"John Smith" wrote

K0HB:

Suppose the aliens are running their evil "Confabulator?"

How would a guy ever know then?


Hey, ya know what? We could change the name of the "Steve and Mark **** Fight"
to "The Confabulators"!

From a discussion in another venue, I captured this....

"A confabulator often appears to be unable to recognize the erroneous nature or
absurdity of his statements even in the face of painfully apparent contradictory
evidence. Hence, his replies to questions or statements may appear tangential,
circumlocutious, irrelevant, and delusional. Moreover, rather than relinquishing
an incorrect belief when confronted with contradictory information, these
individuals may make further erroneous extrapolations or partially incorporate
some aspects of the contradictory information within the confabulatory schema."

For example, when a 20-year-old individual who had lost control of his auto and
suffered a serious head injury was questioned about his accident and injuries,
he responded by"attributing his hospitalization to having been in an atomic
explosion which occurred when his rocket ship had crashed. He stated that he was
still filled with radioactive fluid and pointed to the numerous scars on his
body to show where the doctors used needles to remove fluid".

Having read that, doesn't it put Mark and Steve both in a whole new light?

Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB

John Smith wrote:
K0HB:

Suppose the aliens are running their evil "Confabulator?"

you saying Stevie is an Alien?

Does he have a VISA

How would a guy ever know then?


John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:13:09 +0000, K=D8HB wrote:


wrote


You don't need a noise generator, lab full of gear or an EE to know if
your receiver is sensitive enough. Just do this simple test:

1) Tune the rx to an unoccupied frequency, using the mode and bandwidth
you intend to use.

2) Turn off the AGC and turn up the gain until you hear the background
noise roaring away.

3) Disconnect the antenna.

If the noise drops way down, or disappears, you have all the
sensitivity you can use in that application.

You're joking, of course. You can't even get an approximate measure =
of your
receiver sensitivity/noise floor from that test. Suppose, for example,=
that an
active electrical storm is brewing and you're tuned to a 40M QRG. All =
but the
most stone-deaf receivers will give you some room-filling background no=
ise which
will disappear when the antenna is removed.
=20
Beep beep
73, de Hans, K0HB

K=D8HB wrote:
wrote


You don't need a noise generator, lab full of gear or an EE to know if
your receiver is sensitive enough. Just do this simple test:

1) Tune the rx to an unoccupied frequency, using the mode and bandwidth
you intend to use.

2) Turn off the AGC and turn up the gain until you hear the background
noise roaring away.

3) Disconnect the antenna.

If the noise drops way down, or disappears, you have all the
sensitivity you can use in that application.

You're joking, of course. You can't even get an approximate measure of=
your
receiver sensitivity/noise floor from that test. Suppose, for example, t=
hat an
active electrical storm is brewing and you're tuned to a 40M QRG. All bu=
t the
most stone-deaf receivers will give you some room-filling background nois=
e which
will disappear when the antenna is removed.

Isn't that just a tad on the "Captain Obvious" side Hans?


Beep beep

.. . . kerchunk, kerchunk . .=20

73, de Hans, K0HB

w3rv

wrote

You're joking, of course. You can't even get an approximate measure of
your
receiver sensitivity/noise floor from that test. Suppose, for example, that
an
active electrical storm is brewing and you're tuned to a 40M QRG. All but
the
most stone-deaf receivers will give you some room-filling background noise
which
will disappear when the antenna is removed.

Isn't that just a tad on the "Captain Obvious" side Hans?

Apparently not to Jim.

Chirp chirp
de Hans, K0HB

From: an_old_friend on Aug 12, 7:27 pm


John Smith wrote:
K0HB:

Suppose the aliens are running their evil "Confabulator?"

you saying Stevie is an Alien?

Steve Alien died a couple of years ago in Los Angeles. NBC-TV
had his TV show featured on weekends back in the '50s.

Does he have a VISA

Stevie has MASTERCARD! [or is that "Gunnerycard?"] He NEEDS
to be MASTER of everything and everybody.

Maybe Stevie have Green Card? Him green with envy over so
what so many have done? Tsk, tsk.

not him

John Smith wrote:
Len:

Thanks for the background info...

I have already written dave off as just another "yes man" to the status
quo... he is a heckler here and his chief method of operation is
character assassinations...

Oh, damn! His *two* methods here are character assassinations on those
with little character and countering their ridiculous assertions. No,
his *three* methods here are...

Noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Len:

Thanks for the background info...

I have already written dave off as just another "yes man" to the status
quo... he is a heckler here and his chief method of operation is
character assassinations...

Oh, damn! His *two* methods here are character assassinations on those
with little character and countering their ridiculous assertions. No,
his *three* methods here are...

Noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

and No one get the Spanish Inquisition

What we get is the Stevie Inquiisition

with a little helo from you Dave

Dave K8MN

Dave:

Lost with no character/personality to attack, confused?

Focus on what is at discussion, forget who is saying it, may help.

John

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:20:24 +0000, Dave Heil wrote:

John Smith wrote:
Len:

Thanks for the background info...

I have already written dave off as just another "yes man" to the status
quo... he is a heckler here and his chief method of operation is
character assassinations...

Oh, damn! His *two* methods here are character assassinations on those
with little character and countering their ridiculous assertions. No,
his *three* methods here are...

Noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Dave K8MN

an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

John Smith wrote:

Len:

Thanks for the background info...

I have already written dave off as just another "yes man" to the status
quo... he is a heckler here and his chief method of operation is
character assassinations...

Oh, damn! His *two* methods here are character assassinations on those
with little character and countering their ridiculous assertions. No,
his *three* methods here are...

Noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!


and No one get the Spanish Inquisition

What we get is the Stevie Inquiisition

with a little helo from you Dave

Well, a little hello to you too, Mark.

Dave K8MN

John Smith wrote:
Dave:

Lost with no character/personality to attack, confused?

Focus on what is at discussion, forget who is saying it, may help.

John

"John", sounds like the way MoveOn.org works. Are you affiliated?
Should we ignore the veracity of any commenter too?

Dave K8MN

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:20:24 +0000, Dave Heil wrote:


John Smith wrote:

Len:

Thanks for the background info...

I have already written dave off as just another "yes man" to the status
quo... he is a heckler here and his chief method of operation is
character assassinations...

Oh, damn! His *two* methods here are character assassinations on those
with little character and countering their ridiculous assertions. No,
his *three* methods here are...

Noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Dave K8MN