|
Question for the Morse code Haters
What is more important:
1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? no, if standing on principle keeps you unlicensed and hence an 'outsider' when you could easily learn it enough to get a license and then be an 'insider' it is not better. sometimes it is better to bend to the requirements and gain status so you can work on changes from the inside than to try to force an organization to relax the requirements and let you in... and then consider you forever a whiner. and then again, you don't 'have' to learn morse code. it is purely voluntary, you actually only get a very small gain in spectrum going from tech to general. you can 'work the world' on vhf via moon bounce, satellites, meteor scatter, and other vhf modes. and there is always 11m... or if you really want to be heard around the world pay a few bucks and use any of the many 50kw shortwave broadcast stations that are begging for programming. |
KØHB wrote:
wrote I don't believe one bit of it. Gospel truth! Learned Morse off the old 6V farm radio (a "cathedral" style Zenith with 5 or 6 bands --- we didn't get REA until I was in high school) at about age 8 or 9. Wanted to know what all those beeps and boops were about on what turned out to be the 8 and 12 MC marine bands. Fascinating stuff for a kid thousands of miles from any ocean. Ham radio interest came much later, introduced by my roomate as a college freshman. 73, de Hans, K0HB Don't believe Zenith ever made a 6V farm 'cathedral' style radio. The model 250 had four bands, went to 18Mc, but was 110VAC. They made a few 'tombstone' style 6V farm sets with several sw bands. |
Mike,
First let me state again for the record, the issue for myself and for No Code (test) International is morse code TEST opposition...not any "hatrid" of hams learning and using morse. With that clarification, my answer to your question is... IMHO, if anyone wants HF access, they should learn morse now to get their General rather than wait for any FCC changes. Cheers, Bill K2UNK, Director NCI --------- "Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? - Mike KB3EIA |
"Michael Coslo" wrote IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Mike, Maybe I'm disqualified from answering the question, not being a "Morse code Hater", but humor me. I knew Morse code for several years before I was interested in becoming an Amateur Radio licensee.... .....but if I hadn't known it I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gone to the trouble to learn it just to get an Amateur Radio license. 73, de Hans, K0HB FISTS # 7419 |
Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. YMMV I do not face that choice at all Itried for years to learn IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Again YMMV I certianly understand those that can easily choose to learn it are likely better off if they do, esp if they also continue to argue against code testing - Mike KB3EIA - |
In article ,
Dave wrote: | "Michael Coslo" wrote in message | ... | What is more important: .... | and then again, you don't 'have' to learn morse code. it is purely | voluntary, you actually only get a very small gain in spectrum going from | tech to general. Certainly the total bandwidth gained is relatively small (compared to what techs already have), but the bands you do gain access to are quite special. | you can 'work the world' on vhf via moon bounce, satellites, meteor | scatter, and other vhf modes. Perhaps, but HF is certainly an easier way of `working the world', and probably more reliable. And there's probably a lot more people to talk to. | and there is always 11m... You are aware that FCC regulations prohibit talking to somebody on a CB that's over 250 miles away, right? (Of course, I'm talking about the US here -- I don't know much about the laws elsewhere.) Personally, I had a hard time learning morse code, and learned just enough to barely pass the test. But I did pass, and now I can use the HF bands. I'd like to learn morse code better -- not so much because I want to use it, but just because it would be nice to understand CW when I hear it (like from repeaters IDing themselves) at full speed. But I've got a lot of things I'd like to learn, so maybe someday. Maybe not. -- Doug McLaren, , AD5RH "$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien |
Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and he'd make a wad. - Mike KB3EIA - w3rv |
K=D8HB wrote: "Michael Coslo" wrote IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a bette= r thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Mike, Maybe I'm disqualified from answering the question, not being a "Morse co= de Hater", but humor me. I knew Morse code for several years before I was interested in becoming an Amateur Radio licensee.... ....but if I hadn't known it I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gone to= the trouble to learn it just to get an Amateur Radio license. Knock it off Chief ya bloddy TROLL, I don't believe one bit of it. 73, de Hans, K0HB FISTS # 7419 w3rv |
