There are many ham radio operators who misunderstand this paper so I'll give
a little example. Say I run a store, and in this store is empty boxes for
sale. Now often I would get someone to come into my store but no one would
buy my boxes. The reason for that is all I offer..the boxes. Now if I had a
variety of stuff to offer the business would pickup and I would be able to
compete with other stores. The same is true with amateur radio. If amateur
radio is to survive in the digital age outdated modes of communication won't
cut it. For amateur radio to survive they are going to have to offer
something besides an easy way to get a license. Amateurs will have to
compete in the sense that they are going to have to offer something that
would get people to join the service. Like I said for amateurs to compete in
the digital era out dated modes of communication and half ass forms of
communication aren't going to cut. Amateur radio will die because amateur
radio will have nothing to offer except those half ass modes and outdated
communications

Todd N9OGL



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You are a FREAKING moron!!!

Hmmm I read something like this in about 1950
Hasn't happened yet in fact increased enormously
Please give a date for the The Death of Amateur Radio
And we will take a dollar for every year it continues --- OK

Interesting that we have dozens of new hams that got a license to beat the
cell phone rates

--
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"Todd Daugherty" wrote in message
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There are many ham radio operators who misunderstand this paper so I'll
give
a little example. Say I run a store, and in this store is empty boxes for
sale. Now often I would get someone to come into my store but no one would
buy my boxes. The reason for that is all I offer..the boxes. Now if I had
a
variety of stuff to offer the business would pickup and I would be able to
compete with other stores. The same is true with amateur radio. If amateur
radio is to survive in the digital age outdated modes of communication
won't
cut it. For amateur radio to survive they are going to have to offer
something besides an easy way to get a license. Amateurs will have to
compete in the sense that they are going to have to offer something that
would get people to join the service. Like I said for amateurs to compete
in
the digital era out dated modes of communication and half ass forms of
communication aren't going to cut. Amateur radio will die because amateur
radio will have nothing to offer except those half ass modes and outdated
communications

Todd N9OGL



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Caveat Lector wrote:

Hmmm I read something like this in about 1950
Hasn't happened yet in fact increased enormously
Please give a date for the The Death of Amateur Radio
And we will take a dollar for every year it continues --- OK

Interesting that we have dozens of new hams that got a license to beat the
cell phone rates

That is why I got my ticket. At least because one of my hobbies is off
road 4WD'ing. More often than I care to admit, I get stuck in the woods,
and have to call my XYL to let her know I'm going to be late for dinner.

Eventually I found out what fun the hobby is, and went from there.

p.s. Don't you have a name besides your screen name? Seems kinda odd
calling you "caveat"! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

Todd Daugherty wrote:

There are many ham radio operators who misunderstand this paper so I'll give
a little example. Say I run a store, and in this store is empty boxes for
sale. Now often I would get someone to come into my store but no one would
buy my boxes. The reason for that is all I offer..the boxes. Now if I had a
variety of stuff to offer the business would pickup and I would be able to
compete with other stores. The same is true with amateur radio. If amateur
radio is to survive in the digital age outdated modes of communication won't
cut it. For amateur radio to survive they are going to have to offer
something besides an easy way to get a license. Amateurs will have to
compete in the sense that they are going to have to offer something that
would get people to join the service. Like I said for amateurs to compete in
the digital era out dated modes of communication and half ass forms of
communication aren't going to cut. Amateur radio will die because amateur
radio will have nothing to offer except those half ass modes and outdated
communications

Todd N9OGL

????????? How does empty boxes relate to Amateur Radio. I do know of
stores that make quite a bit of money selling empty boxes, so you must
be doing something terribly wrong toddyboy.

Todd Daugherty wrote:

Go to streets of your town as
ask the average person on the
street if they had a choice between the
Internet and Amateur radio which one would
they pick? The vast majority of
people would pick the internet.

Red herring alert! You don't need to choose "between" them..... it's
perfectly acceptable to participate in both, and for different reasons.

Come back when you've learned logical debating techniques.

