Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:
to:

Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!
Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from you?

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a creep
you really are, Hans.

Steve, K4YZ

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.


Aw, gee, Steve, you make a nice whining tear-jerking lament out of it,
but you conveniently forgot the first part of the episode where you
"benignly" accused me of plagiarism. Now you cry out in dismayed
anguish about "cheap shots" when your accusation spirals down in flames.
Andersoneque misdirection, puffery, and posturing at its finest!

Sunuvagun!!!

36, de Hans, K0HB

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:
to:

Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

Tsk. You are as "benign" as a spreading cancer cell...

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...gunnery nurse made it all a prime-time project
to "apologize" by calling another names, charging plagiarism,
and generally stating unproven falsehoods about the story
content and its writer.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie lit the matches, burned her little fingers, then
yells and yells "It's not MY fault!" :-)

Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from you?

So...nursie still hasn't found the claimed "original story that is
supposed to be plagiarized by Hans?

Too bad. It might have...for the first time in here...showed some
truth about all those unfounded charges and epithets you level at
others. It didn't. So far, all it has shown is your unstable emotional
state and inability to get along with others in a newsgroup.

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a creep
you really are, Hans.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's idea of an "apology." :-)

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:
to:

Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]

Why, yes, it does, By his very own, very odd definitions.

But remember that there are two sets of rules in play on RRAP.

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

Tsk. You are as "benign" as a spreading cancer cell...

Malignant?

Oops! Caught me practicing medicine w/o licensure again. Hi!

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...gunnery nurse made it all a prime-time project
to "apologize" by calling another names, charging plagiarism,
and generally stating unproven falsehoods about the story
content and its writer.

Just like all of his other charges: without basis. A Robeson
trademark.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie lit the matches, burned her little fingers, then
yells and yells "It's not MY fault!" :-)

Nothing is Steve's fault.

Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from you?

So...nursie still hasn't found the claimed "original story that is
supposed to be plagiarized by Hans?

He's still waiting for an ARRL Staffer to do his legwork for him.
You'd think such a devout ARRL beleiver would have his own copies of
QST, or the searchable CD-ROMs. Maybe his mentor can help him out and
quit wasting my dues money in the process.

Good thing I paid my dues in full so that they could be used to fund
unnecessary searches for crank hams. Hi, hi!

Wonder how those searches through World Radio, the defunct "Ham Radio"
magazine, and Nuts&Volts is coming along?

Leave no stone unturned in the search to make Hans a liar and a creep.

Too bad. It might have...for the first time in here...showed some
truth about all those unfounded charges and epithets you level at
others. It didn't.

I believe it did. It showed us that there is a long, long list of
unfounded charges and epithets that Steve has leveled at others, and
the list grows longer each day.

So far, all it has shown is your unstable emotional
state and inability to get along with others in a newsgroup.

That was observable long, long ago. He merely reinforces that image
daily.

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a creep
you really are, Hans.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's idea of an "apology." :-)

Indeed. Heartfelt sorrow.

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.

Because there are more than one inside Steve's shell. One rants and
raves, the other apologizes on the rarest of ocassions. It only
appears inconsistent to us outside of that shell.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



bb

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:
to:

Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]

Why, yes, it does, By his very own, very odd definitions.

"Documented Liar and Coward!" :-)

Tsk. He points his finger and forgets the other four fingers are
pointing right back at him! :-)

But remember that there are two sets of rules in play on RRAP.

I know. I'm just trying to figure out which of his personalities is
saying what. I find it difficult to keep track of them.

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

Tsk. You are as "benign" as a spreading cancer cell...

Malignant?

Highly so.

Oops! Caught me practicing medicine w/o licensure again. Hi!

Tsk on all radio amateurs who aren't "licensed" as medical
experts... :-)

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...gunnery nurse made it all a prime-time project
to "apologize" by calling another names, charging plagiarism,
and generally stating unproven falsehoods about the story
content and its writer.

Just like all of his other charges: without basis. A Robeson
trademark.

I'd say he is industrious. He is busy manufacturing charges of a
remarkable variety.

