Steve Robeson K4YZ wrote:
Subject: Mode/Band Use in 1961
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 12/20/2004 4:01 PM Central Standard Time
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:



Len Over 21 wrote:



In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


When did Coslo ever serve in ANY military?

Coslo has served his country for a lot longer than Lenover21 has then.

In what way? :-)

Ahh, you told me that it was the last time you were going to ask in your
last post


IN WHAT WAY???


Oooooooooooooooooohhhh...Mike got Lennie MAD! ! ! !

It does appear that way, Steve.

But he did post:

*** Now, one last time, how do you "serve" your country in those "other
*** ways" you claim? Neither you nor the Nun of the Above have answered
*** that question challenge on your respective claims...


Lennie making D E M A N D S ! ! ! !

Of course we ASK Lennie for info, and we get reams and reams of rants and
ramblings.


You are trying to be clever and obfuscate with a non-answer.

That only proves you have NO answer at all.

I give no answer.


Lennie is still seething over my refusal to re-post my USMC MOS's. Gave
them to him twice...He still can't seem to wade his way through old posts and
e-mail to dig them out.




The U.S. Army Signal Corps ran the land force military telegraphy
"service" plus a lot of other communications tasks in the Army. I was
in the Signal Corps, United States Army.

Yeah, like I said....

Ah, but you did NOT "say" anything remotely similar. Tsk.

What I said was about you relating your stories to us...

I just relate factual history, uncolored by morsemanship bias
from the BoD at Newington.


"Factual history" like lumping his rear-area radio mechanic Army tour in
with the sacrifices of Soldiers who were KIA three years before Lennie was even
inducted.

Of course if anyone EXCEPT Lennie relates a tale of an event more than 48
hours old, Lennie will launch right back into another of his "standards of the
1930's" rants.


I don't think you "enjoy" them at all, but are rather looking for an
opportunity to "stick" any NCTA.

Incorrect.


My OPINION is my OPINION. You cannot call it "incorrect" or
"correct."

My opinion of your opinion is that your opinion is incorrect as far as
my enjoyment of your stories of your experience.


My "enjoyment" came several years ago when Lennie was trying to play
one-upmanship over his "career"...He screwed up and dropped the name of a
military facility that I had also served at. I spoke with persons I knew there
who would have been in a place and circumstance to know Lennie. He did. He
was less than complimentary of Lennie, Lennie's skills and knowledge. That
made it all worth it!


Not in THIS venue which is supposedly about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY,
not world socio-politics as some want it.

Sigh, there hasn't been much talk in here about Morse lately, which is
just fine with me. You really should start a moderated group, in which
all participants *have* to talk about Morse code.


THIS NEWSGROUP was BEGUN to take the morse code test
controversy off of rec.radio.amateur.misc.


Ooooooppppssssss......There Lennie goes with one of his "in the past"
rantings.

Of course Lennie will tell us that just because somethig "was" one way
decades ago, it is no basis for doing "it" that way in the present...and in
that narrow regard he is right.

The PROBLEM is, of course, that Lennie does NOT follow his own rhetoric.

Case in point:


You are NOT, nor ever were, any "moderator" in here. This
newsgroup is an UNmoderated one and open to anyone with
access to the Internet.


Here wwe have Lennie trying to be the moderator that he claims the
newsgroup does NOT have.


YOU do NOT "own" anything in here just by existing here, despite
your apparent territorial imperative feelings.


Funny how NO ONE ever claims ANY "territorial imperitive feelings" EXCEPT
Lennie...the foregoing attempt to redirect you on what HE (Lennie) perceives
the SOLE topic of this NG is supposed to be.

Maybe he meant tutorial imperitive?

Who knows, but one thing I have found to be true over the years is that
if a person has certain goals and wants to hide their motives, the fist
step is to accuse others of having those same goals.

I really do think he would be happy to have his own Morse code oriented
newsgroup with him as the moderator. Maybe.


Suffice it to say that I do, and that I only mention it since you find
it important that I was not a member of the uniformed services. It is
your gauge, not mine.

So...you CANNOT answer. Because you have NONE?

Yeah, that's right, I have none, that's the ticket! Believe that if you

wish. 8^)

Still a NON-answer. Are you afraid of the truth?


Oh, there's someone here who's afraid of the truth, alright, and it's
Leonard H Anderson!


That would be an idiotic thing to lie about.


It is done all the time by the "Rambo-wannabees." In some cases by
"militia" people going out and playing sojer in da woods and posturing
about their "warriorhood." Ptui.


The ONLY person herein "posturing" about "warriorhood" is Lennie...Case in
point the hundreds of posts signed with his former Army service number.


Merry Christmas and good will to all men...

Enjoy the holidays Len.


Thank you, I always do.

However, no bets on the "traditional" hypocritical posting to come
before Christmas where the Avenging Angle borrows all the trite
phrases to "wish everyone a happy holiday"...even to his "opponents"
who he calls all kinds of names all the other days of the year.


Of course Lennie has never even once, even before the flame war
completely ignited, acknowledged a single holiday or "event" greeting. That's
because Lennie is a creep.


So...what mode/band did Coslo use in 1961? :-)


I was a wee lad of 7 in 1961. I did however get a citizens band
walkie-talkie in either 1964 or 1965, followed by a Lafayette HE20C two
years later. I was too young to have a license, so my parents got one.
KBM-8780 was the callsign.


KHG-8459. Later followed by KEQ-1570, but by then I was a Commission
licensee in my own right with both a station AND operator permit.

