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Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dee Flint wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least some region of the band. Is my impression corect. The 60 meter band is USB voice only. NO form of digital or other non-voice is allowed. Thanks for the info interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use That "band" is shared with non-Amateur users both federal and civil. Yes I realize that so? Don't they know the code? I thought the original reason to learn Morse Code was because other users could understand and communicate i.e., get off my frequency, with amateurs. Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band" DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie. Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for "below 30MHz." well said The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they should have FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some research), You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes you the idiot. the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz. No it does not it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the general and extra bands Must be why he said, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use." Too bad you missed it. Read the regs and be enlightened...Or is reading "not in vogue"...?!?! Steve, K4YZ Read the post and be enlightened, instead of going off on yet another Robeson rant. |
"an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message roups.com... K4YZ wrote: Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY confused you! you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it? the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know, I also assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not using the freqs it doesn't matter But the rest of the ARS is not 1.5kw. The 30m band is limited to 200 wats max. All operators are limited to the old novice power output in the old novice portions of 15m, 40m, and 80m. Your point? power was never the issue Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I believe that the point was being made that you appear virtually clueless about legal operations permitted in the amateur bands. What started out as a whine about CW rapidly changed when it became apparent that you also seem ignorant of power limitations in varous other amateur bands. For what it is worth, there are other limitations that may come into play if you are a licensed amateur in close proximity to a radio telescope (the Aricibo site in Puerto Rico is but one where other limitations may apply). 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
Jim Hampton wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message roups.com... K4YZ wrote: Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY confused you! you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it? the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know, I also assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not using the freqs it doesn't matter But the rest of the ARS is not 1.5kw. The 30m band is limited to 200 wats max. All operators are limited to the old novice power output in the old novice portions of 15m, 40m, and 80m. Your point? power was never the issue Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Break I believe that the point was being made that you appear virtually clueless about legal operations permitted in the amateur bands. What started out as a whine about CW rapidly changed when it became apparent that you also seem ignorant of power limitations in varous other amateur bands. Why should I care at this point what limtis apply at HF Ignorant perhaps caring what they are on hf absolutely What happened is a smart ass decide to show off and not bother answering the real question was cw permited. For what it is worth, there are other limitations that may come into play if you are a licensed amateur in close proximity to a radio telescope (the Aricibo site in Puerto Rico is but one where other limitations may apply). yea I know that too your point I see you are just trying to show you know better. as I said I don't realy care about power limits at HF at this time, Why should I care 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
I did answer your question, and I did so quite precisely. As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand? It's an FCC specification that essentially says "USB carrying voice of frequencies 300 to 3KHz". Also the FCC specifies a SSB channel frequency by the frequency in the center of the transmitted RF spectra. Audio at 300Hz corresponds to frequency "X-(2700/2)", 3KHz to "X+(2700/2)" where "X" is the center of the channel. "X" would be 1650Hz higher than the traditional ham radio method of specifying a USB frequency (hams specify the frequency of the suppressed carrier). Aside from 60M, the FCC doesn't specify how we are to specify our frequencies; they just say "Here's your permitted bands for SSB, keep all of your RF inside them". 