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Old February 17th 05, 08:59 PM
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robert casey wrote:
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WOuld it be illegal to use my callsign as my "cb handle" on

CB using legal CB equipment? pace.

Nope.

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Old February 18th 05, 03:21 PM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:41:11 GMT, robert casey
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They'll take a check or credit card too. It's not at all difficult
to buy whatever you desire, license or not.


AFAIK, there's no rule requiring a license to BUY
equipment. There are rules about using it though.....


You are correct, there is no such written rule. However some merchants
take it upon themselves to enforce this "rule". IMHO, if they make
enough money that they can afford to turn away potential customers,
more power to them. Most ham stores though, aren't exactly busting at
the seems with buyers......

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Old February 18th 05, 03:23 PM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:46:47 GMT, robert casey
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I doubt if the hams who freeband are dumb enough to use their calls
there (but you never know). But I wouldn't be surprised to learn that
they are "recognized" there by other people who turn them in.

Some might ID by mistake out of habit before they realize that
they are out of band.....


That could happen. I've caught myself almost doing it a few times.


WOuld it be illegal to use my callsign as my "cb handle" on
CB using legal CB equipment? Or would I be using my ham
license out of band? Not that anyone would really care, but....


If you are running legal CB gear on legal CB channels, you certainly
can use a ham call as a "handle". Why someone would is another
question.





| If you are going to freeband, having a ham license may actually be
| detrimental.

Freebanders don't generally ID themselves at all. To actually track
one down would be a lot harder.



Yes, I agree. It just seems funny that the latest freeband bust seem
to be hams running out of band over unlicensed operation.


I've heard second hand of hams, bored of regular ham bands,
doing "freeband" for a change of pace.



Many hams used to be CB'ers/Freebanders, and like to "return to the
roost" once in a while.

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Old February 18th 05, 07:42 PM
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Many hams used to be CB'ers/Freebanders, and like to "return to the
roost" once in a while.


I got my start in radio with a legal CB radio back in 1976.
Then got a ham license and never went back. If I wanted
to "freeband" I can legally use the 10 meter band as a ham
for the same operations. But with the sunspots out, I
can use 20 or lower just as legally.
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Old February 21st 05, 02:03 PM
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:42:08 GMT, robert casey
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Many hams used to be CB'ers/Freebanders, and like to "return to the
roost" once in a while.


I got my start in radio with a legal CB radio back in 1976.
Then got a ham license and never went back. If I wanted
to "freeband" I can legally use the 10 meter band as a ham
for the same operations. But with the sunspots out, I
can use 20 or lower just as legally.


Certainly. I agree. But some people do things differently. When 10/11
meters opens up, there is often only a handful of hams on 10, but
there are hundreds (or more) people on 11 meters. The DX potential is
better.

I don't condone it, but I do understand it.

Dave
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Old February 23rd 05, 10:21 PM
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ah ha ha how true but i have seen so call hams(proffesional no code techs)
gater on cb so they can use profanity.they seem to like the idea they can
GET AWAY with it...ah ha ha 73, ``THE REAL HAM``

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Old February 24th 05, 02:50 AM
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Dave Hall wrote:


Any ham who works H.F. knows that conditions vary between the bands.
If DX is the name of the game, those who are rabid about it, will seek
out whatever avenues exist to achieve that goal.

From a propagation standpoint, there is little difference in
conditions between 10, 11 and 12 meters. But there are far more
operators on 11 meters at any given time, so there are more chances to
make that "rare" contact.


Gee, I could use a contact in North Dakota to finish off my
"Worked All States" award. Think I could use a freeband QSL
card? ;-)
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Old February 24th 05, 07:04 AM
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Landshark wrote:
"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:14:14 -0500, Ham Guy

wrote:

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:02:00 GMT, Assneck Johnson
wrote:

I wonder how many freebanders have ham licenses...


Dave responds with:

Quite a few according to many of the more recent FCC enforcement
actions. It would seem that the FCC is more likely to pop a

licensed
ham for operating out of their assigned bands, than they are in
popping an unlicensed radio pirate.

If you are going to freeband, having a ham license may actually be
detrimental.

The reason freebanding is as rampant as it is is that the FCC is
simply not affecting all that many people. The chances of getting
popped are very slim, and they usually give you a warning first,

which
gives you a chance to pull the plug.

Freebanding is a violation of federal radio law, but without

effective
enforcement, that earns very little respect among those who pursue

it.

Dave
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Dave, you type this above, then type this 4 minutes later.
Make up your mind


Yes, Dave, make up your mind. You are going to lose friends among the
freebanders if you say anything is wrong with it.

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Proposal: Make 11 meters available to to HAMs as secondary use. Power
restricted to 100 Watts. Then the HAMs can have QSOs with CBers.
-Scott



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Old March 6th 05, 07:41 PM
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Steveo wrote:
Ham Guy wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:02:00 GMT, Assneck Johnson
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:55:28 -0500, Len pooped out:



It will cost you $13K if Uncle Charlie finds you. Thus it's not

free,
so there's no freeband.... :-)

Really, what can you do illegally on 27.567MHz that you, if you

have a
General or Extra class ham license, can do legally in the 10

meter ham
band?

Odds of getting caught and fined? Miniscule.


Riiiiiight. Go ahead and keep at it then, it's just a matter of

time.
They ARE going after people...


I wonder how many freebanders have ham licenses...

I know of three within 15 miles of me.

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