Lennie doesn't hold ANY station license in ANY radio service.

Pity the "radio professional" whose sole access to hobby radio is
dependent upon Part's 15 and 95.

Its a tangled web for sure.

Here's to a happy and fun holiday season to you and the rest of the
Robeson family.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Subject: Mode/Band Use in 1961
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 12/20/2004 8:56 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Steve Robeson K4YZ wrote:
Subject: Mode/Band Use in 1961
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 12/20/2004 4:01 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

IN WHAT WAY???

Oooooooooooooooooohhhh...Mike got Lennie MAD! ! ! !

It does appear that way, Steve.

But he did post:

*** Now, one last time, how do you "serve" your country in those "other
*** ways" you claim? Neither you nor the Nun of the Above have answered
*** that question challenge on your respective claims...

Lennie has a twisted sense of what "service" means.

In his mind, one brief tour in the Army was all the "service" one need do.
The facts are that there are THOUSANDS of ways one may be of "service" to this
Nation, not all of which include donning the uniform of the Armed Forces.
Indeed, not every person should or could be a capable member of the Armed
Forces, yet they can "serve" in any of those other capacities in grand style.

Funny how NO ONE ever claims ANY "territorial imperitive feelings"
EXCEPT
Lennie...the foregoing attempt to redirect you on what HE (Lennie)
perceives
the SOLE topic of this NG is supposed to be.

Maybe he meant tutorial imperitive?

Who knows, but one thing I have found to be true over the years is that

if a person has certain goals and wants to hide their motives, the fist
step is to accuse others of having those same goals.

I really do think he would be happy to have his own Morse code oriented

newsgroup with him as the moderator. Maybe.

Of course he would! And the rules would be simple...First, any discusson
or depiction of persons who use, favor the use of or support the use of Morse
Code MUST be depicted as knuckle dragging luddites.

Secondly, anyone with less than 14 years of night school to accomplish
what any other person can accomplish in a 2 year community college will be
dismissed as wannabes, only peripherally interested in radio communication.

And lastly, anyone who uses the word "service" in ANY capacity other than
that of a one-term Army radio mechanic has NO idea of what they are talking
about, and such "talk" is merely the "rantings of a person wrapped in patriotic
bunting"...

THAT way, EVERY "discussion" would validate his every word as the ONLY
word in radio communication, thereby making him the only "authority" in radio
communication...Kinda the way he already perceives himself but without the
adulation he thinks he so richly deserves.

Pity the "radio professional" whose sole access to hobby radio is
dependent upon Part's 15 and 95.

Its a tangled web for sure.

Actually, I was kinda pitying the old guy for being so narrow minded and
not having the initiative and motivation to accomplish what he might otherwise
be so capable of doing.

Here's to a happy and fun holiday season to you and the rest of the
Robeson family.

And to You and Yours, Sir, a very safe and fulfilling holiday!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Steve says, """Lennie has a twisted sense of what "service" means."""

I'm not so sure about that.

"""In his mind, one brief tour in the Army was all the "service" one
need do."""

To be fair, it is far, far, far more than what the vast majority give.
They don't mind taking Pell Grants, guaranteed student loans, etc, and
complaining about the rising costs of education, but to put someone
else before themselves, "Forget it!" Then want their degree, their
401k, and to hell with anyone else or delaying their education for 4
years.

I actually heard an NPR reporter laugh yesterday when he opened a story
about Rumsfeld and the problem the Army is having with recruiting.
Your tax dollars at work.

"""The facts are that there are THOUSANDS of ways one may be of
"service" to this
Nation, not all of which include donning the uniform of the Armed
Forces.
Indeed, not every person should or could be a capable member of the
Armed
Forces, yet they can "serve" in any of those other capacities in grand
style."""

That's debatable. And don't get me started on the "Americorps"
program.

bb wrote:

Steve says, """Lennie has a twisted sense of what "service" means."""

I'm not so sure about that.

"""In his mind, one brief tour in the Army was all the "service" one
need do."""

To be fair, it is far, far, far more than what the vast majority give.
They don't mind taking Pell Grants, guaranteed student loans, etc, and
complaining about the rising costs of education, but to put someone
else before themselves, "Forget it!" Then want their degree, their
401k, and to hell with anyone else or delaying their education for 4
years.


Well, I worked for 2 years at a defense contractor on
flight simulators for training air force pilots after
graduating college. Does that count?.....

Bob, sounds like a huge sacrifice having to put up with AF pilots.

bb wrote:
Bob, sounds like a huge sacrifice having to put up with AF pilots.


I didn't have to make *that* sacrifice. So I guess I
got off with easy duty..... Other people dealt with
the pilots, I just designed the equipment.

:-)

Subject: Mode/Band Use in 1961
From: robert casey
Date: 12/21/2004 3:28 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

bb wrote:

Steve says, """Lennie has a twisted sense of what "service" means."""

I'm not so sure about that.

"""In his mind, one brief tour in the Army was all the "service" one
need do."""

To be fair, it is far, far, far more than what the vast majority give.
They don't mind taking Pell Grants, guaranteed student loans, etc, and
complaining about the rising costs of education, but to put someone
else before themselves, "Forget it!" Then want their degree, their
401k, and to hell with anyone else or delaying their education for 4
years.


Well, I worked for 2 years at a defense contractor on
flight simulators for training air force pilots after
graduating college. Does that count?.....

I say it does!

73

Steve, K4YZ