Ed wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:40:54 -0700, N9OGL wrote:

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N9OGL IS WORKING ON A FILING TO COMMENT ON K1MAN RENEWAL
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illiterate nonsense snipped

Does N9OGL always refer to himself in the third preson?

Go back to school, Todd.

He figures if he does it this way it will appear as though someone
important is being reported on by someone else who deems it important
to report ON him...rather than being the basement-dwelling parasite
that he is. You know...Kinda like that "When E.F. Hutton
speaks...Everyone listens..." commercial...

Steve, K4YZ

**** you Steve you ****ing little troll, why don't you crawl back under
that ****ing rock where you came from and when want to hear from your
bullying ass we'll ask.

N9OGL wrote:
#### you Steve you ####ing little troll, why don't you crawl back under
that ####ing rock where you came from and when want to hear from your
bullying ### we'll ask.

Toiddie, I am disappointed in you. Profanity was only 12.9% of
that post...Way, way down from your personal best!

Here's where YOUR biggest disappointment comes in, Toid...I get to
exercise the EXACT SAME "freedom of speech" that YOU get to use...

Sucks, huh...?!?!

You may not like the way I use mine, but then I guess that leaves
us tied now, doesn't it...?!?!

Keep that First Amendment spirit, Toiddie!

Steve, K4YZ

On 5 Aug 2005 06:23:10 -0700, K4YZ wrote:

N9OGL wrote:
#### you Steve you ####ing little troll, why don't you crawl back under
that ####ing rock where you came from and when want to hear from your
bullying ### we'll ask.

Toiddie, I am disappointed in you. Profanity was only 12.9% of
that post...Way, way down from your personal best!

Here's where YOUR biggest disappointment comes in, Toid...I get to
exercise the EXACT SAME "freedom of speech" that YOU get to use...

Sucks, huh...?!?!

You may not like the way I use mine, but then I guess that leaves
us tied now, doesn't it...?!?!

Keep that First Amendment spirit, Toiddie!

Steve, K4YZ

Interesting how Todd considers others using the same First Amendment
rights he does as "bullying."

He must have been deprived of essential education during his formative
years.

Ed

N9OGL wrote:
**** you Steve you ****ing little troll, why don't you crawl back under
that ****ing rock where you came from and when want to hear from your
bullying ass we'll ask.

"We"? Do you have a pirate station in your pocket?

Dave K8MN

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
k.net...
N9OGL wrote:
**** you Steve you ****ing little troll, why don't you crawl back under
that ****ing rock where you came from and when want to hear from your
bullying ass we'll ask.

"We"? Do you have a pirate station in your pocket?

Dave K8MN

Is that the one in California that was just busted???? HO HO

Dan/W4NTI

On 5 Aug 2005 03:02:50 -0700, N9OGL wrote:

**** you Steve you ****ing little troll, why don't you crawl back under
that ****ing rock where you came from and when want to hear from your
bullying ass we'll ask.

Oh my, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

Ed

Some of the points to my petition:

1. This petition is neither for nor against K1MAN renewal, instead it
is being sent to the commission for the purpose of the FCC to answer a
few questions. These question mostly circle around the recent NAL given
to K1MAN.

2. INTERFERENCE: The question of why the FCC seems to be going only
after K1MAN when W1AW has also been reported to have cause
interference. It seems funny that since 1987 the FCC has repeatedly
sent warning letters and NAL's to K1MAN and not W1AW, who has been
reported to begin transmitting over ongoing communications. It is also
rather funny that amateur's, even the ones that W1AW has transmitted
over, seem to target only K1MAN.

3. PECUNIARY INTEREST: Amateur radio is a non-commercial service and
according to the rules and regulations amateur radio stations cannot
have pecuniary interest either direct or indirect. The first of the
questions is why does the FCC have a double standard or definition to
the term non-commercial? Non-commercial under the general rule is a
station that can't make a profit; instead a station can make money, to
sustain the station. Non-commercial FM and AM radio station due it
through viewer support and non-commercial point to point services do it
through state and federal funds ALL other service are able to get funds
to run their stations either commercial and non-commercial. The second
is direct or indirect rule. K1MAN on his Information bulletin
advertised his website which had commercial goods on it (DIRECT) while
when some one listens to W1AW, like a short-wave listener, or a future
ham operator they would get on the Internet and do a search for W1AW,
which in term would lead them to the ARRL site, site, which also has
goods for sale (INDIRECT). So the question is why is the FCC going
after the ARRL for their indirect sale of goods? It seems that the FCC
has a double standard when it comes to who can bend the rules and who
can't. Which leads to the finally question, Does announcing your
website on the radio (even if it to some guys your talking too) and it
has commercial advertisement on it really constitute pecuniary
interest? And again if so then why is the ARRL allowed to sale products
on their website.

