William wrote:




Wow! You guys sure take some kind of vector off of a left turn. Talk
about off off topic! Ooop! Not allowed to say PCTA are off topic.
My bad. So sorry. May a thousand "camel humpers" (?is that what
Steve called them?) move into my nice neighborhood.

Test prove that nine out of ten men who tried Camels, went back to women.

Mike Coslo wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ia_us_election

Someone said voting for Nader was helping Bush. So if that will help
Bush win, then I'm voting for Nader.

Subject: How ya gonna vote Comrade?
From: (William)
Date: 10/31/2004 9:13 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: How ya gonna vote Comrade?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/31/2004 8:49 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: k.net


"William" wrote


I blame the problems of the ARS on the following, .......



Problems? What problems, Brian? I've been a ham for 46 years and
amateur radio just keeps getting better and better! There are more hams
than ever, we have more frequencies than ever, we have more ways to
operate then ever, the regulations are less restrictive than they've
been since the 1920's, there are more new technologies to explore than
ever, and the outlook is for even more of the same.

Problems? Hardly!

There's always "problems" when all you're looking for is trouble.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Especially when you go shooting off your mouth, trouble is sure to follow.

You said so yourself.

You're absolutely right.

I said it about you.

It's still true. You're still a liar.

Steve, K4YZ

William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article k.net, "KØHB"
writes:

"William" wrote

I blame the problems of the ARS on the following, .......

Problems? What problems, Brian? I've been a ham for 46 years and
amateur radio just keeps getting better and better!

Y'know, you've got a point there, Hans!

There are more hams
than ever, we have more frequencies than ever, we have more ways to
operate then ever, the regulations are less restrictive than they've
been since the 1920's, there are more new technologies to explore than
ever, and the outlook is for even more of the same.

All true! *And*, we still retain almost all of what we had in the past. If
someone wants to use, say, 1950s equipment, they can do so in almost all cases.
In fact, that's true all the way back to about the 1920s.

The rest of the world is slowly getting 40 meters doubled..

Problems? Hardly!

A couple of things like BPL, sure, but not the end of the world.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I recall you claiming that we needed more not fewer license classes,
and 13 and 20 wpm code exams.

And BPL is such a minor thing...

I must have got it wrong again. Hi!

You must have, "William". There is serious talk of an entry level
license. That'd be one more than we have now. Getting rid of the
Novice license was a serious mistake. What was needed was a revision of
Novice privileges.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article k.net, "KØHB"
writes:

"William" wrote

I blame the problems of the ARS on the following, .......

Problems? What problems, Brian? I've been a ham for 46 years and
amateur radio just keeps getting better and better!

Y'know, you've got a point there, Hans!

There are more hams
than ever, we have more frequencies than ever, we have more ways to
operate then ever, the regulations are less restrictive than they've
been since the 1920's, there are more new technologies to explore than
ever, and the outlook is for even more of the same.

All true! *And*, we still retain almost all of what we had in the past. If
someone wants to use, say, 1950s equipment, they can do so in almost all cases.
In fact, that's true all the way back to about the 1920s.

The rest of the world is slowly getting 40 meters doubled..

Problems? Hardly!

A couple of things like BPL, sure, but not the end of the world.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I recall you claiming that we needed more not fewer license classes,
and 13 and 20 wpm code exams.

And BPL is such a minor thing...

I must have got it wrong again. Hi!

You must have, "William". There is serious talk of an entry level
license. That'd be one more than we have now.

Hmmm? And 1 less than we had when he made his complaint.

Getting rid of the
Novice license was a serious mistake. What was needed was a revision of
Novice privileges.

Dave K8MN

And it appears that even you have a complaint wrt the amateur service.
My goodness, just after Jim says everything is rosey!

Jim tries to take an opposite position from me, just because it was me
who said it. Typical bad attitude Extra.

Anyway Dave, I agree with you (and Hans) that we need a legitimate
entry level license. bb

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article k.net, "KØHB"
writes:

"William" wrote

I blame the problems of the ARS on the following, .......

Problems? What problems, Brian? I've been a ham for 46 years and
amateur radio just keeps getting better and better!

Y'know, you've got a point there, Hans!

There are more hams
than ever, we have more frequencies than ever, we have more ways to
operate then ever, the regulations are less restrictive than they've
been since the 1920's, there are more new technologies to explore than
ever, and the outlook is for even more of the same.

All true! *And*, we still retain almost all of what we had in the past. If
someone wants to use, say, 1950s equipment, they can do so in almost all cases.
In fact, that's true all the way back to about the 1920s.

The rest of the world is slowly getting 40 meters doubled..

Problems? Hardly!

A couple of things like BPL, sure, but not the end of the world.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I recall you claiming that we needed more not fewer license classes,
and 13 and 20 wpm code exams.

And BPL is such a minor thing...

I must have got it wrong again. Hi!

You must have, "William". There is serious talk of an entry level
license. That'd be one more than we have now.

Hmmm? And 1 less than we had when he made his complaint.

Hmmmm...a trend in the direction of Jim's idea.

Getting rid of the
Novice license was a serious mistake. What was needed was a revision of
Novice privileges.

