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"Todd Daugherty" wrote in message
... Where in the FCC rules and regulations does it state that it has to be a news bulletin? I think that's where Amateurs have a misunderstanding. The term in the FCC rules and regulations state: 97.3(a)(25) Information bulletin. A message directed only to amateur operators consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur service. And you must also look at 97.111(b)(6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins; Let look at the bottom one first. "Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins" now we all know what transmission means at lease I hope you all do so lets look at the ending section of that part "disseminate information bulletins". Disseminate according to The American Heritage Dictionary disseminate means to spread or to be spread. Information according to the same dictionary means "Knowledge from study or experience. (2)Knowledge of an event or situation; Intelligence. (3) A collection of facts or data (4) Informing or being informed; communication of Knowledge. Lastly a bulletin is according to American Heritage Dictonary is (1) A printed or broadcast statement on a matter of public interest (2) A periodical, esp. one published by an organization or society So with all we can state that 97.111(b)(6) means in layman term A radio siganal necessary to spread knowledge as a statement on matters of amateur interest something on that lines no where in the FCC rules and regulations does it state it has to be NEWS only that it has to be information consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur service. After reading stuff off of not only this newsgroup but other amateur message boards I understand that many amateur's think that a information bulletin is a news bulletin but again nowhere in the FCC rules does it state that. Todd N9OGL http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/ "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "Todd Daugherty" wrote in message ... Don't know what frequency it will be but i'll be there.I'll rebroadcast my first three talk shows as well as a new one entitled: Do we really need the ARRL? and the truth of Pirate Radio. Since these are opinions pieces (like talk radio) rather than amateur specific news bulletins, I would say they are on the wrong side of the line as far as the the FCC rules go. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Todd, I'd be careful if I were you. You must remember that even if you are "technically" correct, If and whan they decide to cast their light upon you, it's all open to interpretation. In the final analysis, their interpretation will be the only one that counts. You might want to tread a tad more carefully. I hold no opinion as to the correctness of your activities. I just believe that you're playing *against* the home team and there's lotsa cork in those bats. -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384 QRP ARCI #11782 |
Where in the FCC rules and regulations does it state that it has to be a
news bulletin? I think that's where Amateurs have a misunderstanding. The term in the FCC rules and regulations state: 97.3(a)(25) Information bulletin. A message directed only to amateur operators consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur service. And you must also look at 97.111(b)(6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins; Let look at the bottom one first. "Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins" now we all know what transmission means at lease I hope you all do so lets look at the ending section of that part "disseminate information bulletins". Disseminate according to The American Heritage Dictionary disseminate means to spread or to be spread. Information according to the same dictionary means "Knowledge from study or experience. (2)Knowledge of an event or situation; Intelligence. (3) A collection of facts or data (4) Informing or being informed; communication of Knowledge. Lastly a bulletin is according to American Heritage Dictonary is (1) A printed or broadcast statement on a matter of public interest (2) A periodical, esp. one published by an organization or society So with all we can state that 97.111(b)(6) means in layman term A radio siganal necessary to spread knowledge as a statement on matters of amateur interest something on that lines no where in the FCC rules and regulations does it state it has to be NEWS only that it has to be information consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur service. After reading stuff off of not only this newsgroup but other amateur message boards I understand that many amateur's think that a information bulletin is a news bulletin but again nowhere in the FCC rules does it state that. Todd N9OGL http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/ "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "Todd Daugherty" wrote in message ... Don't know what frequency it will be but i'll be there.I'll rebroadcast my first three talk shows as well as a new one entitled: Do we really need the ARRL? and the truth of Pirate Radio. Since these are opinions pieces (like talk radio) rather than amateur specific news bulletins, I would say they are on the wrong side of the line as far as the the FCC rules go. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 05:49:21 -0600, Todd Daugherty wrote:
You know the easiest way of solving this problem which I'm working on, is a petition for rulemaking to clarify what a Information bulletin is. That would solve the problem once and for all. A Petition for Rulemaking is not the proper way to get this ruling. It would be dismissed out of hand. Strike One. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane |
"Todd Daugherty" wrote in message ... Where in the FCC rules and regulations does it state that it has to be a news bulletin? I think that's where Amateurs have a misunderstanding. The term in the FCC rules and regulations state: 97.3(a)(25) Information bulletin. A message directed only to amateur operators consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur service. And you must also look at 97.111(b)(6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins; Let look at the bottom one first. "Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins" now we all know what transmission means at lease I hope you all do so lets look at the ending section of that part "disseminate information bulletins". Disseminate according to The American Heritage Dictionary disseminate means to spread or to be spread. Information according to the same dictionary means "Knowledge from study or experience. (2)Knowledge of an event or situation; Intelligence. (3) A collection of facts or data (4) Informing or being informed; communication of Knowledge. Lastly a bulletin is according to American Heritage Dictonary is (1) A printed or broadcast statement on a matter of public interest (2) A periodical, esp. one published by an organization or society So with all we can state that 97.111(b)(6) means in layman term A radio siganal necessary to spread knowledge as a statement on matters of amateur interest something on that lines no where in the FCC rules and regulations does it state it has to be NEWS only that it has to be information consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur service. After reading stuff off of not only this newsgroup but other amateur message boards I understand that many amateur's think that a information bulletin is a news bulletin but again nowhere in the FCC rules does it state that. Granted I should have said information rather than news. However opinion pieces are not information. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Todd Daugherty wrote:
Where in the FCC rules and regulations does it state that it has to be a news bulletin? I think that's where Amateurs have a misunderstanding. The term in the FCC rules and regulations state: 97.3(a)(25) Information bulletin. A message directed only to amateur operators consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur service. And you must also look at 97.111(b)(6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins; Let look at the bottom one first. "Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins" now we all know what transmission means at lease I hope you all do so lets look at the ending section of that part "disseminate information bulletins". Disseminate according to The American Heritage Dictionary disseminate means to spread or to be spread. Information according to the same dictionary means "Knowledge from study or experience. (2)Knowledge of an event or situation; Intelligence. (3) A collection of facts or data (4) Informing or being informed; communication of Knowledge. Lastly a bulletin is according to American Heritage Dictonary is (1) A printed or broadcast statement on a matter of public interest (2) A periodical, esp. one published by an organization or society So with all we can state that 97.111(b)(6) means in layman term A radio siganal necessary to spread knowledge as a statement on matters of amateur interest something on that lines no where in the FCC rules and regulations does it state it has to be NEWS only that it has to be information consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur service. After reading stuff off of not only this newsgroup but other amateur message boards I understand that many amateur's think that a information bulletin is a news bulletin but again nowhere in the FCC rules does it state that. I'll try to put it into words that hopefully even you can understand. The spirit of the rule means that the one-way transmissions on the amateur bands should contain bulletins or information pertaining to amateur radio and directed only to amateur radio operators and the subject matter should be that which is of interest to the amateur radio service. My, that is almost exactly what the rule itself says. Now quit trying to be a self taught lawyer, you are proving you are very poor at it. It really doesn't matter how you interpet the rules, what matters is how the FCC interperts them and if they interpert them differently than you do, that's your problem. |
Hi Burt,
You know the easiest way of solving this problem which I'm working on, is a petition for rulemaking to clarify what a Information bulletin is. That would solve the problem once and for all Todd N9OGL Todd, I'd be careful if I were you. You must remember that even if you are "technically" correct, If and whan they decide to cast their light upon you, it's all open to interpretation. In the final analysis, their interpretation will be the only one that counts. You might want to tread a tad more carefully. I hold no opinion as to the correctness of your activities. I just believe that you're playing *against* the home team and there's lotsa cork in those bats. -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384 QRP ARCI #11782 ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
Granted I should have said information rather than news. However opinion pieces are not information. There's content that would be opinion on stuff only of interest to hams, like "I think the FCC should get rid of code tests" or "Everyone should know code". |
Todd Daugherty wrote:
well like I stated untill the FCC makes a ruling on the matter where every amateur gets the message this problem will never be solved. As for playing lawyer it don't take a rocket scientist to read the rules. But it does take some brains to read the rules and know what they mean, unfortunately that leaves you out. Your sentence should read, "it "doesn't" take a rocket....." The word "doesn't" is the contraction for "does not", "don't" is the contraction for "do not". I wouldn't banter around anything about someone's IQ if I were you, as you cannot even use correct grammer. |
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:05:31 -0600, Todd Daugherty wrote:
A Petition for Rulemaking is not the proper way to get this ruling. It would be dismissed out of hand. Strike One. OK what is then??? Consult your local communications attorney admitted to practice before the FCC. You are not my client and I'm not going to do the "heavy lifting" for you. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane |
Todd Daugherty wrote:
Put Hollingsworth dick or it that stupid fat **** Phil Kane dick back in your mouth and shut the hell up you whiney little bitchwhore! Poor little Toddyboy, now reduced to using the gutter language of jr high schoolers he spies on down at the mall where he picks up these wonderful elocutionary skills. Post when and what frequency you will be on 20 meters and I'll be sure and give you a call and lets see if you are brave enough to use such language on the air. |
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