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Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Len: As long as evil exists in the world, there will always be a "John Smith" to oppose it--a thousand deaths and the spirit of John Smith will live on. This man is invincible and immortal, death is only a tunnel to the next life, and to pick up the fight of evil men once again! Yep, what we need is more men who hide behind a pseudonym rather than openly standing by their convictions. As "John Smith", you can post your views without any personal repercussions--and you can check into a cheap motel with some floozy. boy oh boy you are obsessed with what other MEN do with their genitals Colonel Morgan, break "John Smith", so the jokes go, is a commonly used name by those checking into a hotel with a woman other than one's wife. I didn't mention "John Smith's" or anyone else's genitals. Now you refered instead to what he was doing with them so you are still obsessed with what other MEN are doing with their genitals I am of course well aware of the joke Dave K8MN |
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an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Len: As long as evil exists in the world, there will always be a "John Smith" to oppose it--a thousand deaths and the spirit of John Smith will live on. This man is invincible and immortal, death is only a tunnel to the next life, and to pick up the fight of evil men once again! Yep, what we need is more men who hide behind a pseudonym rather than openly standing by their convictions. As "John Smith", you can post your views without any personal repercussions--and you can check into a cheap motel with some floozy. boy oh boy you are obsessed with what other MEN do with their genitals Colonel Morgan, break "John Smith", so the jokes go, is a commonly used name by those checking into a hotel with a woman other than one's wife. I didn't mention "John Smith's" or anyone else's genitals. Now you refered instead to what he was doing with them That's incorrect. I wrote of where he was going with them. I wrote nothing at all about what he was doing with them and I did not refer to his, hers or the desk clerk's genitals. so you are still obsessed with what other MEN are doing with their genitals Are you still laboring under a misconception about which organs are included as genitals, Colonel? I am of course well aware of the joke From your response, that was not at all evident. Dave K8MN |
Dave:
Cut the BS. You don't like me. You seek to discredit and make ground though character assassination and any other dirty trick you learned in grade school... no one cares... not even me... stay there if you wish... I cannot fathom what you get from such, or what rewards such behavior has paid you in the past, but then, all depends on what you are after I suppose. Frankly, it is just my nature to hope you enjoy it, whatever it may do for you... John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 05:57:45 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Dave: Your ideas are bit strange, you probably didn't like old ben franklin when he assumed a pen name. I've read Ben Franklin. You're no Ben Franklin. Perhaps you refuse to read books when the author has adopted a pen name? If he claims to speak "the truth" then, no. Have you written books as "John Smith"? Perhaps you despise actors for adopting a stage name? I'm fine with actors. I've watched Alec Baldwin in movies and don't have a problem with him *as an actor*. When Alec Baldwin pontificates on politics, I don't give him any credence. Are you the actor "John Smith"? Perhaps your appreciation of a rose is solely based upon its' name, and "by another name, a rose is NOT a rose?" You may have a point. I'm not likely to purchase a rose bush of the variety "John Smith". Funny, it is principals and NOT personalities which have the true merit and worth--you seem to lack ability to grasp that concept... Your recent stuff reads like the rantings of homeless folks I've encountered in New York. There is little of principal and little of fact. Actually, there's been little of your stuff in which true merit and worth has been addressed or established. a good old buddies club where you only accept argument when it comes from a name you recognize is not available to you always, let me see, in real life those individuals who assign worth of an idea based on the persons identity whose idea it is, is called, in slang mind you, a "Kiss Ass" or "Brown Noser"... you are lost without knowing the identity behind the idea! Not so, "John Smith". If I'm present at a town council meeting, folks are free to state their opinions. They have faces and they give their names. No pseudonyms are permitted and no one stands behind a velvet drape to present his views. Perhaps the voting system of the USA is found in fault with you--it seems to guarantee anonymity... you seem to need a face and a character to attack--character assassination is your forte! You can't walk into any polling place, unregistered and vote. Your identity is known and you've previously presented credentials which establish your right to vote. What is not known on election day is *how you voted*. You don't have a face nor any identifiable character to attack and here I am attacking your statements. Go figure! You seem to avoid argument on only an ideas worth, resorting to attacking