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Dee:
Certainly everyone over 50 needs to step back and let the younger men have a go--we are stagnated right now--I won't argue that point--it is MUCH too obvious... What "modes" are you using? I am using a 56k modem my son modified to modulate a transmitter... any other person able to interface an old 56k modem to their computer can get the data... now a nice 10mbs per second mode would be nice, where is some cheap equipment? John "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... John Smith wrote: I just support removing code because no new hams are using it in any meaningful numbers. I've seen plenty of new hams use Morse Code on the air. And plenty who use other modes. What information do you have to show that "no new hams are using it in any meaningful numbers." The new state of the art hams are interested in hooking a modem up and interfacing the radio to the computer... Some are - some aren't. Hook up a code key and they loose interest immediately... Depends on how you present it. And the word is "lose".... Now, a bunch of old guys who are computer illiterate have no choice than to try to amuse themselves with a damn key... Well, that leaves me out, because I'm neither old nor computer illiterate. He does not realize that it was this "bunch of old guys who are computer illiterate" who developed several of the digital modes and were some of the earliest amateurs to interface computers and radios. At work it is not the "bunch of old guys who are computer illiterate" who cannot find their way around a computer but instead the new kids fresh out of school. It's the kids who cannot seem to figure out how to use the advanced features of the spreadsheets, wordprocessors, etc until someone leads them by the hand through it. The "bunch of old guys who are computer illiterate" are the ones who explore the software and become proficient in its many features. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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![]() "John Smith" wrote in message ... Dee: Certainly everyone over 50 needs to step back and let the younger men have a go--we are stagnated right now--I won't argue that point--it is MUCH too obvious... What is obvious is that the younger people are inexperienced. You fail to realize that we need people of ALL ages involved and each contributes to the benefit of amateur radio (or any other activity for that matter). And since there is no limit on the number of hams, there is nothing stopping the younger men from getting in and developing what they wish within the technical limitations of the medium (i.e. HF cannot support ultrawide modes without causing detrimental effects on the number of people who can use the bands simultaneously). What "modes" are you using? I am using a 56k modem my son modified to modulate a transmitter... any other person able to interface an old 56k modem to their computer can get the data... now a nice 10mbs per second mode would be nice, where is some cheap equipment? You do realize that a 56k modem is no use on HF. There isn't enough bandwidth and the FCC rightly limits the speed of the digital modes. As to what I've worked, I used to do RTTY, Amtor, packet, and some others. All were deadly boring. I've put the equipment away to free up desk space. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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Dee:
Wide band FM is much more than enough band width--it can be done with some success on narrow band... .... even the ancient terminology "mode" is disgusting to a real engineer--hams need to get with it and realize these are "protocols"... ham radio is beginning to look like a bunch of would be "Egyptian priests" attempting control though ignorance generated by specialized terminology... John "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Dee: Certainly everyone over 50 needs to step back and let the younger men have a go--we are stagnated right now--I won't argue that point--it is MUCH too obvious... What is obvious is that the younger people are inexperienced. You fail to realize that we need people of ALL ages involved and each contributes to the benefit of amateur radio (or any other activity for that matter). And since there is no limit on the number of hams, there is nothing stopping the younger men from getting in and developing what they wish within the technical limitations of the medium (i.e. HF cannot support ultrawide modes without causing detrimental effects on the number of people who can use the bands simultaneously). What "modes" are you using? I am using a 56k modem my son modified to modulate a transmitter... any other person able to interface an old 56k modem to their computer can get the data... now a nice 10mbs per second mode would be nice, where is some cheap equipment? You do realize that a 56k modem is no use on HF. There isn't enough bandwidth and the FCC rightly limits the speed of the digital modes. As to what I've worked, I used to do RTTY, Amtor, packet, and some others. All were deadly boring. I've put the equipment away to free up desk space. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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