owes N2EY no explanation, and N2EY will receive none. Right on! ... He hopes N2EY will understand. Hah! Fat chance! No matter. Really. Jimmie thinks he is the "perfect ham" and can do NO wrong, always "corrects" others who "make all those mistakes." That's been the recurring underlayer in his postings here. N2EY has been wallowing in the slop and slurry of late. But he thinks he still smells sweetly. PCTAs never apologize...except in a blue moon (when their hair mysteriously grows out...) Blue Moon. A delicious micro-brew in the belgian-wheat tradition. |
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November 5th 04, 08:27 PM
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(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... Or the guy who claims to have operated from T5 but cannot recall what bands, modes, radios, or antennas were used? He recalls, but the green envy and the accusations ****ed him off. But...but...but...Jimmie's "been there, done all that" and "knows exactly what it is like!" Hi hi. In the grand scheme of things, N2EY has been very few places and has done very few things of importance. Tsk. He has an AOL Homepage! :-) He owes N2EY no explanation, and N2EY will receive none. Right on! .. He hopes N2EY will understand. Hah! Fat chance! No matter. Really. True. Except "N2EY" is most disturbed about that. "N2EY" has SET the rules and what he say goes... Jimmie thinks he is the "perfect ham" and can do NO wrong, always "corrects" others who "make all those mistakes." That's been the recurring underlayer in his postings here. N2EY has been wallowing in the slop and slurry of late. But he thinks he still smells sweetly. Of course he does. He nose all. :-) PCTAs never apologize...except in a blue moon (when their hair mysteriously grows out...) Blue Moon. A delicious micro-brew in the belgian-wheat tradition. Haven't tried it. Not into any beers and don't bother to drink much. I follow the mathematician's rule: "Never drink and derive." :-) |
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#6
November 7th 04, 01:04 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... Or the guy who claims to have operated from T5 but cannot recall what bands, modes, radios, or antennas were used? He recalls, but the green envy and the accusations ****ed him off. But...but...but...Jimmie's "been there, done all that" and "knows exactly what it is like!" Hi hi. In the grand scheme of things, N2EY has been very few places and has done very few things of importance. Tsk. He has an AOL Homepage! :-) Awesome! Yawn. He owes N2EY no explanation, and N2EY will receive none. Right on! .. He hopes N2EY will understand. Hah! Fat chance! No matter. Really. True. Except "N2EY" is most disturbed about that. "N2EY" has SET the rules and what he say goes... Fine. There are other disturbed Extra's on RRAP. He should feel at home. Jimmie thinks he is the "perfect ham" and can do NO wrong, always "corrects" others who "make all those mistakes." That's been the recurring underlayer in his postings here. N2EY has been wallowing in the slop and slurry of late. But he thinks he still smells sweetly. Of course he does. He nose all. :-) Skunk cabbage by any other name... PCTAs never apologize...except in a blue moon (when their hair mysteriously grows out...) Blue Moon. A delicious micro-brew in the belgian-wheat tradition. Haven't tried it. Not into any beers and don't bother to drink much. I follow the mathematician's rule: "Never drink and derive." :-) Makes cents. |
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#7
November 5th 04, 01:27 AM
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In article ,
PAMNO (N2EY) writes: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (N2EY) writes: In article , Mike Coslo writes: N2EY wrote: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: In article , Robert Casey writes: Well, except to some who wish to turn this newsgroup into a quasi-private Chat Room involving their own desires and preferences..and to have them damn all others for not thinking and feeling as they do. [yourself excluded] That's a pretty good summation of what *you* want from this newsgroup, Len. After all, you're the one telling other people to "shut the hell up".. I've thought that Lenover21 wanted to be the moderator in here. He claims otherwise. It's how he acts that makes the claims ring hollow. Perhaps it's time to repost the "feldwebel" classic... Saw him in a movie. Sittin atop an A-Bomb. Oooop! He jarred it loose. "Dr. Strangelove." :-) No, that's not how it happened in the movie. I wasn't talking about a "movie," Jimmie. Okay, big expert on the USAF and SAC, how do you get from the crew compartment of any B-52 into the bomb bay (and which one)? How does a 180 pound human jar loose a couple- ton Special Weapons (of thermonuclear yield)? And, speaking specifically about "radio," whatinhell is that "Gold Code Receiver" pictured that clicks up little characters in a supposed "digital display?" It was NEVER on any USAF radio inventory list, public or secure-sensitive. [there ARE "gold codes" but those are mathematical, and NOT specifically implemented or implementable as secure cryptographic means] Yeah, like a (mximum) 200 pound male can "jar loose" 4000 pounds of bomb (approximate weight of a special weapons of the time) from its shackles designed to take many g of force. :-) Tsk. These guys go to the movies and think that all the FICTION they see is the TRVTH and nothing but... :-) Ya never saw it, didja? Speak English, not baby talk, Jimmie. I've seen several models of the B-52, even been IN a couple of them. I've also been around Special Weapons, including the air-drop types. I'm also fairly familiar with the past USAF radio communications equipment, at least by sight. Knowing about "oil burner routes," and some performance envelopes of that Big Ugly Fat 'Fornicator' (BUFF) I also know that typical bomb-run airspeed is way too high to let anyone ride on a "shape" (Special Weapons old term) and play rodeo cowboy with their cowboy hat...airspeed is just too high. Does make for a nice anti-war motion picture full of way-overdone satire/sarcasm about the politics of the (then) Vietnam War plus left-overs of the old-time Cold War (then still hot) of the 50s. As a "professional" movie-maker and producer, you should KNOW all that. The relevant question is "Steel chassis or Aluminum chassis?" Depends on the application. What in the world are you gabbling about? "Greenlee punch or Nibbler?" Such relevant questions. From two nonbuilders... Kiss my yes, Jimmie boy. My hometown is where the Greenlee company IS and I've even been in that part of Greenlee and SEEN those punches being made...in 1949. [that part of Greenlee is just two large rooms of punch-making and grinding machinery, very very small compared to the Main Building they are located in] For that matter, I've also seen part of the GC Electronics operations when their wire-stripper line was still a part of it...and known two who worked there (in 1956). [GC is now a merge with Walsco and most of their 'products' are produced by others on an OEM basis] I have a small collection of Greenlee punches which have been gathering rust and dust. About every 5 years or so I may take them out, oil them and rub them with some steel wool. Haven't used them for about 9 years or so. Vacuum tube socket hole cutouts aren't a biggie among those NOT into boatanchors. [last time I used one was to put in a larger chassis-mount electrolytic on a repair and refurbish mini-project, took the 1 1/8" round punch] I suppose next you will demand I show up at Dayton with the "citations" to prove I do things? Harrrr!!!! Actually, it would be. Jimmie say he build with "recycled parts" and his "rig" didn't cost him more than $100. That's true. Of COURSE it's "true." Jimmie SAID so. The "word" of a radio god is solemn honesty, isn't it? Now anyone considering any sort of metal work for radios had better have $ome money since an average aluminum chassis from Bud Industries, LMB-Heeger, or Hammond Manufacturing (good folks in Canada) is going to cost about $30...and that isn't including a bottom cover plate. Metal cabinets are Out Of Sight. Check any catalog, paper or on-line, Allied, Newark, DigiKey, Mouser, even Ocean State Electronics. Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk. Your imagination is limited to what you see in the catalogs of new parts. Not MY imagination, Jimmie. What do you do with those old chassis? Use all the old holes for the "new design?" Make everything "fit" those existing holes? bwahahahahahahahahaha! Some alloys of aluminum are sort of malleable. 2024 is somewhat that way but don't bend it too much. 6061 is NOT. One can't take a chunk of ordinary aluminum and hammer it flat to fill in the holes (using "recycled" i.e., previously-used), then bend/brake it back to some new shape. Why would anyone go through all that? Didn't you? Something about "beating swords into plowshares" but doing the analogue with all those old chassis? That means BUYING chassis somewhere...or snaffling ("swipe") them. You mean steal? I don't do that. Heavens, no! That would be a SIN and you'd still be mumbling Hail Marys... Do you have a guilty conscience, Len? No. I DO have a conscience. Right now its wondering why I'm wasting all this time writing a reply to an unrepentant PCTA-er who is bound and determined to rationalize (one way or the other) that he is perfect ham in every way. At early 1990 prices, that average chassis alluded to before would cost about $25. So, for six chassis in the photograph that would be a total of about $150. Except they weren't bought new out of catalogs. Which drastically reduces the price paid. Prove that. Show your work. The excuse to be given will be that he "bought it at a flea market" or some hamvention for "a very low price." :-) How is that an "excuse", Len? It's the truth, in some cases. In others, chassis, panels and other parts were recycled from other sources. Riiiighhhht. For example, the transmitter section is built in the case from a BC-191/375 tuning unit, with a new panel made from a piece of sheet aluminum. Total cost about $2. Riiiiighhhht. :-) Whatever the story is, it will have the usual embellishments, the brags of greatness, the usual suspects. :-) You mean like the guy who claimed to have handled X million messages per month 24/7 at a military radio station, but didn't bother to mention the 700+ other personnel there at the time? U.S. Army radio station ADA sent 220 thousand TTY messages a month in 1955 in 24/7 operations, radio circuits all over the Pacific on HF. Pacific edition of the Stars & Stripes military newspaper had that item in it ('Stripes' was and is still available to the military public and to dependents). Each and every