thin air in an effort to confuse the unwitting... well, some just must proceed with the handicaps the world, God and nature assigns them, or they choose to shackle themselves with... strange though, how you choose to make yourself a prime example of the close minded "good ole boys" I mention, it almost makes me think you get the idea on some unconscious level and act out emotionally (but in text form) on what is presented--strange... Your recent rantings present wild numbers and unverified percentages of individuals within amateur radio. You've made some unsubstantiated claims about the ARRL and about currently licensed radio amateurs. I'm not going to let you get by with that unchallenged. It is quite easy to hide behind your sofa and make pathetic claims as an anonymous writer. Dave K8MN John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 03:38:08 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Len: As long as evil exists in the world, there will always be a "John Smith" to oppose it--a thousand deaths and the spirit of John Smith will live on. This man is invincible and immortal, death is only a tunnel to the next life, and to pick up the fight of evil men once again! Yep, what we need is more men who hide behind a pseudonym rather than openly standing by their convictions. As "John Smith", you can post your views without any personal repercussions--and you can check into a cheap motel with some floozy. Dave K8MN |
John Smith wrote:
Dave: Cut the BS. You don't like me. I don't like you? I have no idea who or what you are. Right now, you're simply a nameless, faceless entity whose rantings often make him appear to be drinking or heavily medicated. You seek to discredit and make ground though character assassination and any other dirty trick you learned in grade school... no one cares... not even me... stay there if you wish... How can I possibly discredit he who does not exist? I cannot fathom what you get from such, or what rewards such behavior has paid you in the past, but then, all depends on what you are after I suppose. Frankly, it is just my nature to hope you enjoy it, whatever it may do for you... My statement about your not being a Ben Franklin--utterly heartfelt. My statement asking about your being an actor--quite sincere. The bit about my not purchasing a rose plant of the variety "John Smith"? That's likely true. It would have to be one beautiful rose. The part about my not reading books by anonymous individuals attempting to present something as factual--you have my actual view. That bit about a town meeting? Why, "John", that's the way it works. Nobody jumps up anonymously and present material to the council. My correction of your blurb about voting? Take it to the bank. My refutation of your claim about not being able to attack you because you haven't a face or a name? Spot on. My statement questioning your use of numbers and makeup of amateur radio and your claims about the ARRL? They represent very real concerns I have with anonymous trolls who make unsubstantiated claims. So which B.S. is left to cut? Dave K8MN John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 05:57:45 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Dave: Your ideas are bit strange, you probably didn't like old ben franklin when he assumed a pen name. I've read Ben Franklin. You're no Ben Franklin. Perhaps you refuse to read books when the author has adopted a pen name? If he claims to speak "the truth" then, no. Have you written books as "John Smith"? Perhaps you despise actors for adopting a stage name? I'm fine with actors. I've watched Alec Baldwin in movies and don't have a problem with him *as an actor*. When Alec Baldwin pontificates on politics, I don't give him any credence. Are you the actor "John Smith"? Perhaps your appreciation of a rose is solely based upon its' name, and "by another name, a rose is NOT a rose?" You may have a point. I'm not likely to purchase a rose bush of the variety "John Smith". Funny, it is principals and NOT personalities which have the true merit and worth--you seem to lack ability to grasp that concept... Your recent stuff reads like the rantings of homeless folks I've encountered in New York. There is little of principal and little of fact. Actually, there's been little of your stuff in which true merit and worth has been addressed or established. a good old buddies club where you only accept argument when it comes from a name you recognize is not available to you always, let me see, in real life those individuals who assign worth of an idea based on the persons identity whose idea it is, is called, in slang mind you, a "Kiss Ass" or "Brown Noser"... you are lost without knowing the identity behind the idea! Not so, "John Smith". If I'm present at a town council meeting, folks are free to state their opinions. They have faces and they give their names. No pseudonyms are permitted and no one stands behind a velvet drape to present his views. Perhaps the voting system of the USA is found in fault with you--it seems to guarantee anonymity... you seem to need a face and a character to attack--character assassination is your forte! You can't walk into any polling place, unregistered and vote. Your identity is known and you've previously presented credentials which establish your right to vote. What is not known on election day is *how you voted*. You don't have a face nor any