wrote I don't believe one bit of it. Gospel truth! Learned Morse off the old 6V farm radio (a "cathedral" style Zenith with 5 or 6 bands --- we didn't get REA until I was in high school) at about age 8 or 9. Wanted to know what all those beeps and boops were about on what turned out to be the 8 and 12 MC marine bands. Fascinating stuff for a kid thousands of miles from any ocean. Ham radio interest came much later, introduced by my roomate as a college freshman. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
From: on Jun 29, 4:30 pm
Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and he'd make a wad. Poor unc...must have listened to his nephew too much. :-) Tsk, I was ON HF 52 years ago and was still ON HF a year ago without ever having to know/test for morse code. Legal. Just not in the MF-HF amateur bands, not even on CB. :-) "Not in the HF-MF amateur bands" is MOST of the HF-MF spectrum. Tsk. All you morseodists think that morsemanship is a "love-hate" condition? Like black versus white? If one doesn't DO it, one "hates it?" Not so. You morseodists ought to listen to yourselves sometime. You prattle on and on and on and on and on about the glory and majesty of morsemanship and how it is the epitome of all amateur skills and "all should know this basic thing" as if it were true. AS IF. Ain't true, senior. Just rationalizing bull**** or some vestige of brainwashing soap scum left on your collective psyches by older olde-fahrts who probably got their "ham" licenses back when "ham" was a not-nice word from the radio pros. Tsk, tsk. Would you say that tired old cliche' about "learning morse will show your dedication and committment to the amateur community?" I hope not, because that is a tired old cowpatty phrase left over from before WW2. Who is this "amateur community" that hams "must" show something to? A bunch of self-glorified, self-promoted raddio kopps? What's their mailing address? Is it someplace in Newington? Now, if morsemanship were SO good in radio, I would have expected at least one OTHER radio service to retain it as their prime communications mode. NONE did. How about that? If morsemanship were SO good for radio, I'd have expected to see hundreds of thousands of hobbyists flocking to code classes and beeping up a storm. Maybe picketing someplace in favor of morse? Hasn't been so. Without Test Element 1 for the below-30-MHz privilege license...and perhaps some olde-fahrts from long-ago military radio...there hasn't been any groundswell of Getting Morsemanship. How about that? So, because all you PCTA extras try to make out like radio experts BECAUSE of passing a 20 WPM test, you are wanting Love and Affection and Respect for being sooooo mighty? Tsk. You are looking for "love" in all the wrong places. Poor babies, unloved and you think all who don't love morsemanship is "hate?" You guys are as whacked out as the Tennessee Talibanian. Remember, "Morse code gets through when everything else will." - Burke |
Learn the code-get the license-forget cw and lobby to ditch the damn
ancient waste of time... Join NCI No-Code International. Write your congressman and complain public funds are supporting only a handful of code using radio hobbyists! Complain, complain, complain... John wrote in message oups.com... Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Waiting for the code test to go away to get HF privs kinda reminds me of my old uncle who until the day he passed away ten or so years ago was still waiting for his Pennsylvania Railroad stock go back up and he'd make a wad. - Mike KB3EIA - w3rv |
|
"KØHB" wrote in message link.net... "Michael Coslo" wrote IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Mike, Maybe I'm disqualified from answering the question, not being a "Morse code Hater", but humor me. I knew Morse code for several years before I was interested in becoming an Amateur Radio licensee.... ....but if I hadn't known it I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gone to the trouble to learn it just to get an Amateur Radio license. 73, de Hans, K0HB FISTS # 7419 Gee.....now I know what MY problem is.....I heard of ham radio. Found out the requirements to get a license. Studied and passed the requirements. Thanks for the insight Hans. Dan/W4NTI |