team supervisor at transmitters was immediately responsible to keep those radio transmitters operating when scheduled. No brag at all. Just a description of duties. I did that as one of the team supervisors. A long time ago. Many others of E-5 and up also did that on other shifts [we were on a 12-day cycle, 3 on each shift and 3 days off as the 4th part of that]. The Photographic Company was not involved in radio communications yet was a part of the 8235th Army Unit then known as the FEC Sig Svc Bn (that's "Far East Command Signal Service Battalion" to you civilians). They worked in downtown Tokyo then in their own large still-and-motion-picture lab...that rivaled that of the LIFE magazine photo lab in NYC. Headquarters Company had the Outside Plant Telephone crews...the ones who put up all the 30 to 70 foot poles that held wire lines and the antennas for both receiving and trans- mitting sites. 'Outside Plant' did not send or receive anything but were needed. Control and Teletype Relay at Chuo Kogyo (outside, near Camp Drake) were another group that did, respectively, the radio and wireline circuit control and the torn-tape teletype relay operations (latter from about 200+ chadless-punch printed tape machines). I'm not counting those specifically doing microwave radio relay ops & maintenance (which I also did) or the "Carrier Equipment" necessary to multiplex several circuits on the same voice channel (wire or radio). "Carrier" operations would later morph into handling the terminal equipment for the DSN-DCS which is now the mainstay for military communications worldwide (primary, there are other routes by other means as secondary). The old "carrier" duties now occupy most of the 78th Bn still at Camp Zama, Japan. Jimmie, I can get even MORE specific about all of that old stuff because: (1). I was there; (2). I have documents to prove it; (3). I have personal photographs as well as Signal Corps photos (with mimeoed ID on the backs, as military standard then) from those days; (4). I have other documents obtained as gifts from a now-retired civilian engineer who was there at the time and stayed with the station complex after the USAF took over in 1963 (he now lives in California); (5). I have been in correspondence, both written and telephone, with another who was there at the same time as I, has been a amateur radio licensee for years; (6). The Pacific Stars & Stripes did check out some of my material and published it (article by staffer Rick Chernitzer who did the interview) on 10 November 2002 (it's in the middle of that Sunday edition, a "double truck" or two-page spread as the publishing folks sometimes call it). No, I don't have a TO&E (Table of Organization and Equipment) which every battalion and up has. A TO&E would itemize all the equipment and who is where in the organization. I don't see much need to get one. I've been in correspondence with 5 others who were there, in that battalion, at the same time I was. We might put one together from memory, but WHY do you need to account for all (approximately) 700? Or the guy who claims to have operated from T5 but cannot recall what bands, modes, radios, or antennas were used? You will have to take that up with "him." Of course, you WILL "correct" him when "he makes errors" because YOU have done all that military and commercial civilian radio communications and "know what it is like," don't you? Of course you do...you READ about it in your various Janes books. You KNOW what it is like to be within flying distance of nastyfolks who Have The Bomb and want to "correct" others about NATO aircraft code names. I'm wondering what YOU do "to serve your country" which is as good of better than actually serving with the military? Come on, TELL US. Show us your heroism and wonderful deeds that makes YOU so superior you can denigrate those of us who DID serve in the military. |
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November 5th 04, 12:02 PM
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#9
November 5th 04, 12:09 PM
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Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 11/5/2004 6:02 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: I also know that typical bomb-run airspeed is way too high to let anyone ride on a "shape" (Special Weapons old term) and play rodeo cowboy with their cowboy hat...airspeed is just too high. Tell it to Kubrick. That's what I love about Sir Scumbag of Lanark...Always making snide insinuations about how no one else but he seems to have a sense of humor...Then clearly demonstrates he ahs neither humor OR imagination. Steve, K4YZ |
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#10
November 6th 04, 05:12 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS.... From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 11/5/2004 6:02 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: I also know that typical bomb-run airspeed is way too high to let anyone ride on a "shape" (Special Weapons old term) and play rodeo cowboy with their cowboy hat...airspeed is just too high. Tell it to Kubrick. That's what I love about Sir Scumbag of Lanark...Always making snide insinuations about how no one else but he seems to have a sense of humor...Then clearly demonstrates he ahs neither humor OR imagination. Steve, K4YZ Dats one. |
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