Dee:

If you download mirc, study it and how to use it, hook to the dalnet
server and pick a room like #australia - #40+friends #30-60friends -
#California - #Sweden - etc - etc -etc...

.... you will get lost for hours chatting, you can instantly send and
receive pictures and documents with other room members, the chat happens
in real time--you can go voice-to-net with another free application and
chat to the other countries for free in speech... after you have seen
and experienced all this--tell me amateur radio doesn't have to "GET
REAL!" I doubt if these old buggers here could even get Mirc installed
on their machines, learn to use it and find out what they are
missing--these old boy are just too plum SLOW!!!
grin

download mirc for free here == http://www.mirc.com

Warmest regards,
John

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Dee:

You miss a very important reality.

If the youngsters are not introduced to amateur radio--then most of
those interested in RF uses will go the Ghz freqs of lans/wans and
setup various neighborhood or city/town/county computer communication
networks, and when they look back at amateur radio and the code
requirement--they will laugh and become freebanders!!!

Much better to get 'em started right up front--although the oldsters
here act like radio is a big thing, the kids don't think so--they have
been chatting the world for a big percentage of their lifetimes on the
internet... they don't have to wait for conditions to improve, they
don't have to buy expensive equipment or set up large antennas or run
linears--they chat 24/7 with total and complete reliability...

they don't have to find someone with a license to chat with, anyone
able to obtain a computer they can and do chat with... there are NO
BARRIERS, compare that to amateur radio...

... then there is the data throughput capabilities of the net which
the narrow rf spectrum amateur radio provides will never allow for...

The lack of them here proves there is some REAL problem, and that is
what I have been saying--AMATEUR RADIO WILL HAVE TO CHANGE AND COME
OUT OF THE PAST AND JOIN THE NEW TECHNOLOGIES WITH DYNAMIC MINDS TO
MEET THESE CHALLENGES OR DIE...

... one or the other is inevitable, surely a blind person can see
that... I would think you might be free of the DINOSAUR SIZED EGOS of
the males here and able to grasp this immediately...

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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Im convinced that events in the future will prove us right. Today we
have a "bloat the numbers at any cost" game which is doomed to
backfire
eventually. The big question is how badly it will backfire and how
much
damage will have been be done before it happens. The history of this
country over last couple decades is chock full of eamples of backing
away from failed giveaways. It's only a matter of time until ham
radio
gets it's turn.


The "bloat the numbers at any cost" will backfire for the simple
reason that too many with no real interest will get in and then drop
out. Then we will see once again a decline in numbers that will
panic people just as the relatively small drop off from the peak is
panicing people now.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE