K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers
shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information
can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson

Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.

Different circumstances.

I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that I
sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was
sensitive.

Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.

73

Steve, K4YZ

In other words, no hostile actions.

In other words, you're wrong.

Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared
some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the
flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...

It's up to you.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"

We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....

Things are gentlemanly. If you wish to change the situation, it's on
you.

Best of Luck.

Otherwise tell us about your undocumented, illegal operation
from
Somalia. It was OK, supposedly, becasue some butter bar gave you the
nod, but your butter bar was not a representitive of the UN officers
who were in charge at the time.

Obviously you weren't there, or you'd be able to make reference to 8
hostile actions. And I don't reall a single LT, butter bar or not. We
tend to deploy with our experienced people. I did see one reserve
Staff Sargeant, but that was about the lowest rank I saw. He wasn't in
the UN either.

After that you can get around to providing us the links that
corroborate your "Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency
comms" assertion.

Go get a better quote.

Then you can provided us some sort of verification of your claim
of having worked the equivilent of DXCC a couple times over.

Go get a quote for that one, too.

Those are radio-related issues that you claim expertise,
experience or otherwise are knowledgeable of.

So far you've provided us absolutely nothing, and those are just
the RADIO related issues.

My statements can stand on their own.

And if your nose isn't bruised and bloodied enough after that,
there are some other issues I will be glad to regurgitate for NG
consumption, but we'll wait and see if you decide to exercise some

"Bruised and bloody." Interesting choice of words. Are you doing some
kind of violence?

So...You up to getting your NG butt whupped again, or do you
just
want to forget that you re-opened a can of worms that folks were just
now starting to forget?

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, I don't believe you've ever given anyone else a "butt whooping."
Perhaps in some fantasy kind of way.

Anyway, when are you going to tell us your 7 war stories?

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: "bb" - Find messages by this author
Date: 9 Feb 2005 17:13:05 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 9 2005 5:13 pm
Subject: Len's terms of endearments list
Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
original | Report Abuse



K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers
shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information
can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson


Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.


Different circumstances.


I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that I

sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was
sensitive.


Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.


73


Steve, K4YZ


In other words, no hostile actions.


In other words, you're wrong.


Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared
some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the
flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...


It's up to you.


73


Steve, K4YZ


Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"


We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....



Things are gentlemanly. If you wish to change the situation, it's on
you.

Best of Luck.

Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Otherwise tell us about your undocumented, illegal operation
from
Somalia. It was OK, supposedly, becasue some butter bar gave you the

nod, but your butter bar was not a representitive of the UN officers
who were in charge at the time.

Obviously you weren't there, or you'd be able to make reference to 8
hostile actions. And I don't reall a single LT, butter bar or not. We

tend to deploy with our experienced people. I did see one reserve
Staff Sargeant, but that was about the lowest rank I saw. He wasn't in

the UN either.

Stebe has ultimate authority in ham radio. Everywhere.

If He says you be illegal, you are illegal. In his tunnel vision,
that is.


After that you can get around to providing us the links that
corroborate your "Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency
comms" assertion.

Go get a better quote.

Stebe hasn't done much "emergency comms" stuff, obviously.

But His imagination has! :-)


Then you can provided us some sort of verification of your claim

of having worked the equivilent of DXCC a couple times over.

Go get a quote for that one, too.


Those are radio-related issues that you claim expertise,
experience or otherwise are knowledgeable of.

So far you've provided us absolutely nothing, and those are just

the RADIO related issues.

My statements can stand on their own.

Doesn't matter whether or not anyone provides bona fide references
for Stebe. If'n he say you be wrong, you be wrong! :-)




And if your nose isn't bruised and bloodied enough after that,
there are some other issues I will be glad to regurgitate for NG
consumption, but we'll wait and see if you decide to exercise some

"Bruised and bloody." Interesting choice of words. Are you doing some

kind of violence?

Stebe is Conan the Barbarian in here, master of wanting to do
violence.



