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May 26th 05, 12:35 PM
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K4YZ wrote:
wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: wrote: Hello? This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY. Military and international socio-political politics are another group. Then why do you go off on so many tangents, Len? You seem to be afraid to have a civil discussion about amateur radio policy here. In order to have a "civil discussion" on Amateur Radio policy, Lennie would have to have some sort of experience from which to make informed opinions or suggestions from. Whether the discussion is "informed" or not isn't the issue, Steve. My point was about Len's ability to have *civil* (as in well-mannered) discussion with those who disagree with him. Point taken. You're quite right. I've tried many times, but Len insists on responding to my disagreement with direct insults, even though I didn't insult him. Apparently he sees my disagreement as an insult. Obviously. Of course his insistance on using diminutives when you clearly address him with at least the accepted social civility demonstrates what we've been saying all along. Think about why Len does all that. I call him Len, he calls me "Jimmie boy" or some such. If I call him a similar name, I would then validate his behavior. But if I just call him Len, or Mr. Anderson, his attempt to misdirect fails. This does not mean letting his mistakes go unchallenged. Nor does it mean not calling his bull**** what it is. No one doubts his "inside the black box" knowledge, I do, Steve. Len talks a lot of nomenclature and buzzwords but when it comes to actually solving practical radio problems we don't see anything. His articles for ham radio (22 years ago) were all basic theory, not practical projects. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....Good point. And when I think back on it, Lennie fought tooth-and-nail to get involved in a meaningful discussion on microwave technology. Anybody can "discuss" with a little point-and-click research. I'm talking about actually *doing* something, such as an actual project. Len will tell you all about some piece of gear he worked on at some job years ago. But ask him what he has recently built at home, on his own time, with his own resources, and he's got nothing to show you. He'll go on and on about "some Extras" at the radio store who didn't know much about the triple loop PLL system in his R-70 - 22+ years ago. But in fact he didn't design or build the thing. Part of my persistence in trying to get him to do so, of course, was directly tied to his suggestion that he and his "engineering bretheren" had so much to offer Amateur Radio. And you bought that line? HAW! Remember the Tech Plus WA6 guy who used to lecture us here on "no setasides for legacy modes" "elitism" and "electronic paintball wars" and such? us all about his engineering expertise in radio (which is genuine, btw)? After restructuring, he went and got his Extra - then got on HF SSB with a manufactured transceiver and proceeded to work DX. He may even have DXCC by now. Also got a 2x1 vanity call. Nothing wrong with any of that but it sure was surreal. Of couse ALL he has offered Amateur Radio are arguments, name calling and the aforementioned articles in said defunct magazine. If Len were really interested in microwaves and amateur radio, he'd have gotten a license years ago. The Tech only required 5 wpm code, when it had a code test. Not THOSE I doubt were his... however he knows almost "diddly squat" about Amatuer Radio practice or policy. Not the point. It is when he's humiliating himself by making assinine assertions that are obviously not rooted in fact. So? Correct his mistakes without behaving the way he does. Or just ignore him. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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