N9OGL wrote:
Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
N9OGL,
Helo Ashley,
Instead of wasting your time, effort & money on a pirate TV
station,
fighting the FCC (our ACA isn't much better btw) why not volunteer
your time
and expertise to the local community radio and television stations
as
I do?
Not only could you broadcast what you want, you could help save the
community station thousands of dollars by carrying out free
maintained and
repairs. I leave my broadcasting to broadcast services and amateur
to
amateur.


Our community has one FM broadcast station and no television station.
The local station will not allow you go in and run a show on their
station. My group in the 90's tried starting a low power tv station
for
the purpose of allowing people in the community to use it. unlike
someone (K4YZ) who thinks it's all about me.

Sure it is "all about (you)", Todd.

We also have a "Public Access" channel unfortunately the cable
company has complete control over it. (something they are not allowed
to do).

Sure they can. They own the cable, the studios, the equipment,
etc.

What makes you think they can't exercise control over thier own
assets, Todd?

My group has tried repeatively to get programs on the public
access channel (including programs from the University of Illinois
and
the University of Chicago) but the cable company refuses to allow us
access to the channel. We complain to the city and the cable comes
back
say Oh we will give you access but lets wait for a few months and we
will call you. when the few months are up the proccess starts all
over
again.

You're profane, demanding, poorly organized, functionally
illiterate and rude.

What part of those personal traits do you think the cable company
finds endearing?

And two questions for US ppl on he 1) Why does the cable channel
control
community television? In Melbourne UHF Ch 31 is community tv, and
is
run by
Melbourne's Uni's as an independent organisation.


Public Access channels are created through the franchise agreement.
Cable companies are not allowed to have any editorial control over
the
channel. However, there are some cable companies and in some places
local governments who censor and "control" the access channel.

The FCC has stated that communities have the right to determine the
nature of content of what airs on thier communities systems.

Obviously someone in Taylorville is unimpressed with your ability
to meet community standards, Todd.

Judging by the way you represent yourself in this forum, I'd say
they are spot-on.

2) Why does the ARRL handbook list cable channels on your
free-to-air
tv
bandplan. Yes, we have cable tv, but our system is ABC 2 (VK's
BBC),
HSV 7,
GTV 9, ATV 10, SBS 28 & UNI 31 on the normal tv (just plug an
antenna
into
the set and tune) plus cable via Coax (Fox only downunder). If I
wanted to
do a show on Channel 31, I could, what's broadcast is up to Uni's
Student
Union, not a tv company.

Perhaps by 'time travel' N9OGL is referring to the fact that when
USA
hams
QSOs with hams Down Under or in New Zealand you are speaking to us
tommorow
and we are speaking to you yesterday


Technical your right there I remember getting off work at 5.00 pm
and getting on the radio and talk to a guy in Japan who was on his
way
to work, it was 7.00 am the next day there. The "time travel" I was
talking about will be posted on my invention blog along with
explainations of some of my other idea's these so-called hams bad
mouth.

It's not badmouthing, Todd.

You suggested using a storage capacitor cooled by liquid oxygen.
That was stupid on so many levels as to be hillarious.

And in the realm of communications, you "propose" a
networking/datalink system that is several developmental generations
BEHIND current technology.

They are not "inventions"...They are really bad ideas. I just hope
I am at least 500 miles away from your power capacitor project if you
ever try to buid it.

Big Snip:

N9OGL, if you have an Echo or IRLP node nearby would you like me to
connect
to it and give a demonstration on this. No point having a broadcast
of any
description until you have the fundamentals in place-grammar,
pronunciation,
spelling, don't bother, it's hard enough to capture a (any)
audience
with
these traits.

I'm usually on echolink, my repeater is also tied into it. The
echolink
on the repeater is off by my personal station is up.

Yes, Todd...you still have yet to tell us about all those
homebrew/kitbuilt features of N9OGL...remember..?!?! You were
"badmouthing" all those "appliance operators"...??? You have yet to
give us an accounting of your station or repeater lineup.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
N9OGL,
Helo Ashley,
Instead of wasting your time, effort & money on a pirate TV
station,
fighting the FCC (our ACA isn't much better btw) why not
volunteer
your time
and expertise to the local community radio and television
stations
as
I do?
Not only could you broadcast what you want, you could help save
the
community station thousands of dollars by carrying out free
maintained and
repairs. I leave my broadcasting to broadcast services and
amateur
to
amateur.


Our community has one FM broadcast station and no television
station.
The local station will not allow you go in and run a show on their
station. My group in the 90's tried starting a low power tv station
for
the purpose of allowing people in the community to use it. unlike
someone (K4YZ) who thinks it's all about me.

Sure it is "all about (you)", Todd.

Steve, no, your very wrong, very wrong.

We also have a "Public Access" channel unfortunately the cable
company has complete control over it. (something they are not
allowed
to do).

Sure they can. They own the cable, the studios, the equipment,
etc.

What makes you think they can't exercise control over thier own
assets, Todd?

The only "power" the cable company has over the content is setting what
time the program may air and the availability of the channel. As for
studio and equipmet, the only equipment that have is a VCR hooked into
the cable line. They don't have any "Studio" and as for cable, the
local goverment created public access in turn the cable company was
given the "right of way" The problem here is NO ONE is allowed to use
the "public access" channel. But if you want to more about what
controls cable comapnies have over "public access" go talk to Media
Alliance @ http://www.media-alliance.org/

My group has tried repeatively to get programs on the public
access channel (including programs from the University of Illinois
and
the University of Chicago) but the cable company refuses to allow
us
access to the channel. We complain to the city and the cable comes
back
say Oh we will give you access but lets wait for a few months and
we
will call you. when the few months are up the proccess starts all
over
again.

You're profane, demanding, poorly organized, functionally
illiterate and rude.

What part of those personal traits do you think the cable company
finds endearing?


Well steve, again your wrong, I'm a hell of lot nicer to them then to
some dumbas ham operators who bad mouth people on a "Usenet"


And two questions for US ppl on he 1) Why does the cable
channel
control
community television? In Melbourne UHF Ch 31 is community tv, and
is
run by
Melbourne's Uni's as an independent organisation.


Public Access channels are created through the franchise agreement.
Cable companies are not allowed to have any editorial control over
the
channel. However, there are some cable companies and in some places
local governments who censor and "control" the access channel.

The FCC has stated that communities have the right to determine
the
nature of content of what airs on thier communities systems.

The FCC has no juridiction over public access channels, that is let up
to the community who, in term is to have available to the public what
the rules and regulations of the public access channel is; which this
group doesn't.


Obviously someone in Taylorville is unimpressed with your
ability
to meet community standards, Todd.

First of dickead, I happen to be a very very very old friend of the
mayor of this community, before him it was my uncle who ran this town.
(my family is very political) Secondly the cable company has been in
trouble with the mayors office because of this matter. Recently my
group filed a complaint on behave of a small church who didn't want to
start trouble. The complaint was the church wanted to use the public
access channel for their services but the cable comapny told them they
were switching the public access channel over to Beta format. For the
small church to now use the channel they would have to spend out
$14,000 on equipment, money they didn't have. So when I had a meeting
with the mayor it came to our attention that not only where the
church's complaining but the schools were too. to make a long story
short the city told the cable comapny if they did switch to beta that
the city would cancel their franchise agreement....so the cable didn't
switch formats.


Judging by the way you represent yourself in this forum, I'd say
they are spot-on.

2) Why does the ARRL handbook list cable channels on your
free-to-air
tv
bandplan. Yes, we have cable tv, but our system is ABC 2 (VK's
BBC),
HSV 7,
GTV 9, ATV 10, SBS 28 & UNI 31 on the normal tv (just plug an
antenna
into
the set and tune) plus cable via Coax (Fox only downunder). If I
wanted to
do a show on Channel 31, I could, what's broadcast is up to Uni's
Student
Union, not a tv company.

Perhaps by 'time travel' N9OGL is referring to the fact that when
USA
hams
QSOs with hams Down Under or in New Zealand you are speaking to
us
tommorow
and we are speaking to you yesterday


Technical your right there I remember getting off work at 5.00
pm
and getting on the radio and talk to a guy in Japan who was on his
way
to work, it was 7.00 am the next day there. The "time travel" I
was
talking about will be posted on my invention blog along with
explainations of some of my other idea's these so-called hams bad
mouth.

It's not badmouthing, Todd.

You suggested using a storage capacitor cooled by liquid oxygen.
That was stupid on so many levels as to be hillarious.

What's wrong with that, liquid Oxygen can be used as a coolent as well
as rocket fuel. The coolent is no where near a spark and the coolent
circulates through pipes around the displacement chamber, between two
sets of walls. (not the capacitor as you keep claiming)


And in the realm of communications, you "propose" a
networking/datalink system that is several developmental generations
BEHIND current technology.

REALLY dickhead, what amateur stations are running what i'm
purposing.......NONE!!!! steve, I think your stupid, or lying, but I do
think you don't get all the facts

They are not "inventions"...They are really bad ideas. I just
hope
I am at least 500 miles away from your power capacitor project if you
ever try to buid it.

I would point out steve, that what's on that website is NOT the
complete system, and I will not post the compete system on here or on
that website. So there really is more to then what I'm ALLOWED to say.


Big Snip:

N9OGL, if you have an Echo or IRLP node nearby would you like me
to
connect
to it and give a demonstration on this. No point having a
broadcast
of any
description until you have the fundamentals in place-grammar,
pronunciation,
spelling, don't bother, it's hard enough to capture a (any)
audience
with
these traits.

I'm usually on echolink, my repeater is also tied into it. The
echolink
on the repeater is off by my personal station is up.

Yes, Todd...you still have yet to tell us about all those
homebrew/kitbuilt features of N9OGL...remember..?!?! You were
"badmouthing" all those "appliance operators"...??? You have yet to
give us an accounting of your station or repeater lineup.


frankly steve, the way you've treated not only me or anyone else one
here. I'm not under any obligation to tell YOU or anyone else what
equipment I have, the bottom line is, I DO build things, a lot more
then what you think.



Todd N9OGL
Steve, K4YZ

N9OGL wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:

Sure it is "all about (you)", Todd.

Steve, no, your very wrong, very wrong.

No, I'm not.

What makes you think they can't exercise control over thier
own
assets, Todd?

The only "power" the cable company has over the content is setting
what
time the program may air and the availability of the channel. As for
studio and equipmet, the only equipment that have is a VCR hooked
into
the cable line. They don't have any "Studio" and as for cable, the
local goverment created public access in turn the cable company was
given the "right of way" The problem here is NO ONE is allowed to use
the "public access" channel. But if you want to more about what
controls cable comapnies have over "public access" go talk to Media
Alliance @ http://www.media-alliance.org/

You didn't answer my question.

Does the cable company NOT have control over thie own assets?

Yes or no wil suffice nicenly, thank-you.

You're profane, demanding, poorly organized, functionally
illiterate and rude.

What part of those personal traits do you think the cable
company
finds endearing?


Well steve, again your wrong, I'm a hell of lot nicer to them then to
some dumbas ham operators who bad mouth people on a "Usenet"

I find that very, VERY hard to believe.

The FCC has stated that communities have the right to determine
the
nature of content of what airs on thier communities systems.

The FCC has no juridiction over public access channels, that is let
up
to the community who, in term is to have available to the public what
the rules and regulations of the public access channel is; which this
group doesn't.

I didn't say the FCC had jurisdiction, Todd. Please stay focused.

I said that the COMMUNITIES have the right to determine the nature
of the content in thier communities.

Obviously someone in Taylorville is unimpressed with your
ability
to meet community standards, Todd.

First of ####ead...(SNIP)

Gee...You're right, Todd. Threre's one of those "dum### hams
badmouthing people on USENET" right now!

And PROOF of what I've been saying all along.

I happen to be a very very very old friend of the
mayor of this community, before him it was my uncle who ran this
town.
(my family is very political)

Obviously not political enough.

Secondly the cable company has been in
trouble with the mayors office because of this matter. Recently my
group filed a complaint on behave of a small church who didn't want
to
start trouble.

On "behalf", Todd.

And I am sure if they knew what a swell guy you REALLY are, they
wouldn't have bothered.

The complaint was the church wanted to use the public
access channel for their services but the cable comapny told them
they
were switching the public access channel over to Beta format. For the
small church to now use the channel they would have to spend out
$14,000 on equipment, money they didn't have. So when I had a meeting
with the mayor it came to our attention that not only where the
church's complaining but the schools were too. to make a long story
short the city told the cable comapny if they did switch to beta that
the city would cancel their franchise agreement....so the cable
didn't
switch formats.

And this pertains to your operation of illegal "broadcast stations"
how?


It's not badmouthing, Todd.

You suggested using a storage capacitor cooled by liquid
oxygen.
That was stupid on so many levels as to be hillarious.

What's wrong with that, liquid Oxygen can be used as a coolent as
well
as rocket fuel. The coolent is no where near a spark and the coolent
circulates through pipes around the displacement chamber, between two
sets of walls. (not the capacitor as you keep claiming)

Doesn't matter, Todd...LOX is not used as a refrigerant because
it's an O X I D I Z E R. It makes things burn, in some cases very
rapidly (please see any film clip of a Saturn 5 rocket ascending).