So...You up to getting your NG butt whupped again, or do you
just
want to forget that you re-opened a can of worms that folks were just

now starting to forget?

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, I don't believe you've ever given anyone else a "butt whooping."

Perhaps in some fantasy kind of way.

Ackshully, Stebe said "whupped." Das a TN word which I think
means Stebe's imagination filled out his dream desire for gory
glory and the Prince of Barbarians, conquering all who stand in
his way!

Anyway, when are you going to tell us your 7 war stories?

I think those were "hostile actions." Stebe will say those are all
"classified" or somesuch since he can't talk about them in
public. :-)

It's the same way with his NOT talking about all those military
radios he supposedly used while in the military. He's not
mentioned but one and that is really an old commercial rig
(which he probably saw briefly at some base MARS station).
Stebe said (a long time ago) that all that radio information was
"secret" or words to that effect, therefore he "couldn't talk about
them in public." :-)

Never mind that nearly ALL of those military radios have been
public knowledge for years, information available from many,
many public sources. Geez, even before Stebe mumbled his
"secret radio" thing, I'd given the link to Army Field Manual
FM 24-24 that's been in public dissemination status since 1994.
[24-24 is a directory of Signal Devices and similar links are
available on various ham radio Internet sites.

Wait a minute. Maybe Soldier of Fortune magazine is going to
publish this great war hero's story? In that case, there's prolly
a Non-Disclosure Agreement mandating he can't talk about it!

Yeah, that's it. Stebe can't talk about it because of the NDA!

Wow. Funny Fiction time again! :-)

Lennie the liar wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers
shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of
information
can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson


Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and
claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.


Different circumstances.


I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that
I

sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was
sensitive.


Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.


73


Steve, K4YZ


In other words, no hostile actions.


In other words, you're wrong.


Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared
some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the
flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...


It's up to you.


73


Steve, K4YZ


Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories
about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"


We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....



Things are gentlemanly. If you wish to change the situation, it's on
you.

Best of Luck.

Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Not all, Lennie.

Just those that have PROVEN that they are not being truthful.
Like you and your sidkekick.

Otherwise tell us about your undocumented, illegal operation
from
Somalia. It was OK, supposedly, becasue some butter bar gave you
the

nod, but your butter bar was not a representitive of the UN
officers
who were in charge at the time.

Obviously you weren't there, or you'd be able to make reference to 8
hostile actions. And I don't reall a single LT, butter bar or not.
We

tend to deploy with our experienced people. I did see one reserve
Staff Sargeant, but that was about the lowest rank I saw. He wasn't
in

the UN either.

Stebe has ultimate authority in ham radio. Everywhere.

If He says you be illegal, you are illegal. In his tunnel vision,
that is.

Nope. In facts.

Brian had no lawful permission to operate from Somalia. Period.

After that you can get around to providing us the links that
corroborate your "Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency
comms" assertion.

Go get a better quote.

Stebe hasn't done much "emergency comms" stuff, obviously.

Far, far more than you or Brian, Lennie.

Enought to know that he's not right and you're inexperienced.

But His imagination has!

I think this meant something, but what?

Then you can provided us some sort of verification of your
claim

of having worked the equivilent of DXCC a couple times over.

Go get a quote for that one, too.


Those are radio-related issues that you claim expertise,
experience or otherwise are knowledgeable of.

So far you've provided us absolutely nothing, and those are
just

the RADIO related issues.

My statements can stand on their own.

Doesn't matter whether or not anyone provides bona fide references
for Stebe. If'n he say you be wrong, you be wrong!

So far, there's been NO references.

From you OR him. The TRUTH is that unlicensed radio systems do
NOT play a "major role" in emergency communications.

And if your nose isn't bruised and bloodied enough after that,
there are some other issues I will be glad to regurgitate for NG
consumption, but we'll wait and see if you decide to exercise some

"Bruised and bloody." Interesting choice of words. Are you doing
some

kind of violence?

Stebe is Conan the Barbarian in here, master of wanting to do
violence.

