"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... that almost makes me miss the ancient drums my
great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-etc. ancestors used to
use to communicate with in the primordial jungles... I wonder if we
could bring those back to?

... perhaps require the new licensees to beat out a fancy tempo on one
of those turkeys before we gave 'em a license!
evil-grin

Warmest regards,
John


Perhaps, John


But consider that some of us can send and receive cw faster than most folks
can type.

I know you may be good at "cut and paste", but that doesn't necessarily cut
it LOL.

Sure, voice appears faster, but when you get names and addresses that are
hard to pronounce ....

Not saying that CW is the best, but some folks better come up with something
superior to AM and FM. There are a number of modes, but most folks want to
"talk". That won't cut it for 85 watt moonbounce on 24 GHz.




73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
ps - when I talk send and receive cw faster than some folks type, I'm not
talking a nice, leisurely chat at 30 or 35 words per minute ...

It was never about anyone stopping you from sending cw was it...

It is about stopping you from forcing others to learn cw when they would
never use it...

Always when one is being forced to do something they do not wish to,
they should question everything in sight... just as you began when you
thought someone was going to force you to quit...

.... let's at least keep my comment about the drums straight...

Warmest regards,
John

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... that almost makes me miss the ancient drums my
great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-etc. ancestors used
to
use to communicate with in the primordial jungles... I wonder if we
could bring those back to?

... perhaps require the new licensees to beat out a fancy tempo on
one
of those turkeys before we gave 'em a license!
evil-grin

Warmest regards,
John


Perhaps, John


But consider that some of us can send and receive cw faster than most
folks
can type.

I know you may be good at "cut and paste", but that doesn't
necessarily cut
it LOL.

Sure, voice appears faster, but when you get names and addresses that
are
hard to pronounce ....

Not saying that CW is the best, but some folks better come up with
something
superior to AM and FM. There are a number of modes, but most folks
want to
"talk". That won't cut it for 85 watt moonbounce on 24 GHz.




73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
ps - when I talk send and receive cw faster than some folks type, I'm
not
talking a nice, leisurely chat at 30 or 35 words per minute ...

John Smith wrote:
It was never about anyone stopping you from sending cw was it...

It is about stopping you from forcing others to learn cw when they would
never use it...

Always when one is being forced to do something they do not wish to,
they should question everything in sight... just as you began when you
thought someone was going to force you to quit...

... let's at least keep my comment about the drums straight...

By the very nature of "testing" we are "forced" to do something we
generally don't want to do.

When I took my General, I had no intent on doing any RTTY operation
yet had to know RTTY theory and practice.

Good news is that now you don't HAVE to "learn" anything...Just
memorize those quesitons and answers...Whish is what gives me a good
laugh with the more arrogant NCT types (read that Lennie...)

They are "OK" with open pools and memorized tests, but they hate
memorized sounds...what's up with that? Sheesh...the FCC even delete
the requirement to demonstrate SENDING the Code.

There's no more work to memorizing the Code than there is to
memorizing the written questions...Unless you have a VALID medical
decicit.

Steve, K4YZ

.... absolutely not... I work with young men who take great pride in
their ability to pass difficult tests with ease... who are thankful for
their gifted IQ's...

.... but who see no reason to learn code... indeed, the courses which
they take, and their level of education make any amateur exam look
trivial...

Warmest regards,
John
"K4YZ" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
It was never about anyone stopping you from sending cw was it...

It is about stopping you from forcing others to learn cw when they
would
never use it...

Always when one is being forced to do something they do not wish to,
they should question everything in sight... just as you began when
you
thought someone was going to force you to quit...

... let's at least keep my comment about the drums straight...

By the very nature of "testing" we are "forced" to do something we
generally don't want to do.

When I took my General, I had no intent on doing any RTTY operation
yet had to know RTTY theory and practice.

Good news is that now you don't HAVE to "learn" anything...Just
memorize those quesitons and answers...Whish is what gives me a good
laugh with the more arrogant NCT types (read that Lennie...)

They are "OK" with open pools and memorized tests, but they hate
memorized sounds...what's up with that? Sheesh...the FCC even delete
the requirement to demonstrate SENDING the Code.

There's no more work to memorizing the Code than there is to
memorizing the written questions...Unless you have a VALID medical
decicit.

Steve, K4YZ

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:20:13 -0700, John Smith wrote:

.... absolutely not... I work with young men who take great pride in
their ability to pass difficult tests with ease... who are thankful for
their gifted IQ's...

.... but who see no reason to learn code... indeed, the courses which
they take, and their level of education make any amateur exam look
trivial...

Do they think that their sweat doesn't stink????

Wait 'till they hit the course or assignment that throws them back
into the mortal realm. We've all hit that point at one time or
another....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

.... the young person of today has a much great education than his/her
counterpart of even twenty years ago...

John

"Phil Kane" wrote in message
ganews.com...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:20:13 -0700, John Smith wrote:

.... absolutely not... I work with young men who take great pride in
their ability to pass difficult tests with ease... who are thankful
for
their gifted IQ's...

.... but who see no reason to learn code... indeed, the courses which
they take, and their level of education make any amateur exam look
trivial...

Do they think that their sweat doesn't stink????

Wait 'till they hit the course or assignment that throws them back
into the mortal realm. We've all hit that point at one time or
another....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... the young person of today has a much great education than his/her
counterpart of even twenty years ago...

John


I don't know about that. Around here there are more and more dropping out,
even student's whose parents have college degrees.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Phil Kane" wrote in message
ganews.com...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:20:13 -0700, John Smith wrote:

.... absolutely not... I work with young men who take great pride in
their ability to pass difficult tests with ease... who are thankful for
their gifted IQ's...

.... but who see no reason to learn code... indeed, the courses which
they take, and their level of education make any amateur exam look
trivial...

Do they think that their sweat doesn't stink????

Wait 'till they hit the course or assignment that throws them back
into the mortal realm. We've all hit that point at one time or
another....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

John Smith wrote:
... the young person of today has a much great education than his/her
counterpart of even twenty years ago...

Yeah, some of 'em can't even make change without an electronic cash
register. Many of them read below the high school level. They have
little in the way of cultural literacy. Most are woefully inadequate in
geography. They're all sharp.

Dave K8MN

Do they think that their sweat doesn't stink????


They poop ice cream.... :-)

"Phil Kane" wrote in message
ganews.com...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:20:13 -0700, John Smith wrote:

.... absolutely not... I work with young men who take great pride in
their ability to pass difficult tests with ease... who are thankful for
their gifted IQ's...

.... but who see no reason to learn code... indeed, the courses which
they take, and their level of education make any amateur exam look
trivial...

Do they think that their sweat doesn't stink????

Wait 'till they hit the course or assignment that throws them back
into the mortal realm. We've all hit that point at one time or
another....


And it's a real shock the first time it happens.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE