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"K4YZ" wrote KØHB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote ) Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you )had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself. What embarrsihment are you refering to? Nobody refer(r)ed to any embarrsihment. I did, Hans. The embarrasment of ...... Oh, OK. I'm so embarrsi'd that I didn't know "embarrsihment" was the same as "embarrassment". 73, de Hans, K0HB |
an_old_friend wrote: Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band" DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie. Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for "below 30MHz." well said The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they should have There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty. FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some research), You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes you the idiot. the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz. No it does not it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the general and extra bands Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did Quitefine at it. |
b.b. wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band" DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie. Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for "below 30MHz." well said The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they should have break There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty. you sure it requires even a Ham License I had heard ANY could us the Alaska freq FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some research), You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes you the idiot. the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz. No it does not it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the general and extra bands Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did Quitefine at it. |
b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote:
an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote: Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling him "Brain"... b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band" DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie. Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for "below 30MHz." well said The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they should have Why? The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz. There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty. Several points: (1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of any treaty. (2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance with said treaty. FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some research), You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes you the idiot. the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz. No it does not Yes, it does. it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the general and extra bands Uh huh....Which are...?!?! BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! ! QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME! What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!? And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees? Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did Quitefine at it. Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?! Another QuiteWrongLie it seems. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote: an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote: Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling him "Brain"... he doesn't mind BTW nobody gotta love Stevie just because you say so b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band" DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie. Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for "below 30MHz." well said The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they should have Why? Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test to use it if code is forbidden The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz. So what? Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed? There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty. Several points: (1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of any treaty. (2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance with said treaty. so he should have defunct provision grow up FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some research), You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes you the idiot. the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz. No it does not Yes, it does. nope it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the general and extra bands Uh huh....Which are...?!?! well known to you. till they are avalable to me I'll not bother to learn BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! ! So what QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME! What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!? none that apply to me and what I think you are referring isbad decision of the FCCto end thech vs thech plus license hopefully that mistake will be fixed And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees? so? Now on to turth Nothing prevents the FCC from allowing hambands anywhere in the spectrum and assigning them to Tech class, and allowing techs without code tests to use them NOTHING but tradition perhaps Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did Quitefine at it. Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?! indeed he has you chase them away not all stay away Another QuiteWrongLie it seems. nope Steve, K4YZ |
Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote: no no girly men on that frequency now you go stand in corner arnold Now that's some on-topic policy discussion. |
K4YZ (idiot savante) wrote: b.b. wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling him "Brain"... Only Robber's Son would enjoy making fun of a disabled person's disability. b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band" DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie. Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for "below 30MHz." well said The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they should have Why? The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz. No treaty issues anymore. So why not? There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty. Several points: (1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you prefer) ... I can handle either. Would you like to attempt a hertz conversion? I've got a pretty good memory (and can remember most of your lies), and it was previously posted in Part 97 as 5.170 MHz. The regs have been rewritten to allow for people who don't understand the bandwidth of an J3E or R3E emission. Congratulations. You qualify. Don't believe me? Ask amateur historian Jim. However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an accomodation to safety. Yes, that's what I said, "There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies." Thanks for your unnecessary confirmation. You're Extra special. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of any treaty. No stretch. It was the law. This provision has been in place since I've been an amateur (Jan 87), and don't know how far back it goes. Clearly a violation of S25 as No Code Techs were authorized to use it. The frequency was below 30MHz. No Code Techs (obviously) didn't have to show any proficiency in Morse Code. I think that pretty much unravels up your claim of stretch. It was a clear violation. Robber's Son desperate attempts fail to make an issue. bb prevails. And it could easily be rewritten to read all licensed stations on U.S. soil, and within 200nm offshore. No? |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote: an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote: Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling him "Brain"... he doesn't mind I've cashed government checks made out to "Brain." I think they're on to something. BTW nobody gotta love Stevie just because you say so Few could love Steve. My best guess is his overdominant mother. His wife probably hangs around for his VA disability check. b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band" DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie. Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for "below 30MHz." well said The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they should have Why? Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test to use it if code is forbidden Not so fast. Where is Steve's apology to Mark for making false accusations of stupidity, and getting the "below 30MHz" wrong??? Fess up Steve. You got it ALL wrong. Admit it. Apologize. The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz. So what? Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed? There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more The gears of tyranny usually turn slowly. There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty. Several points: (1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of any treaty. (2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance with said treaty. so he should have defunct provision grow up Impossible. One of Steve's personalities is related to Dick Clark, America's oldest teenager. FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some research), You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes you the idiot. the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz. No it does not Yes, it does. nope Sorry. Except in the 5.170MHz/Alaska provision that I cited, it does. it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the general and extra bands Uh huh....Which are...?!?! well known to you. till they are avalable to me I'll not bother to learn 160, 80/75, 60, 30, 20, 17, 15, 12, and 10M. BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! ! So what I've already verified Robber's Sons wrongness. No need to go rubbing his nose in it. And it wouldn't matter anyway. He's a brown noser from the gitgo! The smell never changes. QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME! What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!? none that apply to me and what I think you are referring isbad decision of the FCCto end thech vs thech plus license hopefully that mistake will be fixed And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees? so? Now on to turth Nothing prevents the FCC from allowing hambands anywhere in the spectrum and assigning them to Tech class, and allowing techs without code tests to use them NOTHING but tradition perhaps The gears of tyranny turn slowly. Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did Quitefine at it. Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?! indeed he has you chase them away not all stay away A Tech can use morse code on HF with a General, Advanced, or Extra control operator at his/her side. Another QuiteWrongLie it seems. nope Robber's Son can't be wrong. You must accept his flaws. |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote: an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote: Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling him "Brain"... he doesn't mind Sure he does. BTW nobody gotta love Stevie just because you say so And where did I say so, Markie? The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they should have Why? Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test to use it if code is forbidden (A) It's not a "band". It's five discreet channels. (B) The mode restriction is due to other adjacent channel users that we must dovetail with...Not due to any altruistic debate over Morse Code use or testing. The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz. So what? Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed? There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more Sure there is. YOU need to read how it's worded. The international treat gives individual administrations the OPTION of requiring code testing. Guess what...?!?! The United States is in compliance with the treaty. There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty. Several points: (1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of any treaty. (2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance with said treaty. so he should have defunct provision What? Huh? grow up I have. And someday you will too. But not today, apparently. the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz. No it does not Yes, it does. nope Oh? Markie...You're either disagreeing for arguments sake, or you are again demonstrating your absolute ignorance of United States policy as it pertains to the Amateur Radio service. Or just lying again. it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the general and extra bands Uh huh....Which are...?!?! well known to you. till they are avalable to me I'll not bother to learn So...Got slapped around and now you gonna schlep away with your tail between your legs! BBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! ! So what So you're patently wrong again. QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME! What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!? none that apply to me Absolutely correct. and what I think you are referring isbad decision of the FCCto end thech vs thech plus license They only eneded their admistrative tracking of it. The license, in practice, still exisits. hopefully that mistake will be fixed The FCC has clarly demonstrated that they are all about "less" regulation and administrative burden...not more. And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees? so? "so?" was the wrong answer. You lose. Now on to turth Turth? Is that near Intercourse, Pennsylvania? Nothing prevents the FCC from allowing hambands anywhere in the spectrum and assigning them to Tech class, and allowing techs without code tests to use them NOTHING but tradition perhaps And nothing but it's current policy that takes advantage of treaty language that gives administrations the priviledge of determining their own course. I DO agree that the FCC COULD have immediately enacted interim "policy" that could have allowed licensees who pass the higher class WRITTEN exams to exercise those privileges without the benefit of passing Element 1 until it had been "officially" dealt with. But they didn't, so it's still here. Oh well. Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did Quitefine at it. Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?! indeed he has you chase them away not all stay away I haven't chased anyone away, Markie. My VHF log has many, many NCT's on 6 and 2M SSB. Another QuiteWrongLie it seems. nope Yep. Steve, K4YZ |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling him "Brain"... Only Robber's Son would enjoy making fun of a disabled person's disability. He's not disabled. He's lazy. Massive snip of usual Brain P Burke deceptions and lies...his kids will have enough to deal with when they get older... There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty. Several points: (1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you prefer) ... I can handle either. Would you like to attempt a hertz conversion? I've got a pretty good memory (and can remember most of your lies) Then you've got a lot of unused storage space available. You've not yet substantiated a single one of your "lie" accusations. it was previously posted in Part 97 as 5.170 MHz. Not in recent history...recent being back into the 80's when I first remember seeing it. The regs have been rewritten to allow for people who don't understand the bandwidth of an J3E or R3E emission. Congratulations. You qualify. Don't believe me? Ask amateur historian Jim. No, I don't believe you. You're a chronic liar. And what you don't lie about, you manage to get wrong as a consequence of inadequate experience or research. Either way, a "bet" on information provided by you would be money lost. Steve, K4YZ |
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