On 15 Aug 2005 01:17:59 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 18:55:44 -0700, wrote in
. com:

He can't. He slipped up one day and said that he was in seven hostile
actions, so everything has been hush hush since then. Len did a nice
expose with respect to Steve's age and the possible periods of service,
and it didn't add up to seven events. In-Your-Face about absolutely
everything else, Steve has yet to set the record straight. Stolen
Valor comes to mind.

I googled a few of his posts. "281.6" isn't a USMC MOS...(SNIP)

What ever you were "Googling", Frank, it wasn't one of MY posts.

All of my MOS's except one started 63xx or 66xx. 8981 was the
fifth.

Most likely you hit one of Lennie's posts wherein he cited one of
his 1950's era MOS's...


Yep. It's been a long day.


snip
I wonder why it is that all of the "supporters" that Brain and
Markie can manage are "anonies"...?!?!


Nothing anonymous about me. What the deal about these "seven hostile
actions"?







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On 15 Aug 2005 01:08:51 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 15:15:28 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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an_old_friend wrote:
KY4Z, that great bully and bragard alleegded Marine.....


Really? What units and when?

"Braggard"

"alleged"

Nothing "braggard about being a Marine, Markie.

Frank, E-mail me directly if you care to. I'd be gald to tell you
directly.


Either you were a Marine or you weren't. Why the secrecy? Did you
serve under Colonel Vinson at Ft. Gordon or something?







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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 16:44:20 -0700, "an_old_friend"
wrote in .com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 15:15:28 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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an_old_friend wrote:
KY4Z, that great bully and bragard alleegded Marine.....


Really? What units and when?

That is a question we have been asking fro YEARS somehow Stevie never
answers


I don't know why anyone would keep their military service a secret
(unless he's really Ollie North). I've always been up front about my
service in the USMC:

For two reasons, Frank...

First and foremost is because we have another "regular" in the
group who goes 180 the opposite direction...He IS every VFW's
nightmare...the guy who "was there" when it's clearly obvious he
wasn't. He's tried on several occassions to pass off as some sort of
"accomplishment" that he was attached to a rear area unit in Japan that
had several KIA's in Korea years before he was even inducted.

I served...I very well may have supported you at one time or
another, but I was mostly a Left Coast/WESTPAC Marine at MCAS Tustin
and MCAS El Toro. But I don't care to even appear to be in the same
"...back when I was..." mode as he.

Secondly I don't see that service as germane to the discussion...I
did let myself get caught up in one of Lennie's tirades and Brain won't
let go of the fact that I won't discuss it any further.

As for folks who "claim" to be something they weren't, the guy
you're buddying up to, Mark Morgan is a piece of work. Since you seem
to have the same disdain for "wannabe warriors" as I, may I suggest
that you Google some of his stuff from 1998/99. Look under "konstans"
or "KB9RQZ" in that time frame.

Markie claimed to be a Colonel in the US Army "Chemical Corps".
Allegedly he thought this would "shut me up" since he didn't like
having his OWN opinions disproven. He further went on to tell us that
he was "drafted", even though he would have only been seven years old
when the last US conscriptee was being DIScharged...When I busted him
on that, he later backed off and said he was "only" a "lieutenant".

The story got even MORE hillarious when he reveraled that he is
gay/bisexual, and that his "CO" refused to release him from active duty
due to the critical nature of his MOS.

Now his story is even more convoluted with some obscure claim of
having been an enlisted man, but we're not even sure enlisted in
"what". Of course his ever widening stories of "threats", "bullying",
etc etc are RRAP classics.

So...before you bestow "wannabe warrior" on me, please take a
moment and consider from whom you're getting your "intel" from.
"Credible" is not an adjective I'd apply to Mark C. Morgan.

Semper Fi

Steve, K4YZ

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:31:42 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote in
:

On 15 Aug 2005 01:17:59 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
s.com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 18:55:44 -0700, wrote in
. com:

He can't. He slipped up one day and said that he was in seven hostile
actions, so everything has been hush hush since then. Len did a nice
expose with respect to Steve's age and the possible periods of service,
and it didn't add up to seven events. In-Your-Face about absolutely
everything else, Steve has yet to set the record straight. Stolen
Valor comes to mind.

I googled a few of his posts. "281.6" isn't a USMC MOS...(SNIP)

What ever you were "Googling", Frank, it wasn't one of MY posts.

All of my MOS's except one started 63xx or 66xx. 8981 was the
fifth.

Most likely you hit one of Lennie's posts wherein he cited one of
his 1950's era MOS's...


Yep. It's been a long day.


I now see the source of my confusion -- those posts would have been a
lot easier to read (i.e, figure out who said what) if you had learned
a little earlier about the standard newsgroup quoting protocol (using
an arrow, , at the beginning of a quoted line).