4. Broadcasting: Under the FCC rules governing amateur radio, ham
operators are not allowed to broadcast, however under 97.3(a)(25) and
97.111(b)(6) amateur can run Information bulletins. The questions are
where does the line between Information bulletin end and broadcasting
begin? Many amateurs believe that an Information bulletin is to be a
newscast and is not allowed to opinionated. Which raises the second and
third question, where in the amateur rules does it state an information
bulletin cannot be opinionated? Third does these "non-opinionated
rules" allowed under the "non-content based rules" (the Courts has
ruled repeatedly that the FCC rules must be content-neutral) or Under
Section 326 of the Communication Act of 1934 as amended, (prohibits the
FCC from control the content of station except for obscene and indecent
material) or the First Amendment

"N9OGL" wrote in message
ups.com...
Some of the points to my petition:

1. This petition is neither for nor against K1MAN renewal, instead it
is being sent to the commission for the purpose of the FCC to answer a
few questions. These question mostly circle around the recent NAL given
to K1MAN.



BWAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA....you seriously expect the FCC to answer a question from
YOU?


2. INTERFERENCE: The question of why the FCC seems to be going only
after K1MAN when W1AW has also been reported to have cause
interference. It seems funny that since 1987 the FCC has repeatedly
sent warning letters and NAL's to K1MAN and not W1AW, who has been
reported to begin transmitting over ongoing communications. It is also
rather funny that amateur's, even the ones that W1AW has transmitted
over, seem to target only K1MAN.


FCC responds to complaints. The issue is K1MAN, not W1AW. If you got a
problem with W1AW, send in a complaint. If you got the gonads that is.


3. PECUNIARY INTEREST: Amateur radio is a non-commercial service and
according to the rules and regulations amateur radio stations cannot
have pecuniary interest either direct or indirect. The first of the
questions is why does the FCC have a double standard or definition to
the term non-commercial? Non-commercial under the general rule is a
station that can't make a profit; instead a station can make money, to
sustain the station. Non-commercial FM and AM radio station due it
through viewer support and non-commercial point to point services do it
through state and federal funds ALL other service are able to get funds
to run their stations either commercial and non-commercial. The second
is direct or indirect rule. K1MAN on his Information bulletin
advertised his website which had commercial goods on it (DIRECT) while
when some one listens to W1AW, like a short-wave listener, or a future
ham operator they would get on the Internet and do a search for W1AW,
which in term would lead them to the ARRL site, site, which also has
goods for sale (INDIRECT). So the question is why is the FCC going
after the ARRL for their indirect sale of goods? It seems that the FCC
has a double standard when it comes to who can bend the rules and who
can't. Which leads to the finally question, Does announcing your
website on the radio (even if it to some guys your talking too) and it
has commercial advertisement on it really constitute pecuniary
interest? And again if so then why is the ARRL allowed to sale products
on their website.


SNIP What a blowhard you are Toad. Ham radio is NOT COMMERCIAL.
Broadcast radio is. Need I continue, really? You are not actually that
ignorant are you?


4. Broadcasting: Under the FCC rules governing amateur radio, ham
operators are not allowed to broadcast, however under 97.3(a)(25) and
97.111(b)(6) amateur can run Information bulletins. The questions are
where does the line between Information bulletin end and broadcasting
begin? Many amateurs believe that an Information bulletin is to be a
newscast and is not allowed to opinionated. Which raises the second and
third question, where in the amateur rules does it state an information
bulletin cannot be opinionated? Third does these "non-opinionated
rules" allowed under the "non-content based rules" (the Courts has
ruled repeatedly that the FCC rules must be content-neutral) or Under
Section 326 of the Communication Act of 1934 as amended, (prohibits the
FCC from control the content of station except for obscene and indecent
material) or the First Amendment


The FCC has answered that question. It is UP TO THE CONTROL OPERATOR.

Your shot goof.

Dan/W4NTI

BWAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA....you seriously expect the FCC to answer a question from
YOU?

Well you dumb redneck, either they will or the court of appeals will
tell too.

FCC responds to complaints. The issue is K1MAN, not W1AW. If you got a
problem with W1AW, send in a complaint. If you got the gonads that is.

Moron, W1AW does the same thing, it is funny that ALL THE MORONS in
amateur radio complain about K1MAN, and not W1AW.

SNIP What a blowhard you are Toad. Ham radio is NOT COMMERCIAL.
Broadcast radio is. Need I continue, really? You are not actually that
ignorant are you?

And what dumbass you are, Amateur radio is NON-COMMERCIAL, but
NON-COMMERCIAL IN ALL THE OTHER SERVICE CAN MAKE MONEY, BUT ONLY ENOUGH
TO SUBSTAIN THE STATION. Commercial radio can make a profit, read the
rules you freaking moron.

The FCC has answered that question. It is UP TO THE CONTROL OPERATOR.

yeah but the NAL seems to me is an attempt by the FCC to control the
content. Simply because the definitions of an information bulletin and
broadcasting is very vague.

Todd N9OGL