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Old June 15th 05, 11:59 PM
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Dee:
"Physical skills?" You use this in reference to banging a key... you
josh right, the weakest woman in the world finds that no real task...

It is more akin to being able to whittle wood, throw a baseball or play
a musical instrument...

.... well, not even that, it is in a class all itself and deserves a
burial into history...

John

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Perhaps what bothers some people the most about the code test
is that it isn't something most people already know. And it
isn't something that can be learned by reading a book, watching
a video, etc. It's a skill, not "book learning".


That makes it a real PITA to people who are good at book
learnin' and not so hot at motor skills.


Conversely the written is a real PITA to people who are good at
physical skills but not at book learning. We've got a few around here
who breezed through the 5, 13, and 20 wpm code test but had to take
each of the writtens multiple times and they had studied hard each
time. They were not allowed to get out of the written or plead
diminished capacity or anything else. They had to do it.


In learning the code, a Ph.D in EE has to start at the same place
as a grade-schooler. And the grade schooler may learn faster and
do better! Perhaps it is this characteristic of the test - its
ability to act as a Great Equalizer - that causes some to resent
it so much.


That makes ham radio that much harder to "sell" to the
PhDs and such people. Code is something that can be
outperformed by various signaling and signal processing
methods (JPL doesn't use Morse code to communicate with
their deep space probes).


Well those PHDs had to learn the simplest of basics in their chosen
fields when they started their journeys. There is "obsolete"
information in every field that is often required learning as part of
a basic understanding of the field.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



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Old June 16th 05, 12:33 AM
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Dee:
"Physical skills?" You use this in reference to banging a key... you josh
right, the weakest woman in the world finds that no real task...

It is more akin to being able to whittle wood, throw a baseball or play a
musical instrument...

... well, not even that, it is in a class all itself and deserves a burial
into history...

John


Last time I tried it, playing a musical instrument was a physical skill as
well as throwing a basketball. You seem to confuse "skill" with "strength."

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old June 16th 05, 01:04 AM
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Dee:

Yes, I do confuse "physical" and "strength", the both inspire manual
tasks as opposed to mental tasks to me... cw is like the tying I do
here, neither requiring thought, strength or a particular skill... it
just looks like rote (brain dead) acquired learning to me...

I learned to type so I could communicate with the computer BETTER and
FASTER and LEARN more... cw does not offer me that worthwhile reward to
make me give it any such respect, devotion, or "religious worship" at
all...

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Dee:
"Physical skills?" You use this in reference to banging a key... you
josh right, the weakest woman in the world finds that no real task...

It is more akin to being able to whittle wood, throw a baseball or
play a musical instrument...

... well, not even that, it is in a class all itself and deserves a
burial into history...

John


Last time I tried it, playing a musical instrument was a physical
skill as well as throwing a basketball. You seem to confuse "skill"
with "strength."

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



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Old June 16th 05, 01:53 AM
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John Smith wrote:
Dee:

cw is like the tying I do
here, neither requiring thought, strength or a particular skill.


So you should have no trouble copying 30-40 wpm then.
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Old June 16th 05, 04:32 AM
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Buzzard Bugger:

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John

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
Dee:

cw is like the tying I do here, neither requiring thought, strength
or a particular skill.


So you should have no trouble copying 30-40 wpm then.





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