And if you plan on using LOX A N Y W H E R E near an electrical
source, you are introducing an I G N I T I O N source.

Now, going back to ELEMENTARY SCHOOL scinence, guess what happens
when you mix an oxidizer, an ignition source, and any FUEL...???

And in the realm of communications, you "propose" a
networking/datalink system that is several developmental
generations
BEHIND current technology.

REALLY ####head...(SNIP)

There's that " dum### ham badmouthing people on USENET" again....

...(UNSNIP)...what amateur stations are running what i'm
purposing.......NONE!!!! steve, I think your stupid, or lying, but I
do
think you don't get all the facts

Oh, I have all the "facts", OK, Todd.

I didn't say ANYthing about "amateur stations"...

I said your protocol is several developmental generations behind
current technology. That's NOT untrue.

They are not "inventions"...They are really bad ideas. I just
hope
I am at least 500 miles away from your power capacitor project if
you
ever try to buid it.

I would point out steve, that what's on that website is NOT the
complete system, and I will not post the compete system on here or on
that website. So there really is more to then what I'm ALLOWED to
say.

You're not "allowed" to say...?!?!

BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
! ! ! !

Yes, Todd...you still have yet to tell us about all those
homebrew/kitbuilt features of N9OGL...remember..?!?! You were
"badmouthing" all those "appliance operators"...??? You have yet
to
give us an accounting of your station or repeater lineup.


frankly steve, the way you've treated not only me or anyone else one
here. I'm not under any obligation to tell YOU or anyone else what
equipment I have, the bottom line is, I DO build things, a lot more
then what you think.

Frankly, Todd, this is EXACTLY the answer I expected.

The "bottom line" is you can't build a kit unless the instructions
are written in crayon and it has those little cartoon pictures of
people doing things so you can follow along.

You've had over a week to pony up all your non-"appliance" station
line-up, Todd, and it's taken you THIS long to figure a way to weasel
your way out of the corner you've backed yourself into.

Nice try. It didn't work.

Steve, K4YZ

You didn't answer my question.

Does the cable company NOT have control over thie own assets?
Yes or no wil suffice nicenly, thank-you.

The ONLY POWER A CABLE COMAPNY HAS OVER THE CONTENT IS THE AVABILITY OF
THE CHANNEL( I.E. SET UP THE TIME THE PROGRAM IS TO AIR) AND THAT'S
IT!!!

I didn't say the FCC had jurisdiction, Todd. Please stay focused.

I said that the COMMUNITIES have the right to determine the nature
of the content in thier communities

But it isn't the community that's the problem, it's a cable company
that doesn't want ANYONE from using the public access channel.

Gee...You're right, Todd. Threre's one of those "dum### hams
badmouthing people on USENET" right now!

And PROOF of what I've been saying all along.

Well steve if you weren't such an asshole, perhaps I would treat you a
little nicer.

And I am sure if they knew what a swell guy you REALLY are, they
wouldn't have bothered.

I'm a hell a lot nicer then you think, again if your weren't an asshole
I would be a little nicer.

And this pertains to your operation of illegal "broadcast stations"
how?

It don't, I was pointing out that the cable company has been in trouble
with the city for repeative violation peoples free speech on the public
access channel.

Doesn't matter, Todd...LOX is not used as a refrigerant because
it's an O X I D I Z E R. It makes things burn, in some cases very
rapidly (please see any film clip of a Saturn 5 rocket ascending).


And if you plan on using LOX A N Y W H E R E near an electrical
source, you are introducing an I G N I T I O N source.

Now, going back to ELEMENTARY SCHOOL scinence, guess what happens
when you mix an oxidizer, an ignition source, and any FUEL...???

ok, then I'll use liquid Nitrogen then.

I said your protocol is several developmental generations behind
current technology. That's NOT untrue.

The whole idea is to make an alternative system on the amateur bands
but Nazi's like you try to stop new modes of communications on the
amateur band.

Todd N9OGL

N9OGL wrote:
You didn't answer my question.

Does the cable company NOT have control over thie own assets?
Yes or no wil suffice nicenly, thank-you.

The ONLY POWER A CABLE COMAPNY HAS OVER THE CONTENT IS THE AVABILITY
OF
THE CHANNEL( I.E. SET UP THE TIME THE PROGRAM IS TO AIR) AND THAT'S
IT!!!

Stop screaming and slow down. You already type like a fool and
you only get worse when you act this way.

