KC8GXW wrote:
But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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KC8GXW wrote:
But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give
away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you ask?
Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the person.
Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the test. A
give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of ham
radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and don't
want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

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KC8GXW wrote:

But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give
away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY


I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you ask?
Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the person.
Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the test. A
give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of ham
radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and don't
want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI

I can order pizza? I see what you mean now about me not knowing all the
rules and regs off the top of my head. Look what I've been missing!

.... absolutely not, that is why ham radio has failed, the old guys keep
trying to turn it into a darn religion with a bunch of traditions (or is
that an A.A. meeting?)...
We need some young active technical people to bring some technology to
the focus in this hobby and breathe some life back into it...

Warmest regards,
John

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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KC8GXW wrote:
But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a
give away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you
ask? Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the
person. Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are
on the test. A give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of
ham radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio
and don't want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI

John Smith wrote:
... absolutely not, that is why ham radio has failed, the old guys keep
trying to turn it into a darn religion with a bunch of traditions (or is
that an A.A. meeting?)...
We need some young active technical people to bring some technology to
the focus in this hobby and breathe some life back into it...

So, are you a ham?

Hello, John

You've seen technical knowledge amongst the new folks? Glad you've seen
some. As to me, I like to rag-chew. Like I did with that professor from
the U of R concerning theoretical physics. Of course, he's an old guy too
....

My neighbor called me again last week. Make that week before last.

Seems her computer is on the fritz. The last time she had taken it to a
"tech" who simply ran the restore disk. No more partitions - and he didn't
even put the antivirus nor firewall back in! It took me two trips and
probably 3 hours to fix the bloody thing. Not to mention putting a second
partition on the drive and trying to organize it a bit.

She got a "copy" of XP (notice the quotes - take it any way you wish). This
was perhaps 4 months ago.

Well, she called (it will be two weeks this coming Thursday) and her
compooter is all bogged down. I told her I was busy, but I'd call.

Well, I'd plead Alzheimer's, but obviously I remember telling her that.
Maybe I'm too busy. In any case, I think she should take that thing back to
the young buck that "fixes" 'em and chargers her for his time (which I did
*not*).

Tell ya what, the old coots can and do learn.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me )



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
(first licensed in 1962 and had 1st radiotelephone in 1966 along with a
commercial telegraph license - but don't know anything, obviously LOL)

ps - there is no respect for technically oriented folks in this country.
This is slowly being reflected by the drop folks opting for engineering
degrees. Everyone wants to be a lawyer or engineer.



"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... absolutely not, that is why ham radio has failed, the old guys keep
trying to turn it into a darn religion with a bunch of traditions (or is
that an A.A. meeting?)...
We need some young active technical people to bring some technology to
the focus in this hobby and breathe some life back into it...

Warmest regards,
John

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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KC8GXW wrote:
But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a
give away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you
ask? Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the
person. Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are
on the test. A give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of
ham radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio
and don't want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI

We have plenty of hi-tech stuff going on in Amateur Radio. Just not all
that much at HF or on the two meter CB band of FM machines.

Just off the top of my head.....ever hear of AMSAT? You know those
satellite thingy's?

Or how about digital voice on HF? Digital SlowScan? Or for that matter
digital fast scan TV? Then of course the utter glut of new and experimental
digital modes....too many to even talk about here. Then don't forget the
EME (moonbounce) with WSJT program that allows you to do what it took a KW
and 4 / 16 element phased yagis to do just a decade ago, with only 150
watts OR LESS?

So lets not talk about hams not doing anything technical.

Next BS line.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... absolutely not, that is why ham radio has failed, the old guys keep
trying to turn it into a darn religion with a bunch of traditions (or is
that an A.A. meeting?)...
We need some young active technical people to bring some technology to the
focus in this hobby and breathe some life back into it...

Warmest regards,
John

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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KC8GXW wrote:
But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give
away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you ask?
Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the person.
Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the test.
A give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of ham
radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and
don't want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI

Hello, Dan

How about 85 watts on 24 GHz?

Naw, nothing technical going on in amateur radio.

Just plug the mic thingy in here and stick the antenna thingy in there.

)


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
k.net...
We have plenty of hi-tech stuff going on in Amateur Radio. Just not all
that much at HF or on the two meter CB band of FM machines.