And it appears that even you have a complaint wrt the amateur service.
My goodness, just after Jim says everything is rosey!

....and it appears that the "William"-mobile can only go to the left or
right at ninety degree angles. That makes taking life's curves really
tough. Maybe you thought Jim and I carefully aligned our positions
before posting. We do have a really good system. Jim posts what he
believes and I post what I believe.

Jim tries to take an opposite position from me, just because it was me
who said it.

Is that what you really believe?

Typical bad attitude Extra.

Bad attitude Extra=anyone who doesn't go along with you.

I don't find you typical of General Class licensees. Would you care to
put forth any additional sweeping generalities?

Anyway Dave, I agree with you (and Hans) that we need a legitimate
entry level license. bb

Congrats on partial enlightenment.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article k.net, "KØHB"
writes:

"William" wrote

I blame the problems of the ARS on the following, .......

Problems? What problems, Brian? I've been a ham for 46 years and
amateur radio just keeps getting better and better!

Y'know, you've got a point there, Hans!

There are more hams
than ever, we have more frequencies than ever, we have more ways to
operate then ever, the regulations are less restrictive than they've
been since the 1920's, there are more new technologies to explore than
ever, and the outlook is for even more of the same.

All true! *And*, we still retain almost all of what we had in the past. If
someone wants to use, say, 1950s equipment, they can do so in almost all cases.
In fact, that's true all the way back to about the 1920s.

The rest of the world is slowly getting 40 meters doubled..

Problems? Hardly!

A couple of things like BPL, sure, but not the end of the world.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I recall you claiming that we needed more not fewer license classes,
and 13 and 20 wpm code exams.

When did I claim such things were "needed"?

I still think those things are good ideas. But the chances of FCC
actually creating them are virtually nonexistent, so I've put my
efforts into things that actually have a chance of becoming reality.

And BPL is such a minor thing...

Where did I say it was minor?

What have *you* done to oppose BPL?

I must have got it wrong again. Hi!

Clearly.

You must have, "William". There is serious talk of an entry level
license. That'd be one more than we have now. Getting rid of the
Novice license was a serious mistake. What was needed was a revision of
Novice privileges.

Perhaps I should repost my "Chinese menu" idea. Or the more recent
three-class system that I posted here.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article k.net, "KØHB"
writes:

"William" wrote

I blame the problems of the ARS on the following, .......

Problems? What problems, Brian? I've been a ham for 46 years and
amateur radio just keeps getting better and better!

Y'know, you've got a point there, Hans!

There are more hams
than ever, we have more frequencies than ever, we have more ways to
operate then ever, the regulations are less restrictive than they've
been since the 1920's, there are more new technologies to explore than
ever, and the outlook is for even more of the same.

All true! *And*, we still retain almost all of what we had in the past. If
someone wants to use, say, 1950s equipment, they can do so in almost all cases.
In fact, that's true all the way back to about the 1920s.

The rest of the world is slowly getting 40 meters doubled..

Problems? Hardly!

A couple of things like BPL, sure, but not the end of the world.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I recall you claiming that we needed more not fewer license classes,
and 13 and 20 wpm code exams.

And BPL is such a minor thing...

I must have got it wrong again. Hi!

You must have, "William". There is serious talk of an entry level
license. That'd be one more than we have now.

Hmmm? And 1 less than we had when he made his complaint.

Hmmmm...a trend in the direction of Jim's idea.

Odd. Instead of 1 more, we see one less. And you see a trend in the
direction of Jim's idea. Perhaps if you called it a Contra-trend, I
could buy into that idea.

Getting rid of the
Novice license was a serious mistake. What was needed was a revision of
Novice privileges.

And it appears that even you have a complaint wrt the amateur service.
My goodness, just after Jim says everything is rosey!

...and it appears that the "William"-mobile can only go to the left or
right at ninety degree angles.

Hmmm? I see Jim taking those 90 degree turns without problem. One
day the amateur service needs more license classes, the next day there
are no complaints and everything is rosey. One day we need higher
speed morse code exams, the next day a morse code exam is a barrier to
morse code use. Hi, hi!

I'm consistent in my position with respect to amateur radio policy,
and you say I make 90 degree turns. More hi, hi's.

That makes taking life's curves really
tough. Maybe you thought Jim and I carefully aligned our positions
before posting. We do have a really good system. Jim posts what he
believes and I post what I believe.

There goes the notion that Jim faxes you guys a white paper or a
talking points paper each day.

Jim tries to take an opposite position from me, just because it was me
who said it.

Is that what you really believe?

What -am- I to believe?

Typical bad attitude Extra.

Bad attitude Extra=anyone who doesn't go along with you.

Nope.

I don't find you typical of General Class licensees. Would you care to
put forth any additional sweeping generalities?

Nor do I find you typical of Extra Class licensees.

Anyway Dave, I agree with you (and Hans) that we need a legitimate
entry level license. bb

Congrats on partial enlightenment.

Dave K8MN

No enlightenment. It was preposterous in 1991 when the FCC made a
1,500 watt license "entry level."

I'm consistent in my position with respect to amateur radio policy.