Now that I have your posts figured out, I see that you do (or did)
tend to brag quite a bit about being a Marine. Hey, I do it myself.
But out here with the civilian crowd it's much easier to speak in
reference to subjects that -they- are familiar with -- the USMC -not-
being one of them. When you cram your military service down their
throats, many of them see it as having an elitist attitude. It's not
your fault, it's not their fault. Wanna blame somebody? Blame the
government -- they tell the military to recruit kids, culture-shock
them into hard-core killing machines, then when their service is
completed dump them back into the civilian population without any sort
of de-programming or re-integration phase. It's not so suprising that
there are a disproportionate number of homeless people that are vets
when you realize that most of them simply never adjusted to civilian
life.....

Anyway, I'm done ranting. Looks like you have been in a flame war with
this guy for over seven years..... do you actually enjoy it? Do you
think you are winning? Or haven't you ever heard of a killfile?








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"K4YZ" wrote:
I wonder why it is that all of the "supporters" that Brain and
Markie can manage are "anonies"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

What's "anonie" about Frank Gilliland?

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Steveo wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote:
I wonder why it is that all of the "supporters" that Brain and
Markie can manage are "anonies"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

What's "anonie" about Frank Gilliland?

Just curious that the only "Frank Gilliland" I can find in FCC
files had his license expire over 2 years ago.

Unless it's a middle name or someone forgot to drop a new 610
(605)?

Steve, K4YZ

an_old_friend wrote:
KY4Z, that great bully and bragard alleegded Marine and Nursie...(SNIP)

Odd...I've never seen KY4Z post here.

And Markie...

...it's "braggard" and "alleged"...

Neither of which is true.

More snipo of stuff boyo just made up to make himself feel
better....

Of course the most likely possiblity is that stevie is just lying ,
again

In order to have been "lying again" there would have had to have
been a first time.

Steve, K4YZ

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:31:42 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote in
:

On 15 Aug 2005 01:17:59 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
s.com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 18:55:44 -0700, wrote in
. com:

He can't. He slipped up one day and said that he was in seven hosti=
le
actions, so everything has been hush hush since then. Len did a nice
expose with respect to Steve's age and the possible periods of servi=
ce,
and it didn't add up to seven events. In-Your-Face about absolutely
everything else, Steve has yet to set the record straight. Stolen
Valor comes to mind.

I googled a few of his posts. "281.6" isn't a USMC MOS...(SNIP)

What ever you were "Googling", Frank, it wasn't one of MY posts.

All of my MOS's except one started 63xx or 66xx. 8981 was the
fifth.

Most likely you hit one of Lennie's posts wherein he cited one of
his 1950's era MOS's...


Yep. It's been a long day.


I now see the source of my confusion -- those posts would have been a
lot easier to read (i.e, figure out who said what) if you had learned
a little earlier about the standard newsgroup quoting protocol (using
an arrow, , at the beginning of a quoted line).

Thanks for stopping by almost eight years later and letting me
know, Frank.

Now that I have your posts figured out, I see that you do (or did)
tend to brag quite a bit about being a Marine.

I guess everyone sees things in degrees, Frank...I have tried to
keep an objective mind after re-reading some of my old posts andjust
don't agree with you. Yes..I let folks know I was a Marine...But NOT
at the point of being "braggard" about it.

Hey, I do it myself.

We did earn it.

But out here with the civilian crowd it's much easier to speak in
reference to subjects that -they- are familiar with -- the USMC -not-
being one of them. When you cram your military service down their
throats, many of them see it as having an elitist attitude.

Again...I don't see myself having "crammed" anything down anyone's
throats, Frank...No more than their lies and deceit have been shoved
down mine.

It's not
your fault, it's not their fault. Wanna blame somebody? Blame the
government -- they tell the military to recruit kids, culture-shock
them into hard-core killing machines, then when their service is
completed dump them back into the civilian population without any sort
of de-programming or re-integration phase. It's not so suprising that
there are a disproportionate number of homeless people that are vets
when you realize that most of them simply never adjusted to civilian
life.....

Anyway, I'm done ranting. Looks like you have been in a flame war with
this guy for over seven years..... do you actually enjoy it? Do you
think you are winning? Or haven't you ever heard of a killfile?

Thankfully it's not been a contiguous seven years. Markie was
gone for the longest time. That pretty much left us with Lennie and
Brain. I see my exchanges with them as being somewhat cathartic.

So..are you the N0IGZ that's expired? If so, why'd you let the
ticket lapse?

Steve, K4YZ

"K4YZ" wrote:
Steveo wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote:
I wonder why it is that all of the "supporters" that Brain and
Markie can manage are "anonies"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

What's "anonie" about Frank Gilliland?

Just curious that the only "Frank Gilliland" I can find in FCC
files had his license expire over 2 years ago.

Unless it's a middle name or someone forgot to drop a new 610
(605)?

Steve, K4YZ

Who said Frank is in the FCC database? As far as I know he's not a ham
radio operator. That doesn't make him "anonie", does it?

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K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
KY4Z, that great bully and bragard alleegded Marine and Nursie...(SNIP)

Odd...I've never seen KY4Z post here.

And Markie...

...it's "braggard" and "alleged"...

Neither of which is true.

both are true


More snipo of stuff boyo just made up to make himself feel
better....

Of course the most likely possiblity is that stevie is just lying ,
again

In order to have been "lying again" there would have had to have
been a first time.

and you qualify more than qualify

Steve, K4YZ