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Earn your priviliges. It isn't impossible.


Just be sure that the things one needs to do to earn the
privileges are revalent to modern ham radio.

Why should ham radio be different than other activities? Most of
the things we do to gain privileges in this world are not relevant
to the privilege itself.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




Oh, so everything else is messed up, so ham radio should be messed
up too? Even if I thought it were true, that would still be the
worst argument I have heard yet, ROTFLMAO!



It does not mean that things are messed up. It is simply a fact that
a very effective way to motivate people to do something that they
don't want to do is to tie it to a privilege that they very much
want. Parents do it all the time.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




So treat prospective hams like errant children?

No not at all. Let's use a workplace example instead. Many people,
even if they like their jobs, do have elements of the work they don't
like. However they get a reward or privilege in the form of money for
performing those elements.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




And Morse isn't an element of my operating, but I had to take a test in it.
That's like having to take a typing test and then having a secretary to do
your typing.

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"Dee Flint" wrote in
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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
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"Dee Flint" wrote in
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"robert casey" wrote in message
ink.net...


Earn your priviliges. It isn't impossible.


Just be sure that the things one needs to do to earn the
privileges are revalent to modern ham radio.

Why should ham radio be different than other activities? Most of
the things we do to gain privileges in this world are not relevant
to the privilege itself.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




Oh, so everything else is messed up, so ham radio should be messed
up too? Even if I thought it were true, that would still be the
worst argument I have heard yet, ROTFLMAO!



It does not mean that things are messed up. It is simply a fact that
a very effective way to motivate people to do something that they
don't want to do is to tie it to a privilege that they very much
want. Parents do it all the time.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




So treat prospective hams like errant children?

No not at all. Let's use a workplace example instead. Many people,
even if they like their jobs, do have elements of the work they don't
like. However they get a reward or privilege in the form of money for
performing those elements.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




And Morse isn't an element of my operating, but I had to take a test in
it.
That's like having to take a typing test and then having a secretary to do
your typing.

Well that example proves the point that you don't know what you may need or
want in the future as secretaries are now going the way of the dodo bird in
large part. Almost all employees that have a need to do correspondence do
their own these days in any company that I have been in. The company I work
for right now let their last secretary go about four years ago.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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"robert casey" wrote in message
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Earn your priviliges. It isn't impossible.


Just be sure that the things one needs to do to earn the
privileges are revalent to modern ham radio.

Why should ham radio be different than other activities? Most of
the things we do to gain privileges in this world are not
relevant to the privilege itself.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




Oh, so everything else is messed up, so ham radio should be messed
up too? Even if I thought it were true, that would still be the
worst argument I have heard yet, ROTFLMAO!



It does not mean that things are messed up. It is simply a fact
that a very effective way to motivate people to do something that
they don't want to do is to tie it to a privilege that they very
much want. Parents do it all the time.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




So treat prospective hams like errant children?

No not at all. Let's use a workplace example instead. Many people,
even if they like their jobs, do have elements of the work they don't
like. However they get a reward or privilege in the form of money for
performing those elements.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




And Morse isn't an element of my operating, but I had to take a test
in it. That's like having to take a typing test and then having a
secretary to do your typing.

Well that example proves the point that you don't know what you may
need or want in the future as secretaries are now going the way of the
dodo bird in large part. Almost all employees that have a need to do
correspondence do their own these days in any company that I have been
in. The company I work for right now let their last secretary go about
four years ago.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE





Maybe that's a poor example. Perhaps it's more like learning typing to be a
basketball player.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:25:32 -0500, Dee Flint wrote:

Well that example proves the point that you don't know what you may need or
want in the future as secretaries are now going the way of the dodo bird in
large part. Almost all employees that have a need to do correspondence do
their own these days in any company that I have been in. The company I work
for right now let their last secretary go about four years ago.

Yeah - most of those who remain have now been retitled as "program
assistants". Some are decent administrators, and some are still
go-fers......

One exception is my daughter-in-law's mother. She's the secretary
to the senior named partner of the biggest law firm in the Pacific
Northwest, and still does the correspondence typing. Of course, her
boss is nearly 90 years old, but still sharp as a tack, I understand.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Well that example proves the point that you don't know what you may need or
want in the future as secretaries are now going the way of the dodo bird in
large part. Almost all employees that have a need to do correspondence do
their own these days in any company that I have been in. The company I work
for right now let their last secretary go about four years ago.


And we all use word processor software to do that writing. Cut
and paste, fix spelling errors, rewrite something that was weak,
and such. Back in the olden days secretaries took care of
typing stuff onto paper without error. Today we write on computers,
edit and whatnot, and once we have it the way we want it, send
the file to the printer. One pretty much had to do that
via longhand on paper notepads that would then be given to
the secretary to type up. She would fix the spelling errors
and some of the grammar and hopefully not munge the concepts.
And if that did happen we'd have to get that part retyped.
Took forever.

There are technical writers who rewrite engineer writing
into something hopefully better written. But the engineer
has to review it to be sure that the meaning didn't get
munged.

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"robert casey" wrote in message
ink.net...


Earn your priviliges. It isn't impossible.


Just be sure that the things one needs to do to earn the
privileges are revalent to modern ham radio.

Why should ham radio be different than other activities? Most
of
the things we do to gain privileges in this world are not
relevant
to the privilege itself.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




Oh, so everything else is messed up, so ham radio should be
messed
up too? Even if I thought it were true, that would still be the
worst argument I have heard yet, ROTFLMAO!



It does not mean that things are messed up. It is simply a fact
that
a very effective way to motivate people to do something that
they
don't want to do is to tie it to a privilege that they very much
want. Parents do it all the time.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




So treat prospective hams like errant children?

No not at all. Let's use a workplace example instead. Many
people,
even if they like their jobs, do have elements of the work they
don't
like. However they get a reward or privilege in the form of money
for
performing those elements.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




And Morse isn't an element of my operating, but I had to take a
test in
it.
That's like having to take a typing test and then having a
secretary to do
your typing.

Well that example proves the point that you don't know what you may
need or
want in the future as secretaries are now going the way of the dodo
bird in
large part. Almost all employees that have a need to do
correspondence do
their own these days in any company that I have been in. The company
I work
for right now let their last secretary go about four years ago.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Probably why much business correspondence is just so much mumbo jumbo,
or maybe it was outsourced to China.

"Alun L. Palmer" wrote:

And Morse isn't an element of my operating, but I had to take a test in it.
That's like having to take a typing test and then having a secretary to do
your typing.

Is it like that? Perhaps you can hire a qualified morse op to send and
receive code for you.

Dave K8MN