identifiable character to attack and here I am attacking your statements. Go figure! You seem to avoid argument on only an ideas worth, resorting to attacking thin air in an effort to confuse the unwitting... well, some just must proceed with the handicaps the world, God and nature assigns them, or they choose to shackle themselves with... strange though, how you choose to make yourself a prime example of the close minded "good ole boys" I mention, it almost makes me think you get the idea on some unconscious level and act out emotionally (but in text form) on what is presented--strange... Your recent rantings present wild numbers and unverified percentages of individuals within amateur radio. You've made some unsubstantiated claims about the ARRL and about currently licensed radio amateurs. I'm not going to let you get by with that unchallenged. It is quite easy to hide behind your sofa and make pathetic claims as an anonymous writer. Dave K8MN John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 03:38:08 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Len: As long as evil exists in the world, there will always be a "John Smith" to oppose it--a thousand deaths and the spirit of John Smith will live on. This man is invincible and immortal, death is only a tunnel to the next life, and to pick up the fight of evil men once again! Yep, what we need is more men who hide behind a pseudonym rather than openly standing by their convictions. As "John Smith", you can post your views without any personal repercussions--and you can check into a cheap motel with some floozy. Dave K8MN |
Dave:
I don't think you much have an "idea" about anything... nor do I care, your banter becomes taxing... I have not only had the chance to see the text you post to me, but others, if I am confused about what the common denominator to all is--well, so be it... however, I have formed an opinion of it, and it not anything which I need be bothered with... John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 06:24:56 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Dave: Cut the BS. You don't like me. I don't like you? I have no idea who or what you are. Right now, you're simply a nameless, faceless entity whose rantings often make him appear to be drinking or heavily medicated. You seek to discredit and make ground though character assassination and any other dirty trick you learned in grade school... no one cares... not even me... stay there if you wish... How can I possibly discredit he who does not exist? I cannot fathom what you get from such, or what rewards such behavior has paid you in the past, but then, all depends on what you are after I suppose. Frankly, it is just my nature to hope you enjoy it, whatever it may do for you... My statement about your not being a Ben Franklin--utterly heartfelt. My statement asking about your being an actor--quite sincere. The bit about my not purchasing a rose plant of the variety "John Smith"? That's likely true. It would have to be one beautiful rose. The part about my not reading books by anonymous individuals attempting to present something as factual--you have my actual view. That bit about a town meeting? Why, "John", that's the way it works. Nobody jumps up anonymously and present material to the council. My correction of your blurb about voting? Take it to the bank. My refutation of your claim about not being able to attack you because you haven't a face or a name? Spot on. My statement questioning your use of numbers and makeup of amateur radio and your claims about the ARRL? They represent very real concerns I have with anonymous trolls who make unsubstantiated claims. So which B.S. is left to cut? Dave K8MN John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 05:57:45 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Dave: Your ideas are bit strange, you probably didn't like old ben franklin when he assumed a pen name. I've read Ben Franklin. You're no Ben Franklin. Perhaps you refuse to read books when the author has adopted a pen name? If he claims to speak "the truth" then, no. Have you written books as "John Smith"? Perhaps you despise actors for adopting a stage name? I'm fine with actors. I've watched Alec Baldwin in movies and don't have a problem with him *as an actor*. When Alec Baldwin pontificates on politics, I don't give him any credence. Are you the actor "John Smith"? Perhaps your appreciation of a rose is solely based upon its' name, and "by another name, a rose is NOT a rose?" You may have a point. I'm not likely to purchase a rose bush of the variety "John Smith". Funny, it is principals and NOT personalities which have the true merit and worth--you seem to lack ability to grasp that concept... Your recent stuff reads like the rantings of homeless folks I've encountered in New York. There is little of principal and little of fact. Actually, there's been little of your stuff in which true merit and worth has been addressed or established. a good old buddies club where you only accept argument when it comes from a name you recognize is not available to you always, let me see, in real life those individuals who assign worth of an idea based on the persons identity whose idea it is, is called, in slang mind you, a "Kiss Ass" or "Brown Noser"... you are lost without knowing the identity behind the idea! Not so, "John Smith". If I'm present at a town council meeting, folks