If I truly wanted to do violence, Lennie, you'd be doing your
postings with a push stick in your teeth.

So...You up to getting your NG butt whupped again, or do you
just
want to forget that you re-opened a can of worms that folks were
just

now starting to forget?

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, I don't believe you've ever given anyone else a "butt
whooping."

Perhaps in some fantasy kind of way.

Ackshully, Stebe said "whupped." Das a TN word which I think
means Stebe's imagination filled out his dream desire for gory
glory and the Prince of Barbarians, conquering all who stand in
his way!

Nope.

Just a good old fashioned thrashing. The kind that pathological
liars and cheaters need from time to time. Too bad the law doesn't
allow it, but then again, you'd be doing your postings with a push
stick in your teeth, Lennie.

Anyway, when are you going to tell us your 7 war stories?

I think those were "hostile actions." Stebe will say those are
all
"classified" or somesuch since he can't talk about them in
public.

It's the same way with his NOT talking about all those military
radios he supposedly used while in the military. He's not
mentioned but one and that is really an old commercial rig
(which he probably saw briefly at some base MARS station).
Stebe said (a long time ago) that all that radio information was
"secret" or words to that effect, therefore he "couldn't talk
about
them in public."

No, Lennie...The "I can't talk about it bbecasue it's an on-going
project" tht YOU cited due to your "working part time but retired from
regular hours" routine.

I never said anything about any systems I worked on being
classified or secret.

You're welcome to TRY and find the post wherein you think I did...

Never mind that nearly ALL of those military radios have been
public knowledge for years, information available from many,
many public sources. Geez, even before Stebe mumbled his
"secret radio" thing, I'd given the link to Army Field Manual
FM 24-24 that's been in public dissemination status since 1994.
[24-24 is a directory of Signal Devices and similar links are
available on various ham radio Internet sites.

Wait a minute. Maybe Soldier of Fortune magazine is going to
publish this great war hero's story? In that case, there's prolly
a Non-Disclosure Agreement mandating he can't talk about it!

Yeah, that's it. Stebe can't talk about it because of the NDA!

No, Lennie...The "I can't talk about it bbecasue it's an on-going
project" tht YOU cited due to your "working part time but retired from
regular hours" routine.

I never said anything about any systems I worked on being
classified or secret.

Wow. Funny Fiction time again!

Oh...you are working up yet another "in comming artillery" story?
Or is this one going to be another Soviet aircraft being danger close?

Yes, Lennie...Someone in here likes to write fiction, but it isn't
me.



Lying Putz @ aol.com

Steve, K4YZ

wrote:
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: "bb" - Find messages by this author
Date: 9 Feb 2005 17:13:05 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 9 2005 5:13 pm
Subject: Len's terms of endearments list
Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
original | Report Abuse



K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers
shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of
information
can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson


Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and
claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.


Different circumstances.


I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that
I

sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was
sensitive.


Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.


73


Steve, K4YZ


In other words, no hostile actions.


In other words, you're wrong.


Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared
some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the
flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...


It's up to you.


73


Steve, K4YZ


Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories
about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"


We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....



Things are gentlemanly. If you wish to change the situation, it's on
you.

Best of Luck.

Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Somethings wrong with that guy. But I'd still like to hear his 7
adventure stories. Maybe over beers at the American Legion.

I wonder why he ever shot off his mouth about "seven hostile actions"
if he is so adamant about not talking about it?

bb wrote:
wrote:


Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Somethings wrong with that guy. But I'd still like to hear his 7
adventure stories. Maybe over beers at the American Legion.

I wonder why he ever shot off his mouth about "seven hostile actions"
if he is so adamant about not talking about it?

Nothing wrong. Just not appropriate to this forum. And I didn't
"shoot my mouth off", Brian.

Now...back to those T5/KH/HL logs and the DXCC several times over
comments YOU made. Those ARE germane to Amateur Radio even though it's
apparent you can't seem to get your "facts" right.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:


Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Somethings wrong with that guy. But I'd still like to hear his 7
adventure stories. Maybe over beers at the American Legion.