Just off the top of my head.....ever hear of AMSAT? You know those
satellite thingy's?

Or how about digital voice on HF? Digital SlowScan? Or for that matter
digital fast scan TV? Then of course the utter glut of new and
experimental
digital modes....too many to even talk about here. Then don't forget the
EME (moonbounce) with WSJT program that allows you to do what it took a KW
and 4 / 16 element phased yagis to do just a decade ago, with only 150
watts OR LESS?

So lets not talk about hams not doing anything technical.

Next BS line.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

KC8GXW wrote:

But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give
away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY


I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you ask?
Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the person.
Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the test. A
give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of ham
radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and don't
want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI



Is there really any need for much technical knowledge to obtain a ham
license anymore? Why a need for technical knowlege when setting up and
operating a station today is simply plug-an-play? How many hams constuct
any equipment they use on the air any more? The most tech knowledge that
might be required is maybe how to build and put up and adjust an
antenna. Perhaps the test should focus more on rules, regulations and
proper operating procedures. The most technical that hams get today is
knowing how many frequencies they can store in the radios memory.

As you say Dan, with the joke they use for testing today, no technical
knowledge is required anyway, just memorize the answers to the questions
and off you go. So maybe if the tests were geared more to regs and
operating procedures, then even with the memoriziation some of it might
soak in and maybe there would less cb type operating on the ham bands.

It is pretty bad when as I heard not long ago on a 2 meter reperter, "I
just got my license, can someone tell me what frequencies I can
operate?" Cheeese.

Even wogie wussman passed the test, that in itself speaks volumns about
how easy the they are.

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

KC8GXW wrote:

But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give
away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY


I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you ask?
Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the
person.
Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the
test. A
give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of ham
radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and
don't
want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI



Is there really any need for much technical knowledge to obtain a ham
license anymore? Why a need for technical knowlege when setting up and
operating a station today is simply plug-an-play? How many hams constuct
any equipment they use on the air any more? The most tech knowledge that
might be required is maybe how to build and put up and adjust an
antenna. Perhaps the test should focus more on rules, regulations and
proper operating procedures. The most technical that hams get today is
knowing how many frequencies they can store in the radios memory.

As you say Dan, with the joke they use for testing today, no technical
knowledge is required anyway, just memorize the answers to the questions
and off you go. So maybe if the tests were geared more to regs and
operating procedures, then even with the memoriziation some of it might
soak in and maybe there would less cb type operating on the ham bands.

It is pretty bad when as I heard not long ago on a 2 meter reperter, "I
just got my license, can someone tell me what frequencies I can
operate?" Cheeese.

Even wogie wussman passed the test, that in itself speaks volumns about
how easy the they are.


Hi, gang

Well, I am at a loss to reply to one post. The gentleman asked about the
necessity of needing an rf bridge to measure the impedance of his antenna.
He asked if he could simply use an ohm meter.

He is a general. I think. Maybe an extra ...

My honest belief is that folks should understand reactance and resistance to
obtain a general class license. We aren't talking brain surgery here.

My concern is not over cw as it is really an old mode of transmission;
however, that should not excuse folks from learning at least the basics of
theory.

I'm still contemplating a further post on a Hammond Organ site. One guy
wants to replace an impedance transformer and a tube amp with a solid state
amp. He seems concerned with "reflected power". My guess is that he is a
newly minted general or extra class licensee. I did reply that I'd suggest
only replacing the pre-amp and leave the impedance matching transformer. It
will be easier. I just don't know how to explain about emitter followers or
igfets (or mosfets, whatever). If he is licensed, it should be a no-brainer
at audio frequencies (only to around 6 kHz at that!), but his concern about
"reflected power" really leaves me brain-boggled. Of course, he might have
several miles of feedline between the transformer and pre-amp, but I sort of
doubt that.

As to frequencies, anyone can transmit on any frequency. As to what
frequencies the *may* legally operate on, that is another question - and one
that individual should know. Or, at least have the reference materials
around so he/she doesn't have to ask. It would be like going into an
operating room for an operation and hearing the doctor ask "what is a
scalpel?".

Gaaaaaah! Which way to the exit?



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA