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Old February 12th 05, 01:37 AM
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Because 7040 kHz is the "RTTY DX" frequency in the ARRL bandplan.

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...dplan.html#40m

Whoever designated 7040 kHz as a QRP frequency didn't look at the ARRL band
plan.

Have heard suggestions to move the QRP Calling frequency to 7030 kHz -- but
that probably has a lot of data stuff too
But suspect the QRP Amateur Radio Club International should do that URL:
http://www.qrparci.org/



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Just was starting to get interested in QRP. Been making many contacts
with 1/2 watt on 7040 KHz. But lately it has been worthless due to all
the QRM from RTTY stations operating very close to 7040. Why? Why are
all the RTTY people meeting so close to 7040 when there is so much free
space in around 7090 area?

George - KI4FIA
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Old February 12th 05, 01:51 AM
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Caveat Lector wrote:

Because 7040 kHz is the "RTTY DX" frequency in the ARRL bandplan.

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...dplan.html#40m

Whoever designated 7040 kHz as a QRP frequency didn't look at the ARRL band
plan.


Actually I thought 7040 was a QRP freq before RTTY ever came
around....could be wrong but thought 7040 was QRP for a LOOONG time...
George
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Old February 12th 05, 02:27 AM
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RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out

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Caveat Lector wrote:

Because 7040 kHz is the "RTTY DX" frequency in the ARRL bandplan.

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...dplan.html#40m

Whoever designated 7040 kHz as a QRP frequency didn't look at the ARRL
band plan.


Actually I thought 7040 was a QRP freq before RTTY ever came
around....could be wrong but thought 7040 was QRP for a LOOONG time...
George



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Old February 12th 05, 03:16 AM
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Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out


Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had
RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq
was already in use (ya right!)

George
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Old February 12th 05, 02:17 PM
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GeorgeF wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out


Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had


RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq


was already in use (ya right!)


In the "Olde Days" a person operating ANY Amateur mode on that
frequeny would have been proficient in Morse Code to at least 13WPM,
the speed at which one reaches true "literacy" in Morse. (Able to
understand what was being sent without having to write down everything
to get it)

Incursions like this will continue, expecially with the spectre of
a true no code Amateur license looming close.

73 and didididadidah

Steve, K4YZ



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Old February 12th 05, 03:52 PM
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"K4YZ" wrote in message
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GeorgeF wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out


Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had


RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq


was already in use (ya right!)


In the "Olde Days" a person operating ANY Amateur mode on that
frequeny would have been proficient in Morse Code to at least 13WPM,
the speed at which one reaches true "literacy" in Morse. (Able to
understand what was being sent without having to write down everything
to get it)

Incursions like this will continue, expecially with the spectre of
a true no code Amateur license looming close.

73 and didididadidah

Steve, K4YZ

Exactly...not to mention the fact that IMHO most of the RTTY contesters just
don't give a damn who they clobber.

Tonight is the CW Sprint. 40 will be a total wipe out. However I will have
my RTTY program loaded. And the tape running. One way or another they will
know who they stepped on.

Dan/W4NTI


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Old February 12th 05, 03:57 PM
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"Dan" wrote in message
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"K4YZ" wrote in message
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GeorgeF wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out


Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had


RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq


was already in use (ya right!)


In the "Olde Days" a person operating ANY Amateur mode on that
frequeny would have been proficient in Morse Code to at least 13WPM,
the speed at which one reaches true "literacy" in Morse. (Able to
understand what was being sent without having to write down everything
to get it)

Incursions like this will continue, expecially with the spectre of
a true no code Amateur license looming close.

73 and didididadidah

Steve, K4YZ

Exactly...not to mention the fact that IMHO most of the RTTY contesters

just
don't give a damn who they clobber.

Tonight is the CW Sprint. 40 will be a total wipe out. However I will

have
my RTTY program loaded. And the tape running. One way or another they

will
know who they stepped on.

Dan/W4NTI



heh heh. Yeppers. That'll learn 'em. Of course, nothing more would be
expected from ya there, Dan.

Kim W5TIT


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Old February 12th 05, 06:18 PM
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GeorgeF wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out


Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had


RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq


was already in use (ya right!)

George


They don't call it QRP for nothing.

Did it occur to you that you and the other QRP ops might be in the
noise?

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Old February 13th 05, 01:28 AM
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Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had
RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq
was already in use (ya right!)


The RTTY people may not have the receiver audio playing in the
shack, but just looking at the computer monitor for decoded RTTY
messages. SO they may not realize that there's some code coming
in on freq. Changing band conditions and such.
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Old February 19th 05, 01:14 AM
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"robert casey" wrote in message
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Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has been
a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had RTTY
coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq was
already in use (ya right!)


The RTTY people may not have the receiver audio playing in the
shack, but just looking at the computer monitor for decoded RTTY
messages. SO they may not realize that there's some code coming
in on freq. Changing band conditions and such.


Just one more reason to call them LIDS.

Dan/W4NTI




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