60M is special in that the FCC wanted hams to blend seamlessly with other existing users (meaning that those other users could easily listen and talk (say in emergencies) to us on their existing channelized equipment. And we got these five specific channels because the other users don't use them that much compared to other channels. |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at lea= st some region of the band. Is my impression corect. There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8J3= E channels Auf Anglish Bitte? Why? so it can be understood I understood him fine the first time...OF course I KNOW a bit about Amateur rules and regulations, the focus of this forum byt the way, so it was a "no brainer". You can't do English any better than you could Serbo-Croatian. there is a lie, I Do English much better No. You don't. He answered your question exactly. no he did not answer it the question was about CW He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately. Civilly. I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but you= I guess answering a question si too much for you He did answer your question. Precisely. no he did not answer it the question was about CW He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately. Civilly. Perhaps your "higher standards" you refered to in another thread aren't so high, eh?... any standard is higher than standard of proof for yourself, even your standard of proof for others Well...You spelled all of the words correctly....Now if they were just organized into a coherent sentence... centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz. Geeze, Markie...He gave you the specific mode AND frequencies authorized. in gibberish "Gibberish" to an idiot, perhaps. Seems it's perfectly clear in Part 97. So is this going to be another "rights" issue for you? Is the FCC going to have to write a "Radio Rules for Dummies" book just for idiots like you? And then you don't even have the good courtesy to thank him. I rarely thank people when they are being discourtesous Then why didn't you thank Hans for giving you the information you requested? He gave you the EXACT frequencies and modes authorized on 60 meters and did so without a single abrasive, discourtesous adjective or suggestion. Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY confused you! you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it? the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know...(SNIP) So you just embarked on this mission to provide yet another opportunity for us to make fun of you? Was it GOOD for you...?!?! (UNSNIP)...I also assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not using the freqs it doesn't matter (1) If you're not "using the freqs", why the inquiry in the first place, and (2) There you go assuming again. Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself. And if you had problems with the emission designators, well, that's on line and public information too. Just like your address is. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the t= he relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at l= east some region of the band. Is my impression corect. There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8= J3E channels Auf Anglish Bitte? Why? so it can be understood I understood him fine the first time...OF course I KNOW a bit about Amateur rules and regulations, the focus of this forum byt the way, so it was a "no brainer". You can't do English any better than you could Serbo-Croatian. there is a lie, I Do English much better No. You don't. Bull**** another Stevie boy lie. I know nothing of SerboCroatian , I know something of english therefore I know English much better He answered your question exactly. no he did not answer it the question was about CW He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately. Civilly. no he answered it vaguely incompletely and arrogantly I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but y= ou I guess answering a question si too much for you He did answer your question. Precisely. no he did not answer it the question was about CW He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately. Civilly. no he answered it vaguely incompletely and arrogantly you realy like cuting and pasting I can do it to Stevie boy Perhaps your "higher standards" you refered to in another thread aren't so high, eh?... any standard is higher than standard of proof for yourself, even your standard of proof for others Well...You spelled all of the words correctly....Now if they were just organized into a coherent sentence... it is perfectly coherent and in exactly proper for spoken english, which the from i use online as I have said before, again and again And of course it is true Any standard of proof is higher than yours for yourself centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz. Geeze, Markie...He gave you the specific mode AND frequencies authorized. in gibberish "Gibberish" to an idiot, perhaps. I suspectwith some effort i could PHDs to whom it be gibberish Seems it's perfectly clear in Part 97. So is this going to be another "rights" issue for you? Is the FCC going to have to write a "Radio Rules for Dummies" book just for idiots like you? GIGO Must you rant and rave so much And then you don't even have the good courtesy to thank him. I rarely thank people when they are being discourtesous Then why didn't you thank Hans for giving you the information you requested? Because he didn't He gave you the EXACT frequencies and modes authorized on 60 meters and did so without a single abrasive, discourtesous adjective or suggestion. he did not answer the question he rudely choose to answer a different question No one asked for freqs no asked about any mode beside CW Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY confused you! you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it? the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know...(SNIP) So you just embarked on this mission to provide yet another opportunity for us to make fun of you? Was it GOOD for you...?!?! I did not and do not need to know what power levels are ok on 60 M I am not allowed to transmit there I don't ask for unneeded data (UNSNIP)...I also assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not using the freqs it doesn't matter (1) If you're not "using the freqs", why the inquiry in the first place, and To determine if I was correctly following folks when it seemed that CW has forbidden on a band that requires a CW test for use I care about CW testing surely you have noticed (2) There you go assuming again. Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself. Bull**** A simple yes no instaed of reading through mind numbing legalese And if you had problems with the emission designators, well, that's on line and public information too. =20 Just like your address is. =20 Steve, K4YZ |
) Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you
)had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself. What embarrsihment are you refering to? |
"an_old_friend" wrote ) Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you )had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself. What embarrsihment are you refering to? Nobody refer(r)ed to any ambarrsihment. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: You can't do English any better than you could Serbo-Croatian. there is a lie, I Do English much better No. You don't. Bull**** another Stevie boy lie. I know nothing of SerboCroatian , I know something of english therefore I know English much better Then prove it. He answered your question exactly. no he did not answer it the question was about CW He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately. Civilly. no he answered it vaguely incompletely and arrogantly Then you are without question or consideration an absolute liar. He gave you the specific frequencies allowed and the mode allowed on them. Simply saying "single side band" is not completely accurate. I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but you I guess answering a question si too much for you He did answer your question. Precisely. no he did not answer it the question was about CW He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately. Civilly. no he answered it vaguely incompletely and arrogantly Then you are without question or consideration an absolute liar. He gave you the specific frequencies allowed and the mode allowed on them. Simply saying "single side band" is not completely accurate. you realy like cuting and pasting I can do it to Stevie boy Nope. You really like repeating the same lie over and over. My answer to the assertion is the same answer. Perhaps your "higher standards" you refered to in another thread aren't so high, eh?... any standard is higher than standard of proof for yourself, even your standard of proof for others Well...You spelled all of the words correctly....Now if they were just organized into a coherent sentence... it is perfectly coherent and in exactly proper for spoken english, which the from i use online as I have said before, again and again No. It's not. And of course it is true Any standard of proof is higher than yours for yourself Still senseless. centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz. Geeze, Markie...He gave you the specific mode AND frequencies authorized. in gibberish "Gibberish" to an idiot, perhaps. I suspectwith some effort i could PHDs to whom it be gibberish See what I mean...an idiot! Seems it's perfectly clear in Part 97. So is this going to be another "rights" issue for you? Is the FCC going to have to write a "Radio Rules for Dummies" book just for idiots like you? GIGO Must you rant and rave so much You're the ranter and raver here, Mark. You asked a question requiring specific information. That question was answered, but then you insulted and demeaned the person who provided it just becasue YOU are a feeble minded idiot. GIGO doesn't apply. You were given the right information. You simply were (and remain)too stupid to understand it. And then you don't even have the good courtesy to thank him. I rarely thank people when they are being discourtesous Then why didn't you thank Hans for giving you the information you requested? Because he didn't Then you are without question or consideration an absolute liar. He gave you the specific frequencies allowed and the mode allowed on them. Simply saying "single side band" is not completely accurate. He gave you the EXACT frequencies and modes authorized on 60 meters and did so without a single abrasive, discourtesous adjective or suggestion. he did not answer the question he rudely choose to answer a different question Then you are without question or consideration an absolute liar. He gave you the specific frequencies allowed and the mode allowed on them. Simply saying "single side band" is not completely accurate. No one asked for freqs no asked about any mode beside CW Just admit you were too stupid to understand and to narrowminded to take a second to process what was given you. You reacted the way ALL spolied brats do. So you just embarked on this mission to provide yet another opportunity for us to make fun of you? Was it GOOD for you...?!?! I did not and do not need to know what power levels are ok on 60 M I am not allowed to transmit there I don't ask for unneeded data Good. Because you obviously were too stupid to understand the data you DID ask for. (UNSNIP)...I also assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not using the freqs it doesn't matter (1) If you're not "using the freqs", why the inquiry in the first place, and To determine if I was correctly following folks when it seemed that CW has forbidden on a band that requires a CW test for use FCC regulations require Morse Code competency for ANY Amateur operating on ANY frequency below 30Mhz. I care about CW testing surely you have noticed No...You care about getting as much as you can with as little effort expended. You proved that years ago. (2) There you go assuming again. Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself. Bull#### A simple yes no instaed of reading through mind numbing legalese It was only mind numbing to you...Mind numbing because you were either too stupid or too ignorant to understand it. I say "stupid or ignorant" because you immeidately made a fool out of yourself over the answer instead of doing two minutes worth of research. Nothing we didn't expect. Steve, K4YZ |
K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote ) Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you )had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself. What embarrsihment are you refering to? Nobody refer(r)ed to any ambarrsihment. =20 73, de Hans, K0HB Stevie did |
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