"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... wrote I don't believe one bit of it. Gospel truth! Learned Morse off the old 6V farm radio (a "cathedral" style Zenith with 5 or 6 bands --- we didn't get REA until I was in high school) at about age 8 or 9. Wanted to know what all those beeps and boops were about on what turned out to be the 8 and 12 MC marine bands. Fascinating stuff for a kid thousands of miles from any ocean. Ham radio interest came much later, introduced by my roomate as a college freshman. 73, de Hans, K0HB OH OH.......I did the same thing. But with my uncles Zenith when we went to his house for Italian chow. Dan/W4NTI |
From: on Jun 29, 6:02 pm
K=D8=88B wrote: "Michael Coslo" wrote IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a bett= er thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Mike, Maybe I'm disqualified from answering the question, not being a "Morse c= ode Hater", but humor me. I knew Morse code for several years before I was interested in becoming = an Amateur Radio licensee.... ....but if I hadn't known it I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gone t= o the trouble to learn it just to get an Amateur Radio license. Knock it off Chief ya bloddy TROLL, I don't believe one bit of it. 73, de Hans, K0HB FISTS # 7419 w3rv Knock it off yourself, PA Tuff Guy. As to "TROLL," the Coslonaut started this thread with the emotional loading of either Love or Hate attached to morsemanship. That's an "ignition troll" designed to inflame a polarized subject. As to "believe-ability" Kellie, MANY of your tales of the souse pacific in here leave a great deal of DOUBT as to their veracity. Oh, and watch your comportment in here. Telling someone to "knock it off" is the same as telling them to "shut up." Jimmie Noserve no like that and will mount the pulpit and go into another Sermon on the Antenna Mount against all who tell others to "shut up." "Morse code gets through when everything else will." - B. Burke |
Bill Sohl wrote:
Mike, First let me state again for the record, the issue for myself and for No Code (test) International is morse code TEST opposition...not any "hatrid" of hams learning and using morse. With that clarification, my answer to your question is... IMHO, if anyone wants HF access, they should learn morse now to get their General rather than wait for any FCC changes. Okay Bill, that is an answer that makes good sense to me. - Mike KB3EIA - |
KØHB wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? Mike, Maybe I'm disqualified from answering the question, not being a "Morse code Hater", but humor me. It's okay - All are welcome here.... I knew Morse code for several years before I was interested in becoming an Amateur Radio licensee.... ....but if I hadn't known it I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gone to the trouble to learn it just to get an Amateur Radio license. 73, de Hans, K0HB FISTS # 7419 Interesting, Hans! Thanks for the honest response. You would have taken up another hobby then, I suppose. - Mike KB3EIA - |
an_old_friend wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. YMMV I do not face that choice at all Itried for years to learn Was there a specific problem? I had a lot of trouble with Tinnitus, and getting hung up on one letter, and letting the rest of the message go by ("flying behind the plane") - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? - Mike KB3EIA - YES to CW or NO to CW makes no difference whatsoever Mike. Not at this stage of the game. Ham radio is a dying hobby, period. The average age of the USA ham operator is a staggering 64 Years. There are FIVE TIMES more hams dying off per month than there are new hams comming into the hobby and license renewals combined. 80% of young people 2-day have text messaging cellphones. Also there's AOL Instant Messenger or similar Chatroom software plus Apple IPOD Podcasting and similar technology. (just wait till the wireless IPOD hits around October 2005 just in time for xmas!) What young person, apart from the occasional geek, would want to invest time and money in archaic, obsolete, analog technology based ham radio in 2005? Oh yes there will be a few, but for the most part today's young people wouldn't know ham radio from CB and could not care less either. Tune across HF any evening and tell me how many young people you hear on SSB. Most of the guys I hear on 75 Meters are long retired and most callsigns I recall from just 10 Years ago are either in the local nursing home or 6 feet under the earth. Read the handwriting boys. At this rate Ham Radio will be dead by 2030. |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... an_old_friend wrote: Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. YMMV I do not face that choice at all Itried for years to learn Was there a specific problem? I had a lot of trouble with Tinnitus, and getting hung up on one letter, and letting the rest of the message go by ("flying behind the plane") - Mike KB3EIA - As I have mentioned before, my ex had a 70% hearing loss in each ear and tinnitus in both ears. Yet he passed the code. He just cranked the volume up and used headphones. If he can do it, anyone can. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"mopathetic didn't camp at Dayton! CHICKEN BOY" wrote in message news:jydrrl3q7ldnc5k.290620051907@kirk... exactly but only a couple of guys here even have a clue that is a problem "ham radio truth" wrote in message groups.com... "Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? - Mike KB3EIA - YES to CW or NO to CW makes no difference whatsoever Mike. Not at this stage of the game. Ham radio is a dying hobby, period. The average age of the USA ham operator is a staggering 64 Years. There are FIVE TIMES more hams dying off per month than there are new hams comming into the hobby and license renewals combined. 80% of young people 2-day have text messaging cellphones. Also there's AOL Instant Messenger or similar Chatroom software plus Apple IPOD Podcasting and similar technology. (just wait till the wireless IPOD hits around October 2005 just in time for xmas!) What young person, apart from the occasional geek, would want to invest time and money in archaic, obsolete, analog technology based ham radio in 2005? Oh yes there will be a few, but for the most part today's young people wouldn't know ham radio from CB and could not care less either. Tune across HF any evening and tell me how many young people you hear on SSB. Most of the guys I hear on 75 Meters are long retired and most callsigns I recall from just 10 Years ago are either in the local nursing home or 6 feet under the earth. Read the handwriting boys. At this rate Ham Radio will be dead by 2030. Well most of the hams I know, including myself, have pretty good odds of still being alive and kicking in 2030. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Mike Coslo wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. YMMV I do not face that choice at all Itried for years to learn Was there a specific problem? I had a lot of trouble with Tinnitus, and getting hung up on one letter, and letting the rest of the message go by ("flying behind the plane") Yes there was and remains a problem, 2 of them One Dyslexia, theother dyslexiod aphasia. they affect at basic level my use of letters and langauge. Morse given me chance to blow each letter Ole Stevie et all like to make fun of me for it The only good thing I can say for Morse was that trying to learn it gave a clue to one of the pople that admistered a code test who was able to guess at and begin the dianostic process at an earlier than was common then - Mike KB3EIA - |
Dee Flint wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... an_old_friend wrote: Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. YMMV I do not face that choice at all Itried for years to learn Was there a specific problem? I had a lot of trouble with Tinnitus, and getting hung up on one letter, and letting the rest of the message go by ("flying behind the plane") - Mike KB3EIA - As I have mentioned before, my ex had a 70% hearing loss in each ear and tinnitus in both ears. Yet he passed the code. He just cranked the volume up and used headphones. If he can do it, anyone can. sorry yuo simply don't know what you are taking about Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? - Mike KB3EIA - Some choices! Is that anything like having sex with the boss and having a job, or not having a job? ;^) |
KØHB wrote:
"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote Don't believe Zenith ever made a 6V farm 'cathedral' style radio. The model 250 had four bands, went to 18Mc, but was 110VAC. They made a few 'tombstone' style 6V farm sets with several sw bands. The nearest 110VAC was several miles away where the REA lines stopped, so I can assure you it was a 6V radio. (Bank of several old 6V auto batteries in parallel in the basement, kept topped off by a windcharger atop the barn.) "Catherdral" may be the wrong term, but the radio was a table-top wood cabinet affair with a pointed round top. Large round dial in the center, with the prominent Zenith "Z" designed into the pointer. Don't remember the band layout, but my recollection is that it went to at least 13 Mc (maybe higher). 4, 8, and 12 Mc marine bands were my favorites, and may have influenced my decision to go to sea as a Navy radioman. 73, de Hans, K0HB Just curious, what did you use for a BFO to copy Morse? |