I didn't say the FCC had jurisdiction, Todd. Please stay focused.

I said that the COMMUNITIES have the right to determine the nature
of the content in thier communities

But it isn't the community that's the problem, it's a cable company
that doesn't want ANYONE from using the public access channel.

The cable company is IN the community (or close to it).

Gee...You're right, Todd. Threre's one of those "dum### hams
badmouthing people on USENET" right now!

And PROOF of what I've been saying all along.

Well steve if you weren't such an ###hole, perhaps I would treat you
a
little nicer.

No problem, Todd. You're an immature, developmentally delayed
adult, and I realize it. I keep prodding you in an attempt to get you
to realize your own shortcomings, but you just respond with more
screaming and more profanity.

In other words, you prove my point.

And I am sure if they knew what a swell guy you REALLY are, they
wouldn't have bothered.

I'm a hell a lot nicer then you think, again if your weren't an
###hole
I would be a little nicer.

I could care less HOW nice you could be.

You're profane, immature and technically incompetent. Call ME
all the names you care to, Todd...it WON'T change THOSE facts.

And this pertains to your operation of illegal "broadcast stations"
how?

It don't, I was pointing out that the cable company has been in
trouble
with the city for repeative violation peoples free speech on the
public
access channel.

And I say they are doing the community a favor by keeping a
profane, immature, technically incompetent idiot away from public view.

They are doing you a FAVOR Todd, but you keep trying to reprove
that you are EXACTLY what everyone else says you are.

Doesn't matter, Todd...LOX is not used as a refrigerant because
it's an O X I D I Z E R. It makes things burn, in some cases very
rapidly (please see any film clip of a Saturn 5 rocket ascending).


And if you plan on using LOX A N Y W H E R E near an electrical
source, you are introducing an I G N I T I O N source.

Now, going back to ELEMENTARY SCHOOL scinence, guess what happens
when you mix an oxidizer, an ignition source, and any FUEL...???

ok, then I'll use liquid Nitrogen then.

It's only taken you three weeks to wake up to THAT error.

Now if we can get you to work on the others......

I said your protocol is several developmental generations behind
current technology. That's NOT untrue.

The whole idea is to make an alternative system on the amateur bands
but Nazi's like you try to stop new modes of communications on the
amateur band.

I am not a Nazi, Todd.

And a "new mode of communications" that is several developmental
generations BEHIND current technology is NOT what Amateur Radio needs.

Steve, K4YZ

Let's have Toddy use LOX to cool a spark gap xmtr. He can use the
Tesla coil secondary @ 1.4MV and he can convert himself down to his
level instead of getting all puffed up on here.

N9OGL wrote:

Steve K4YZ wrote:

Doesn't matter, Todd...LOX is not used as a refrigerant because
it's an O X I D I Z E R. It makes things burn, in some cases very
rapidly (please see any film clip of a Saturn 5 rocket ascending).

And if you plan on using LOX A N Y W H E R E near an electrical
source, you are introducing an I G N I T I O N source.

Now, going back to ELEMENTARY SCHOOL scinence, guess what happens
when you mix an oxidizer, an ignition source, and any FUEL...???

ok, then I'll use liquid Nitrogen then.

I hear Emily Litella pronouncing, "Never mind" over Todd's adjustment.

I said your protocol is several developmental generations behind
current technology. That's NOT untrue.

The whole idea is to make an alternative system on the amateur bands
but Nazi's like you try to stop new modes of communications on the
amateur band.

Steve keeps attempting to use his power to keep Todd from looking like a
complete boob.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
N9OGL wrote:

The whole idea is to make an alternative system on the amateur
bands
but Nazi's like you try to stop new modes of communications on the
amateur band.

Steve keeps attempting to use his power to keep Todd from looking
like a
complete boob.

I'm pedalling as fast as I can, Dave, and I think I am
catching up...He's cutting back on his caps locked rants and us of
"mother######" and "dick####"...

Maybe...just m a y b e ..........

Steve, K4YZ

N9OGL wrote:




But it isn't the community that's the problem, it's a cable company
that doesn't want ANYONE from using the public access channel.

"doesn't want ANYONE from using the public access channel." Can someone
make an attempt to decipher that?

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
N9OGL wrote:




But it isn't the community that's the problem, it's a cable company
that doesn't want ANYONE from using the public access channel.

"doesn't want ANYONE from using the public access channel." Can
someone
make an attempt to decipher that?

The cable company doesn't want anyone using the public access channel.