I wonder why he ever shot off his mouth about "seven hostile
actions"
if he is so adamant about not talking about it?

Nothing wrong. Just not appropriate to this forum. And I
didn't
"shoot my mouth off", Brian.

Some see it that way.

Now...back to those T5/KH/HL logs and the DXCC several times
over
comments YOU made. Those ARE germane to Amateur Radio even though
it's
apparent you can't seem to get your "facts" right.

Steve, K4YZ

My amateur operation in Somalia is none of your concern.

1. you weren't there.
2. you were not my commanding officer.
3. the United Nations was not in my chain of cammand.
4. you are not in my logs.
5. you weren't even a bystander.

Apparently, Somalia is one hostile action that you missed out on. Best
of luck next time.

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy
that I sent mail to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it in open forum dispite having been told the material was
sensitive.

Poor Stebe. Thought he could get away with some bragging. :-)

"Sensitive info." That's terminology of the DoD in regards
to information that is not discussed in public. So...it is "okay"
to mention some vague generalities of claimed military
experience but the "details are sensitive!" :-)

In other words, no hostile actions.

In other words, you're wrong.

Tsk, tsk. "In other words," Stebe was just plain LYING. :-)



Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories
about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"

We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....

Tsk, tsk. Things "suck" on agreeing with Steve. :-)

Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Somethings wrong with that guy. But I'd still like to hear his 7
adventure stories. Maybe over beers at the American Legion.

I wonder why he ever shot off his mouth about "seven hostile actions"
if he is so adamant about not talking about it?

Well, Brian, you and me and everyone else reading in here know
that Stebe left the safety off and shot out that brag statement. He
can't admit to being wrong (ever) for fear of losing his self esteem
(in his own eyes) so he keeps pressing and pressing and pressing
on his alleged "rightness" of that claim.

If and only if those "seven hostile actions" were really
"sensitive,"
then he should NOT have admitted any such thing under the DoD
information release guidelines. Just admitting he "took part" in
some
"sensitive" activity is a direct violation of policy.

In all probability, he never took part in any "sensitive" hostile
actions
that he "cannot talk about." He is just making up stories. LYING.

In his latest reply to the quoted above exchanges, he tries to
misdirect
the thread into his charges of your "unlawful operation" on amateur
bands while serving in the USAF in a foreign country. Stebe has NO
authority of any kind to "charge" you with anything in that regard.
If
he had, then he should have contacted the Judge Advocate General
office of the USAF and lodged a formal complaint...which would be
ridiculous since he has NO evidence of any wrongdoing by you. He
did not. Had he done so, he would have been laughed at (a terrible
no-no to him).

But, "face" is everything to him, it seems. He must keep up his
ruff and tuff behavior to prove he is "superior" and therefore will
never
ever admit to wrongdoing of HIS claims. It is always the OTHER
person who "did wrong." :-)

In one way, it is quite funny that he keeps on trying to claim such
"hostile action" experience without any evidence of his
participation.
It gets more hilarious when he says (in another posting) that "it
has
nothing to do with amateur radio!" Tsk, tsk, if it has nothing to
do
with amateur radio, why does he keep posting on that in here? :-)

He ought to just "suck it up" and forget about it. :-)

Well, back to "amateur radio subjects" about discussions of national
economy, national politics, and retirement plans. A valid amateur
radio license must be held to access the newsgroup? :-)

The ham Chat Room is picking up steam...

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy
that I sent mail to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him
and
disucssed
it in open forum dispite having been told the material
was
sensitive.

Poor Stebe. Thought he could get away with some bragging. :-)

"Sensitive info." That's terminology of the DoD in regards
to information that is not discussed in public. So...it is "okay"
to mention some vague generalities of claimed military
experience but the "details are sensitive!" :-)

He forgot the golden rule of story telling.

A fairy tale starts out, "Once upon a time..."