With kindest personal regards,

Hans, K0HB

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Todd Daugherty wrote:

Go to streets of your town as
ask the average person on the
street if they had a choice between the
Internet and Amateur radio which one would
they pick? The vast majority of
people would pick the internet.

Red herring alert! You don't need to choose "between" them..... it's
perfectly acceptable to participate in both, and for different reasons.

Come back when you've learned logical debating techniques.

With kindest personal regards,

Hans, K0HB


Haven't seen you in here for awhile. Where have you been?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

The point of the argument is for amateur's radio to grow amateurs are
going
to have to compete with the internet. Compete in the sense of getting
people into the hobby. The old modes of communication isn't going to
cut
it anymore. The vast majority of people would rather get on the
internet
instead of getting into a hobby which has nothing to really offer in
terms
new modes of communication. Many amateur radio operators can face the
fact
that amateur radio is slowly falling behind in technology and thus in
turn
is slowly dying off. Amateur radio will not grow if you can't get
people
into the service. You can drop the licensing structure down to nothing
but
no one will come into a hobby without dated modes of communication.


Todd N9OGL

N9OGL wrote:

The point of the argument is for amateur's radio to grow amateurs are
going
to have to compete with the internet.

No, that not only isn't the point, there isn't any argument except in
your mind.

Compete in the sense of getting
people into the hobby.

Amateur radio competes with any other leisure activity for time. Some
folks find it fascinating. Some have no interest. Not everyone is
going to become a radio amateur.

The old modes of communication isn't going to
cut it anymore.

They seem to be cutting it just fine, Todd. What new mode do you use in
your clandestine "broadcasts"?


The vast majority of people would rather get on the
internet
instead of getting into a hobby which has nothing to really offer in
terms
new modes of communication.

The vast majority of people are never going to become hams. It has
always been that way and will always be that way.

Many amateur radio operators can face the
fact
that amateur radio is slowly falling behind in technology and thus in
turn
is slowly dying off.

You've managed to dump a couple of false premises in one sentence.
You're wrong about technology and about amateur radio dying.

Amateur radio will not grow if you can't get
people
into the service.

Amateur radio licensing numbers are near an all time high.

You can drop the licensing structure down to nothing
but
no one will come into a hobby without dated modes of communication.

I'm too busy laughing at your sentence to give you a serious reply,
Todd.

Dave K8MN

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
N9OGL wrote:

The point of the argument is for amateur's radio to grow amateurs are
going
to have to compete with the internet.

No, that not only isn't the point, there isn't any argument except in
your mind.

Compete in the sense of getting
people into the hobby.

Amateur radio competes with any other leisure activity for time. Some
folks find it fascinating. Some have no interest. Not everyone is
going to become a radio amateur.

The old modes of communication isn't going to
cut it anymore.

They seem to be cutting it just fine, Todd. What new mode do you use in
your clandestine "broadcasts"?

I'm running an information bulletin you dickhead and no matter what the ****
you think their ****ing legal so get over it!

The vast majority of people would rather get on the
internet
instead of getting into a hobby which has nothing to really offer in
terms
new modes of communication.

The vast majority of people are never going to become hams. It has
always been that way and will always be that way.

No, not all people well get into amateur radio, but unless you can come up
with new idea's the service will die. I was talking to other amatuers about
this subject odd of the internet and agree that amateur radio will probably
die off in a few years.

Many amateur radio operators can face the
fact
that amateur radio is slowly falling behind in technology and thus in
turn
is slowly dying off.

You've managed to dump a couple of false premises in one sentence.
You're wrong about technology and about amateur radio dying.

Oh really, what NEW technologies has amatuer radio come up with worth
getting into? Amateur are falling behind that's the truth.

Amateur radio will not grow if you can't get
people
into the service.

Amateur radio licensing numbers are near an all time high.

Not true, according to the statistics last year amateur radio went up and
down in the number of people entering the service. last month it was down by
over 1,000 people.

You can drop the licensing structure down to nothing
but
no one will come into a hobby without dated modes of communication.

I'm too busy laughing at your sentence to give you a serious reply,
Todd.

Dave K8MN




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