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June 4th 05, 05:02 PM
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: KC8GXW wrote: VIPPY! Your're back! Hello Vipul. The definition you quoted says"Amateur Operator". There is no mention of the word "ham" in the definition. Oh crap....same old rhetoric...I see you haven't changed! He see's that you haven't either. "Ham" is a label given to certain people with a certain belief system. What "belief systems", Vipul...?!?! "Belief systems" is a catch-phrase you usurped from Lennie Anderson. Lennie is NOT a good role model to scam lines from. People don't have belief systems? Hams like antennas, and Morse code. They usually don't like the technical aspect of the hobby (except for antennas). (Here we go again....) (There YOU go again...) Who says so, Vipul...?!?! What organization, rule or entity made this "rule"...?!?! I've asked you this before and you've never explained yourself. Yet I see no mention of a "rule." Whatever are you talking about, Steve? They are often older, and male. So...Shall we implement euthansia and castration if a licensee dares to get older or have the wrong chromosomes...?!?! Shall you? They like to use the terminology. Uhhhhh...yyyeahhhh...It's called "communication"...In order to effectively express and exchange ideas there has to be some agreed upon language and terms relating to the intended topic, Vipul. QSL. Please name me ANY sport, science, avocation, passtime or other human pursuit that DOESN'T have 'terminology', Vipul. So amateurs have terminology and -don't- like to use it? Are you agreeing with Vipul or disagreeing with Vipul??? They like to discuss ham politics. As opposed to roast beef politics...?!?! Chicken politics. Squawk, squawk. Like saying "Lessee....430" without explanation. There are other characteristics of a ham, which I will not list. Of course not. Of course. Is it doing more then 5 wpm code? Yes, this is absolutely required to be accepted as a ham. Who says? Where is this stated? In what FCC rule or ARRL by-law is it established? Is it in invisible ink on my FCC Form 660? I disagree with Vipul on this one. Five WPM wasn't enough to be accepted as a full ham by many practioners of the ancient art. Is it being accepted by certain other hams? Hams share certain beliefs and characteristics. Baptists share certain beliefs and characteristics. So do dentists. Police, Fire and EMS personnel have their own beliefs. So do Hindus, NASCAR drivers and cat lovers. What belief system do you share? What was YOUR point? What was your point in saying, "Lessee....430?" Without acceptance, one cannot be a "true" ham. Sure you can. I agree with Steve on this one. You just have to ignore the knuckle-heads that would put you down for not attaining ever higher Morse Code speeds. Lennie doesn't accept ANY of us... Not true. Does that mean we don't exist? You exist in a negative way. Once and for all, Vipul... There is no one person, group, organization, entity or "belief system" that dictates what makes a "good ham". Not according to Larry, Dick, or Kelly. Unfortunately, if only more amateur on here would come forward and condemn those who exhibit the characteristics of a "bad ham," such as yourself... Could it be the date they were first licensed, or maybe the class of license they hold now? Sorry, I do not know or understand the question. Did you need it in another language? Seemed pretty straight forward to me. Bruce has his Extra. Seems like most of the trouble-makers are Extras. As for the class of licence they hold right now, Morse code is required above the Technician class. Those in the Technician class can still be hams, as long as they agree with ham beliefs. One of those beliefs, of course, is that they will eventually learn Morse code. You keep saying this but you never explain yourself. The have to profess the faith, and frequently claim that they are "studying the Morse Code." Can somebody who gets into amateur radio today with the "give away license" ever be considered a real ham? The license is a "give away" - no disputing that. Sure there is. Todays entry level license exam contains far more breadth and depth of radio communications knowledge than any entry level license in the history of amateur radio. To the best of my knowledge no one is "given" a license. Everyone is required to take one of several written exams. If they opt to operate on HF, they must take a Morse Code exam. Captain Obvious. And despite the fact that the license IS markedly easier to get these days, people still manage to fail the exams. Ergo it's NOT a "giveaway"... Far more difficult... How did you know about the vanity license? Uhhhhhhhhhhhh...read about it? K4CAP...? Maybe it was in some of that "terminology" you seem to think is so bad... Steve, K4YZ Terminology like, "Lessee....430?" |
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