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June 29th 05, 03:24 AM

On 28 Jun 2005 10:48:49 -0700, wrote:

From: on Mon 27 Jun 2005 19:12

Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 09:59:04 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote:

What would you suggest?

Isn't that rather obvious?
not to those who cannot see

What do you suggest?

Isn't that rather obvious?
billboard displays too small

What do you suggest?

Isn't that rather obvious?
we try for Mt. Rushmore size

What do you suggest I do instead?

Isn't that rather obvious?
maybe do some crop circles

What do you suggest I do instead?

Isn't that rather obvious?
two-page ads in QST?

Then what do you suggest I do?

Isn't that rather obvious?
new reading glasses might help

What do you suggest I do instead?

Isn't that rather obvious?
we send obvious in morse?

What do you suggest I do?

Isn't that rather obvious?
yawn
What would you suggest?

Isn't that rather obvious?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

What do you suggest I do, Leo?

Isn't that rather obvious?
...

What do you suggest?

Isn't that rather obvious?
still at it?

What do you suggest I do differently, Leo?

Isn't that rather obvious?
yup, drain is still clogged

And your suggestion is?

Isn't that rather obvious?
call Roto-Rooter!

What do you suggest I do differently, Leo?

Isn't that rather obvious?
use Bangalore Torpedo?

In a word: No.

It's not rather obvious, Leo.
excavate, dump in lye, cover...

Sorry to hear that, Jim. How simplified do you need things to be?

It's not about simplification, Leo. It's about clarity.

Why can't you just clearly and plainly state what you
suggest that I do?

I have - many, many times.

You just keep writing that I must decide. But
you do not state concrete actions that the
decision will produce.

Give up eating those crackers, polly. You get repetitious.

Makes your cage all crumby.

You must decide.

Why?

Tsk, tsk, all you're doing in here is "busy work" writing many
words (over and over again) without doing any deciding. :-)

Decide, decide, that is not the question. - Ham-let

What *do* you suggest? Just speak plainly rather than
answering a question with another question, or a zinger.

What's your suggestion?

The way I see it, you have two options:

1. Continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments.
2. Do not continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments.

OK so far.

Glad to hear it!

So far, so good.

Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who
goad you
in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end
of someone's strings....

That's your spin on it - does not address what actions you
suggest *I* take.

That is your current reality.

That's your soft-science psychobabble spin, then. ;-)

Tsk. Only Jimmie speak "truth," "facts" from QTH on Mount
Olympus...while he make babble, babble like motel proprietor
in "Psycho."

He parent too many children...

Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1

For you, maybe.

Tsk, be a MAN and admit defeat. You've LOST these rounds a
few go-arounds ago.

- it requires the
intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait,
and
considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond,
even when you know you are in the right.

You're begging the question, Leo.

Tsk, tsk. YOU were begging for solutions before, now you can't
implement any? Not MANLY! NO decision!

This is your potential future reality.

So what do you suggest *I* do?

Decide!

Actions, Leo.

Decide for YOURSELF. If you cannot, quit. Simple.

Owned or free.

That's your spin.

That's your opinion.

Fact.

No, just your opinion.

Owned - or free.

You must decide.

Why?

Grasshopper doesn't understand the world does not revolve
around him. Tsk.

The path you choose will be entirely up to you.

So there *is* a choice!

There is always a choice.

Odd to hear from someone who told me I could not stop
myself.

You can't. You feel obsessed, compelled to continue deep
denial of anything wrong.

Yours to make if your are able to do so,

Ah - now there's a condition!

You have a "condition," and that is true. :-)

You must decide!

Why?

Only YOU can stop yourself before it is too late.

Choose wisely!

Wise by whose standards?

We'll all see the answer to that one soon enough - when you
decide!

How will you know what is decided?

"Wise we are," said Yoda, "Know we will when comes the time."

How would such a choice be demonstrated in concrete, practical
terms?

Hmmm - you read the two options, right?

Just can't make yourself spell them out, I see.

They were all spelled out. In English. English English.

What actions do you suggest?

Decide! Only you can make this decision - you're on your own
now.

You have not offered the requested information. Seems to me that
when you speak of "abuse" and "control" and "goading", you're
really talking about yourself, not Len.

Or perhaps you and he are one and the same.

We are all AI constructs living in your computer, out to do you
harm in public.

All we are the same.

Good luck!

Be seeing you.

"Worry not," said Yoda, "'Decisions for Dummies' mailed it will
be to you, plain brown wrapper in."

May the Farce be with you, grasshopper.

He must decide.

Owned - or free!

73, Leo

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