are free to state their opinions. They have faces and they give their names. No pseudonyms are permitted and no one stands behind a velvet drape to present his views. Perhaps the voting system of the USA is found in fault with you--it seems to guarantee anonymity... you seem to need a face and a character to attack--character assassination is your forte! You can't walk into any polling place, unregistered and vote. Your identity is known and you've previously presented credentials which establish your right to vote. What is not known on election day is *how you voted*. You don't have a face nor any identifiable character to attack and here I am attacking your statements. Go figure! You seem to avoid argument on only an ideas worth, resorting to attacking thin air in an effort to confuse the unwitting... well, some just must proceed with the handicaps the world, God and nature assigns them, or they choose to shackle themselves with... strange though, how you choose to make yourself a prime example of the close minded "good ole boys" I mention, it almost makes me think you get the idea on some unconscious level and act out emotionally (but in text form) on what is presented--strange... Your recent rantings present wild numbers and unverified percentages of individuals within amateur radio. You've made some unsubstantiated claims about the ARRL and about currently licensed radio amateurs. I'm not going to let you get by with that unchallenged. It is quite easy to hide behind your sofa and make pathetic claims as an anonymous writer. Dave K8MN John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 03:38:08 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Len: As long as evil exists in the world, there will always be a "John Smith" to oppose it--a thousand deaths and the spirit of John Smith will live on. This man is invincible and immortal, death is only a tunnel to the next life, and to pick up the fight of evil men once again! Yep, what we need is more men who hide behind a pseudonym rather than openly standing by their convictions. As "John Smith", you can post your views without any personal repercussions--and you can check into a cheap motel with some floozy. Dave K8MN |
John Smith wrote:
Dave: I don't think you much have an "idea" about anything... I think I have a goodly number of them. I poked holes in several of your claims--about actors with pseudonyms, about voting, about authors with pen names. You haven't countered them. You're just veering toward something new. nor do I care, your banter becomes taxing... If you think *that's* tough, you should try reading some of your disjointed stuff from this side. I have not only had the chance to see the text you post to me, but others, if I am confused about what the common denominator to all is--well, so be it... You can see the stuff I post in response to others? That's pretty amazing. I can see the stuff you're posting to others too! however, I have formed an opinion of it, and it not anything which I need be bothered with... Yet, you keep bothering. I like the attempt at a condescending, quick dismissal. Dave K8MN John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 06:24:56 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Dave: Cut the BS. You don't like me. I don't like you? I have no idea who or what you are. Right now, you're simply a nameless, faceless entity whose rantings often make him appear to be drinking or heavily medicated. You seek to discredit and make ground though character assassination and any other dirty trick you learned in grade school... no one cares... not even me... stay there if you wish... How can I possibly discredit he who does not exist? I cannot fathom what you get from such, or what rewards such behavior has paid you in the past, but then, all depends on what you are after I suppose. Frankly, it is just my nature to hope you enjoy it, whatever it may do for you... My statement about your not being a Ben Franklin--utterly heartfelt. My statement asking about your being an actor--quite sincere. The bit about my not purchasing a rose plant of the variety "John Smith"? That's likely true. It would have to be one beautiful rose. The part about my not reading books by anonymous individuals attempting to present something as factual--you have my actual view. That bit about a town meeting? Why, "John", that's the way it works. Nobody jumps up anonymously and present material to the council. My correction of your blurb about voting? Take it to the bank. My refutation of your claim about not being able to attack you because you haven't a face or a name? Spot on. My statement questioning your use of numbers and makeup of amateur radio and your claims about the ARRL? They represent very real concerns I have with anonymous trolls who make unsubstantiated claims. So which B.S. is left to cut? Dave K8MN John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 05:57:45 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Dave: Your ideas are bit strange, you probably didn't like old ben franklin when he assumed a pen name. I've read Ben Franklin. You're no Ben Franklin. Perhaps you refuse to read books when the author has adopted a pen name? If he claims to speak "the truth" then, no. Have you written books as "John Smith"? Perhaps you despise actors for adopting a stage name? I'm fine with actors. I've watched Alec Baldwin in movies