A war story starts out, "This is no ****..."

He should have started out with the "Once upon a time..." version.
Maybe the gloved one will offer him a respite at never-never land.

In other words, no hostile actions.

In other words, you're wrong.

Tsk, tsk. "In other words," Stebe was just plain LYING. :-)

Could be. Probably. Who knows? Probably not even Steve.

Maybe he's referring to being fitted for a white dinner jacket. Seven
times.

Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories
about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"

We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....

Tsk, tsk. Things "suck" on agreeing with Steve. :-)

Indeed. By "gentlemanly" he means that you must be intimidated "or
else."

Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Somethings wrong with that guy. But I'd still like to hear his 7
adventure stories. Maybe over beers at the American Legion.

I wonder why he ever shot off his mouth about "seven hostile
actions"
if he is so adamant about not talking about it?

Well, Brian, you and me and everyone else reading in here know
that Stebe left the safety off and shot out that brag statement.
He
can't admit to being wrong (ever) for fear of losing his self
esteem
(in his own eyes) so he keeps pressing and pressing and pressing
on his alleged "rightness" of that claim.

Two wrong "rightnesses" don't make a right. Neither does two dozen.

If and only if those "seven hostile actions" were really
"sensitive,"
then he should NOT have admitted any such thing under the DoD
information release guidelines. Just admitting he "took part" in
some
"sensitive" activity is a direct violation of policy.

Maybe he's waiting for someone to make that "phone call."

In all probability, he never took part in any "sensitive" hostile
actions
that he "cannot talk about." He is just making up stories.
LYING.

Maybe. Probably. Who knows? Probably not even Steve.

In his latest reply to the quoted above exchanges, he tries to
misdirect
the thread into his charges of your "unlawful operation" on
amateur
bands while serving in the USAF in a foreign country.

Yep. He took his gentilemans gloves off. Such a putz.

Stebe has NO
authority of any kind to "charge" you with anything in that
regard.

Perhaps it serves to recharge his lithium?

If
he had, then he should have contacted the Judge Advocate General
office of the USAF and lodged a formal complaint...which would be
ridiculous since he has NO evidence of any wrongdoing by you. He
did not. Had he done so, he would have been laughed at (a
terrible
no-no to him).

But, but, but...

the phone is ringing somewhere.

But, "face" is everything to him, it seems. He must keep up his
ruff and tuff behavior to prove he is "superior" and therefore
will
never
ever admit to wrongdoing of HIS claims. It is always the OTHER
person who "did wrong." :-)

The Corps didn't teach him that. Prolly why he got discharged.

In one way, it is quite funny that he keeps on trying to claim
such
"hostile action" experience without any evidence of his
participation.

But he participates in amateur radio. Makes everything else he says
legit.

It gets more hilarious when he says (in another posting) that "it
has
nothing to do with amateur radio!" Tsk, tsk, if it has nothing to
do
with amateur radio, why does he keep posting on that in here? :-)

Low intelligence?

He ought to just "suck it up" and forget about it. :-)

He does look like he's got enough belly to suck up a lot misdirection.

Well, back to "amateur radio subjects" about discussions of
national
economy, national politics, and retirement plans. A valid amateur
radio license must be held to access the newsgroup? :-)

Ayup.

How's the SS holding out?

Has the gov't attached any new taxes to the payout?

Have you had to "means test" yet?

The ham Chat Room is picking up steam...



Toot toot.

bb wrote:

wrote:

The ham Chat Room is picking up steam...



Toot toot.

Somehow the vision of you sitting in a tub of Mr Bubble pushing a
toy tugboat around going "toot toot" seems to fit. Why am I not
surprised?


Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:

wrote:

The ham Chat Room is picking up steam...



Toot toot.

Somehow the vision of you sitting in a tub of Mr Bubble pushing
a
toy tugboat around going "toot toot" seems to fit. Why am I not
surprised?


Steve, K4YZ

You're not suprised because it is your little vision.

It has nothing to do with me.