"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote Don't believe Zenith ever made a 6V farm 'cathedral' style radio. The model 250 had four bands, went to 18Mc, but was 110VAC. They made a few 'tombstone' style 6V farm sets with several sw bands. The nearest 110VAC was several miles away where the REA lines stopped, so I can assure you it was a 6V radio. (Bank of several old 6V auto batteries in parallel in the basement, kept topped off by a windcharger atop the barn.) "Catherdral" may be the wrong term, but the radio was a table-top wood cabinet affair with a pointed round top. Large round dial in the center, with the prominent Zenith "Z" designed into the pointer. Don't remember the band layout, but my recollection is that it went to at least 13 Mc (maybe higher). 4, 8, and 12 Mc marine bands were my favorites, and may have influenced my decision to go to sea as a Navy radioman. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
|
KØHB wrote:
"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote Just curious, what did you use for a BFO to copy Morse? Hey, I was a pre-teen kid, not a ham. Didn't know WTF was a BFO, but if you held a finger on the metal skin of the third tube from the right in back the Morse would be heard as a sort of buzzy hum. Worked for me and my brother. 73, de Hans, K0HB LOL, where there is a will there is someone who come up with something. |
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote I don't believe one bit of it. Gospel truth! Learned Morse off the old 6V farm radio (a "cathedral" style Zenith with = 5 or 6 bands --- Geeez, OK, understood, that's roughly the same way I ran into on-the-air Morse for the first time. A couple old-maid aunts had a big wooden console radio which tuned bands above the AM BC band which I messed with and heard the "beeps and boops". Which did not particularly light my fires. Listening to the BBC and hams yakking on AM phone did light my fires. we didn't get REA until I was in high school) at about age 8 or 9. Ye gawds Hans, no 115vac until you were 8-9 years old??! That would have been in the 1958-59 timeframe and REA had just gotten to your neighborhood then?? WTF . . ?!! Or were you in Guatemala?? I was in my early twenties at that point in history and already had a gazillion confirmed and my *grandparents* had been getting around on 'lectric trains and trolly cars most of their lives. Sheesh: This 'ole city boy can't even start to imagine . . . . ! Talk about "coming up" in different worlds. Where did the six volts come from out in your boonies? Wanted to know what all those beeps and boops were about on what turned o= ut to be the 8 and 12 MC marine bands. Fascinating stuff for a kid thousands o= f miles from any ocean. Of course, but something is missing here. How did you learn to copy CW by just *listening* to the stuff? I've been wracking (what little is left of) my brain about when and how I started to learn the code. I dimly remember a Christmas around the end of WW2 when I got a pair of widgets made by, I think, Lionel. They were battery powered "code buzzers" which were connected by a pair of the usual cotten-wrapped copper wires normally used between the the Lionel or American Flyer xfmrs and the clips on the track. The idea was to connect the two code buzzers located a room or two away from each other and yak via the code with somebody. The code was printed on the box next to the key. Problem was that I didn't have a sombody to join the fun so I buzzed to myself and finally started to get it. Ham radio interest came much later, introduced by my roomate as a college freshman. 10-4 that Hans, every beeper out here has a different war story about how we got here. Helluva a lotta fun eh? =20 73, de Hans, K0HB w3rv . . . dit . . |
Radio Hero wrote:
"KØHB" wrote in message link.net... wrote Where did the B+ come from? Dynamotor, vibrator, batteries? I have no idea. To a preteen farm kid the B+ came from getting a good score on a history test. What did I know about dynamotors? 73, de Hans, K0HB Looks like Buzz nailed you again Hans, and don't try to change the subject to school work. Nailed him how, could you explaing that? |
KØHB wrote:
Actually only about 3/4-mile. Wildwood School, District 28, one room grades 1-8, but rarely kids in every grade, average enrollment about 10 kids. Teacher was Mrs. Isabelle Schneider. At 9th grade you went to "town school" on a yellow bus. During blizzards the bus didn't take you home, so you stayed at your "storm home" --- all the farm kids were assigned one of those. 73, de Hans, K0HB Often houses that had the 32V system were wired with standard 110v outlets, then when REA came along all one had to do was disconnect from the 32V system and hook up to REA. Those 32V radios would have 110v plugs and it isn't too unsual to find one where somone plugged it into 110 volts. |
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
... What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? - Mike KB3EIA - Hi Mike: I think you know I don't "hate" Morse Code. I, personally, never really wished to try it out; just like I have never really tried SCTV, anything digital (except for APRS--if that can be considered digital), ATV, etc. I think you get my point. Since I have ever first perused this newsgroup, except for a few real jerks, I'd believe that most of "us" who just don't wander into other means of communication--including Morse Code--are pretty much the same as I am. I absolutely support those who use the mode (as I do anyone who uses and/or invents any other modes), am willing to honor the tradition of Morse Code (as I honor the tradition of other steadfast things in amateur radio), and hold no animosity for anyone--OTHER than the "idiots" on both sides of the floor (as it would be stated in political terms :o). For me, it was never a matter of wanting HF privileges that much, and I learned the 5wpm needed to get the privileges I was happy with. So, could you do me a favor? Please rethink your phrase "Morse Code Haters." I don't think most of us feel that strongly about it. Kim W5TIT |
Dee Flint wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... an_old_friend wrote: Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. YMMV I do not face that choice at all Itried for years to learn Was there a specific problem? I had a lot of trouble with Tinnitus, and getting hung up on one letter, and letting the rest of the message go by ("flying behind the plane") - Mike KB3EIA - As I have mentioned before, my ex had a 70% hearing loss in each ear and tinnitus in both ears. Yet he passed the code. He just cranked the volume up and used headphones. If he can do it, anyone can. I won't deny it can be done - obviously, since my problems are similar. I doubt I'll ever be proficient at Morse though. To get an idea of what it is like for me, imagine concentrating as hard as you can on something. Can I do it? Sure. But not for extended periods. Certainly turning up the headphones helps, but the levels I use are fatiguing, and they sometimes annoy the other ops. - Mike KB3EIA - |
bb wrote: Michael Coslo wrote: What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? - Mike KB3EIA - Some choices! Is that anything like having sex with the boss and having a job, or not having a job? ;^) I guess it depends on the boss! ;^) - Mike KB3EIA - |
Kim wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... What is more important: 1. Having a license that allows HF access. 2. Not having to learn Morse code. IOW, is standing on principle, and refusing to learn Morse code a better thing than learning it to get the priveliges? - Mike KB3EIA - Hi Mike: I think you know I don't "hate" Morse Code. I, personally, never really wished to try it out; just like I have never really tried SCTV, anything digital (except for APRS--if that can be considered digital), ATV, etc. I think you get my point. Since I have ever first perused this newsgroup, except for a few real jerks, I'd believe that most of "us" who just don't wander into other means of communication--including Morse Code--are pretty much the same as I am. I absolutely support those who use the mode (as I do anyone who uses and/or invents any other modes), am willing to honor the tradition of Morse Code (as I honor the tradition of other steadfast things in amateur radio), and hold no animosity for anyone--OTHER than the "idiots" on both sides of the floor (as it would be stated in political terms :o). For me, it was never a matter of wanting HF privileges that much, and I learned the 5wpm needed to get the privileges I was happy with. So, could you do me a favor? Please rethink your phrase "Morse Code Haters." I don't think most of us feel that strongly about it. Yeah, "haters" was the wrong choice of word in retrospect. - Mike KB3EIA - |
wrote Where did the six volts come from out in your boonies? Wind-powered charger on the roof of the barn. (Not all windmills pumped water). |
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote Where did the six volts come from out in your boonies? Wind-powered charger on the roof of the barn. (Not all windmills pumped = water). Where did the B+ come from? Dynamotor, vibrator, batteries? --- Most of the classic windcharger systems I know of were nominally 32 volts. When I lived in a rural part 2-land, windmill towers were still plentiful, although most held TV antennas. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote Just curious, what did you use for a BFO to copy Morse? Hey, I was a pre-teen kid, not a ham. Didn't know WTF was a BFO, but if you held a finger on the metal skin of the third tube from the right in back the Morse would be heard as a sort of buzzy hum. Worked for me and my brother. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:18 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com