and don't have a problem with him *as an actor*. When Alec Baldwin pontificates on politics, I don't give him any credence. Are you the actor "John Smith"? Perhaps your appreciation of a rose is solely based upon its' name, and "by another name, a rose is NOT a rose?" You may have a point. I'm not likely to purchase a rose bush of the variety "John Smith". Funny, it is principals and NOT personalities which have the true merit and worth--you seem to lack ability to grasp that concept... Your recent stuff reads like the rantings of homeless folks I've encountered in New York. There is little of principal and little of fact. Actually, there's been little of your stuff in which true merit and worth has been addressed or established. a good old buddies club where you only accept argument when it comes from a name you recognize is not available to you always, let me see, in real life those individuals who assign worth of an idea based on the persons identity whose idea it is, is called, in slang mind you, a "Kiss Ass" or "Brown Noser"... you are lost without knowing the identity behind the idea! Not so, "John Smith". If I'm present at a town council meeting, folks are free to state their opinions. They have faces and they give their names. No pseudonyms are permitted and no one stands behind a velvet drape to present his views. Perhaps the voting system of the USA is found in fault with you--it seems to guarantee anonymity... you seem to need a face and a character to attack--character assassination is your forte! You can't walk into any polling place, unregistered and vote. Your identity is known and you've previously presented credentials which establish your right to vote. What is not known on election day is *how you voted*. You don't have a face nor any identifiable character to attack and here I am attacking your statements. Go figure! You seem to avoid argument on only an ideas worth, resorting to attacking thin air in an effort to confuse the unwitting... well, some just must proceed with the handicaps the world, God and nature assigns them, or they choose to shackle themselves with... strange though, how you choose to make yourself a prime example of the close minded "good ole boys" I mention, it almost makes me think you get the idea on some unconscious level and act out emotionally (but in text form) on what is presented--strange... Your recent rantings present wild numbers and unverified percentages of individuals within amateur radio. You've made some unsubstantiated claims about the ARRL and about currently licensed radio amateurs. I'm not going to let you get by with that unchallenged. It is quite easy to hide behind your sofa and make pathetic claims as an anonymous writer. Dave K8MN John On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 03:38:08 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Len: As long as evil exists in the world, there will always be a "John Smith" to oppose it--a thousand deaths and the spirit of John Smith will live on. This man is invincible and immortal, death is only a tunnel to the next life, and to pick up the fight of evil men once again! Yep, what we need is more men who hide behind a pseudonym rather than openly standing by their convictions. As "John Smith", you can post your views without any personal repercussions--and you can check into a cheap motel with some floozy. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: John Smith wrote: Dave: I don't think you much have an "idea" about anything... I think I have a goodly number of them. I poked holes in several of your claims--about actors with pseudonyms, about voting, about authors with pen names. You haven't countered them. You're just veering toward something new. holes? hmmmm ah it is procoder thing we nocoders would not understand nor do I care, your banter becomes taxing... If you think *that's* tough, you should try reading some of your disjointed stuff from this side. I have not only had the chance to see the text you post to me, but others, if I am confused about what the common denominator to all is--well, so be it... You can see the stuff I post in response to others? That's pretty amazing. I can see the stuff you're posting to others too! however, I have formed an opinion of it, and it not anything which I need be bothered with... break Yet, you keep bothering. I like the attempt at a condescending, quick dismissal. then show some MANNERS and thank the man Dave K8MN |
Dee Flint wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message ... Dee: We are possibly talking about 300,000 hams in the us, that is NOT a large number for a good hobby... compare that to millions of bicyclists, millions of fishermen, millions of bowlers, etc, etc... perhaps skydivers are near that number, 300,000, but only because many of us are too damn smart and won't jump out of a plane with a large sized piece of ripstop nylon attached to us! There are over 600,000 hams in the US. How you quote such dismal numbers in amateur radio as if they/it are something to be proud of does nothing but amaze me! As I have pointed out before, there are MAGNITUDES more illegal aliens here than hams! John In this day and age, any technical or semi-technical hobby is lucky to have any members at all. True, Dee. But there are a number of people hard at work to change that! - Mike KB3EIA - |
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