Problem is that his QC isn't worth snit. Bad products produced.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a
flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie lit the matches, burned her little fingers, then
yells and yells "It's not MY fault!" :-)

Nothing is Steve's fault.

True. He invents all kinds of "charges" then blames all others for
them! :-)

One of the strongest case syndromes of denial I've heard about.

That syndrome seems rampant among the code-tested extras in
here...along with the "599" signal reports. :-)

Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from
you?

So...nursie still hasn't found the claimed "original story that is
supposed to be plagiarized by Hans?

He's still waiting for an ARRL Staffer to do his legwork for him.
You'd think such a devout ARRL beleiver would have his own copies of
QST, or the searchable CD-ROMs. Maybe his mentor can help him out and
quit wasting my dues money in the process.

Really? RoboHam has a "mentor?"

Oh, yes...Jimmie Who slapping on his wrist with a damp hankie
when Yell-Yell gets too far out of line. Maybe once a week in
here.

Good thing I paid my dues in full so that they could be used to fund
unnecessary searches for crank hams. Hi, hi!

Wonder how those searches through World Radio, the defunct "Ham Radio"
magazine, and Nuts&Volts is coming along?

Tsk. "Steve and da boys" could have simply searched Google.
Hans has written the same story in this newsgroup before. Still
a good tale and good take on the Raddio Kopps with their big,
shiny shields in little wallets used to reinforce their holier-than-
everybody attitudes. :-)

Leave no stone unturned in the search to make Hans a liar and a creep.

Tsk. Stevie done shot off his mouth/keyboard again, doesn't
have the full "licensure" to cure the wounds of his own causing.

Too bad. It might have...for the first time in here...showed some
truth about all those unfounded charges and epithets you level at
others. It didn't.

I believe it did. It showed us that there is a long, long list of
unfounded charges and epithets that Steve has leveled at others, and
the list grows longer each day.

THAT was the truth...another in a long, long list of unfounded
charges and epithets, still growing. :-)

So far, all it has shown is your unstable emotional
state and inability to get along with others in a newsgroup.

That was observable long, long ago. He merely reinforces that image
daily.

That's ALSO the truth. Tsk.

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a
creep
you really are, Hans.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's idea of an "apology." :-)

Indeed. Heartfelt sorrow.

Tsk. Stebie tried to make a silk purse out of a sorrow's rear.

He no got "licensure" for tailoring, was bad, bad manufactured
"charge."

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.

Because there are more than one inside Steve's shell. One rants and
raves, the other apologizes on the rarest of ocassions. It only
appears inconsistent to us outside of that shell.

I wouldn't dare venture inside that "shell." I'd get shell-shocked.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



bb

Welp, the other (self-righteous) "role models for ham radio" are
strangely silent on any sort of criticism. They must condone his
actions of damning anyone who is against his opinions. Doesn't
say much for those individuals...sure as hell doesn't present a
good image of U.S. amateur radio to the rest of the country and
neighbors.

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:
to:

Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]

Why, yes, it does, By his very own, very odd definitions.

"Documented Liar and Coward!" :-)

Tsk. He points his finger and forgets the other four fingers are
pointing right back at him! :-)

But remember that there are two sets of rules in play on RRAP.

I know. I'm just trying to figure out which of his personalities is
saying what. I find it difficult to keep track of them.

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

Tsk. You are as "benign" as a spreading cancer cell...

Malignant?

Highly so.

Oops! Caught me practicing medicine w/o licensure again. Hi!

Tsk on all radio amateurs who aren't "licensed" as medical
experts... :-)

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...gunnery nurse made it all a prime-time project
to "apologize" by calling another names, charging plagiarism,
and generally stating unproven falsehoods about the story
content and its writer.

Just like all of his other charges: without basis. A Robeson
trademark.

I'd say he is industrious. He is busy manufacturing charges of a
remarkable variety.

Problem is that his QC isn't worth snit. Bad products produced.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a
flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie lit the matches, burned her little fingers, then
yells and yells "It's not MY fault!" :-)

Nothing is Steve's fault.

True. He invents all kinds of "charges" then blames all others for
them! :-)

One of the strongest case syndromes of denial I've heard about.

That syndrome seems rampant among the code-tested extras in
here...along with the "599" signal reports. :-)

Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from
you?

So...nursie still hasn't found the claimed "original story that is
supposed to be plagiarized by Hans?

He's still waiting for an ARRL Staffer to do his legwork for him.
You'd think such a devout ARRL beleiver would have his own copies of
QST, or the searchable CD-ROMs. Maybe his mentor can help him out and
quit wasting my dues money in the process.

Really? RoboHam has a "mentor?"

Oh, yes...Jimmie Who slapping on his wrist with a damp hankie
when Yell-Yell gets too far out of line. Maybe once a week in
here.

Good thing I paid my dues in full so that they could be used to fund
unnecessary searches for crank hams. Hi, hi!

Wonder how those searches through World Radio, the defunct "Ham Radio"
magazine, and Nuts&Volts is coming along?

Tsk. "Steve and da boys" could have simply searched Google.
Hans has written the same story in this newsgroup before. Still
a good tale and good take on the Raddio Kopps with their big,
shiny shields in little wallets used to reinforce their holier-than-
everybody attitudes. :-)

Leave no stone unturned in the search to make Hans a liar and a creep.

Tsk. Stevie done shot off his mouth/keyboard again, doesn't
have the full "licensure" to cure the wounds of his own causing.

Too bad. It might have...for the first time in here...showed some
truth about all those unfounded charges and epithets you level at
others. It didn't.

I believe it did. It showed us that there is a long, long list of
unfounded charges and epithets that Steve has leveled at others, and
the list grows longer each day.

THAT was the truth...another in a long, long list of unfounded
charges and epithets, still growing. :-)

So far, all it has shown is your unstable emotional
state and inability to get along with others in a newsgroup.

That was observable long, long ago. He merely reinforces that image
daily.

That's ALSO the truth. Tsk.

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a
creep
you really are, Hans.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's idea of an "apology." :-)

Indeed. Heartfelt sorrow.

Tsk. Stebie tried to make a silk purse out of a sorrow's rear.

He no got "licensure" for tailoring, was bad, bad manufactured
"charge."

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.

Because there are more than one inside Steve's shell. One rants and
raves, the other apologizes on the rarest of ocassions. It only
appears inconsistent to us outside of that shell.

I wouldn't dare venture inside that "shell." I'd get shell-shocked.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



bb

Welp, the other (self-righteous) "role models for ham radio" are
strangely silent on any sort of criticism. They must condone his
actions of damning anyone who is against his opinions. Doesn't
say much for those individuals...sure as hell doesn't present a
good image of U.S. amateur radio to the rest of the country and
neighbors.




It amazes me each and every day that I witness these acts. I should
be used to it by now.

In article ,
(William) writes:

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a
mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.

Because there are more than one inside Steve's shell. One rants and
raves, the other apologizes on the rarest of ocassions. It only
appears inconsistent to us outside of that shell.

I wouldn't dare venture inside that "shell." I'd get shell-shocked.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



bb

Welp, the other (self-righteous) "role models for ham radio" are
strangely silent on any sort of criticism. They must condone his
actions of damning anyone who is against his opinions. Doesn't
say much for those individuals...sure as hell doesn't present a
good image of U.S. amateur radio to the rest of the country and
neighbors.



It amazes me each and every day that I witness these acts. I should
be used to it by now.

I expect it. Gunnery nurse is too deep in his self-deception to let go.

It will only get worse. He thinks the universe is against him or
something. Paranoia might start to peak soon.

shrug

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:
to:

Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]

Why, yes, it does, By his very own, very odd definitions.

"Documented Liar and Coward!"

Glad you agree, Lennie, but then YOU "trained" him.

Tsk. He points his finger and forgets the other four fingers are
pointing right back at him!

You obviously use one finger to "point", Lennie.

In most countries of the world that's considered very rude...Not
that YOU have a problem with being rude.

I personally use an open hand for emphasis. Like most CAREER
military veterans do...

But remember that there are two sets of rules in play on RRAP.

Three...Lennie's, Brain's, and the rest of us.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