Dr. Daffodil Swain wrote:
Why not maintain the 5WPM requirement in the U.S., but give No-Code Techs
access to the 80, 40, 15, and 10 meter old novice sub-bands. This would
allow aspiring upgraders a place to hone their skills without having to
just listen to recordings. Also, the sending skills can be developed as
well. A side benefit would be hearing the sound of CW again ( even if it's
bad) in these largly unused segments. Just a thought.



This makes no sense at all. If the so called no-code techs can't do code
now, how would giving them access to code only portion of the bands help
them learn code? If they want to listen to code, they can do that now
without a license. There are code portions of the 2 meter and 6 meter
bands that they have access to now, but I'll bet none of them go there
to practice code! Five wpm isn't that much, if you know the characters
already. If you don't know the characters, then I see no way that you
are going to practice sending code?

Beg to differ -- I have worked several no code techs on six meters who were
practicing their code.

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Dr. Daffodil Swain wrote:
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This makes no sense at all. If the so called no-code techs can't do code
now, how would giving them access to code only portion of the bands help
them learn code? If they want to listen to code, they can do that now
without a license. There are code portions of the 2 meter and 6 meter
bands that they have access to now, but I'll bet none of them go there to
practice code! Five wpm isn't that much, if you know the characters
already. If you don't know the characters, then I see no way that you are
going to practice sending code?

That's sort of what I meant when I said there are places on 2 and 6.
I'll bet the ones you worked could do 5 wpm or at least copy at that
speed. I'm saying the ones that can't do code aren't doing it on the
bands they have now so why give them more? If they can do it on 6 meters
then they can take the code test and they will have all the novice sub
bands to use!

Caveat Lector wrote:

Beg to differ -- I have worked several no code techs on six meters who were
practicing their code.

Agree

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Help The New Hams
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"whoever" whoever@wherever wrote in message
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That's sort of what I meant when I said there are places on 2 and 6. I'll
bet the ones you worked could do 5 wpm or at least copy at that speed. I'm
saying the ones that can't do code aren't doing it on the bands they have
now so why give them more? If they can do it on 6 meters then they can
take the code test and they will have all the novice sub bands to use!

Caveat Lector wrote:

Beg to differ -- I have worked several no code techs on six meters who
were practicing their code.

"whoever" whoever@wherever wrote in message
...
That's sort of what I meant when I said there are places on 2 and 6. I'll
bet the ones you worked could do 5 wpm or at least copy at that speed. I'm
saying the ones that can't do code aren't doing it on the bands they have
now so why give them more? If they can do it on 6 meters then they can
take the code test and they will have all the novice sub bands to use!


Actually it might give them more incentive to work on it since they could
use it right away.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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"whoever" whoever@wherever wrote in message
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That's sort of what I meant when I said there are places on 2 and 6. I'll
bet the ones you worked could do 5 wpm or at least copy at that speed.
I'm saying the ones that can't do code aren't doing it on the bands they
have now so why give them more? If they can do it on 6 meters then they
can take the code test and they will have all the novice sub bands to
use!


Actually it might give them more incentive to work on it since they could
use it right away.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Sadly, it's exactly the opposite. They appear to have no wish to "work" for
HF privileges. Anything other than a complete "gimme" is unsuitable.

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QRP ARCI #11782

This makes no sense at all. If the so called no-code techs can't do code
now, how would giving them access to code only portion of the bands help
them learn code? If they want to listen to code, they can do that now
without a license. There are code portions of the 2 meter and 6 meter
bands that they have access to now, but I'll bet none of them go there
to practice code!

One feature of letting them use HF code bands is propagation.
They would more likely be able to find someone else to QSL
with somewhere in the country vs only in their county. And
as hams already they should know the protocols about listening
first to see if the freq is in use at the time or not, etc.

"Dr. Daffodil Swain" wrote in message
ink.net...
Why not maintain the 5WPM requirement in the U.S., but give No-Code Techs
access to the 80, 40, 15, and 10 meter old novice sub-bands. This would
allow aspiring upgraders a place to hone their skills without having to
just listen to recordings. Also, the sending skills can be developed as
well. A side benefit would be hearing the sound of CW again ( even if
it's
bad) in these largly unused segments. Just a thought.



That's what I have thought would be a good way to go. Simply make all Tech
licenses the equivalent of the current Tech with Morse. That gives them the
old Novice code bands and the old "Novice enhancement" of 10m voice.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:
"Dr. Daffodil Swain" wrote in message
ink.net...
Why not maintain the 5WPM requirement in the U.S., but give No-Code
Techs
access to the 80, 40, 15, and 10 meter old novice sub-bands. This
would
allow aspiring upgraders a place to hone their skills without
having to
just listen to recordings. Also, the sending skills can be
developed as
well. A side benefit would be hearing the sound of CW again ( even
if
it's
bad) in these largly unused segments. Just a thought.


That's what I have thought would be a good way to go.

Yes, yes. And the Titanic should have had a caring CW operator, and a
few more life boats. And Leonardo Decappitico.

Jim thinks it should have sped up and rammed the iceberg. He's a
neocon on icebergology.

;^)

Dr. Daffodil Swain wrote:
Why not maintain the 5WPM requirement in the U.S., but give No-Code
Techs
access to the 80, 40, 15, and 10 meter old novice sub-bands.

Hey, you have an excellent idea that should have flown in the 1970's.
Maybe early 80's. Way too late for that kind of nonsense today.

This would
allow aspiring upgraders a place to hone their skills without having
to
just listen to recordings. Also, the sending skills can be developed
as
well. A side benefit would be hearing the sound of CW again ( even
if it's
bad) in these largly unused segments. Just a thought.

The people that were once willing to learn Morse Code have done so.
You saw the end of the line some time ago.