Now that the code test is on it's way to join the buggy whip, we need a new
issue to argue about. There are a lot of threads here devoted to personal
attacks on people I have never heard of. It's getting too much like 80m!

Alun L. Palmer wrote:
Now that the code test is on it's way to join the buggy whip, we need a new
issue to argue about. There are a lot of threads here devoted to personal
attacks on people I have never heard of. It's getting too much like 80m!

well gee you will have to wait a bit longer People Like Stevie, Dave
and Jim Still think there is life in the issue yet, that is what all
the personal attacks are about

Alun:

Agreed!

Some suggestions of mine:

1) How to attract large numbers of new general+ licensees.
2) How to set examples of civil conversation, debate, and exchange.
3) Discussion of other amateur policy which can be adjusted to promoted
increased and improved exchanges.
4) Attempting to encourage arrl into reformation so they do represent all
amateurs and gain additional membership.
5) etc.

John

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:05:44 +0000, Alun L. Palmer wrote:

Now that the code test is on it's way to join the buggy whip, we need a new
issue to argue about. There are a lot of threads here devoted to personal
attacks on people I have never heard of. It's getting too much like 80m!

"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
Now that the code test is on it's way to join the buggy whip, we need a
new
issue to argue about. There are a lot of threads here devoted to personal
attacks on people I have never heard of. It's getting too much like 80m!

How about the best way to "elmer" the flood of upgraders? We're apt to get
a bunch all at once before it levels out once again.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Alun:

Agreed!

Some suggestions of mine:

1) How to attract large numbers of new general+ licensees.
2) How to set examples of civil conversation, debate, and exchange.
3) Discussion of other amateur policy which can be adjusted to promoted
increased and improved exchanges.
4) Attempting to encourage arrl into reformation so they do represent all
amateurs and gain additional membership.
5) etc.

John



Well number 4 is doomed to failure as not all amateurs will join no matter
what the enticements are so it is impossible for them to represent all the
amateurs. Plus they don't even have 100% agreement on issues among the
existing membership so if they try to represent all their members, they are
in an impossible position and will end up doing nothing.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee:

You are a smart girl, in your text you pin-point the problem exactly!

They fail to focus on the issues which ALL amateurs can work out
agreements on. If they run an agenda which only supports a few hams, or
course they are seen as ineffective and a special interest group.

They will either figure that out, or die when the influx of ideas and
demands simple moves them aside...

John

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:03:40 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


"John Smith" wrote in message
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Alun:

Agreed!

Some suggestions of mine:

1) How to attract large numbers of new general+ licensees.
2) How to set examples of civil conversation, debate, and exchange.
3) Discussion of other amateur policy which can be adjusted to promoted
increased and improved exchanges.
4) Attempting to encourage arrl into reformation so they do represent all
amateurs and gain additional membership.
5) etc.

John



Well number 4 is doomed to failure as not all amateurs will join no matter
what the enticements are so it is impossible for them to represent all the
amateurs. Plus they don't even have 100% agreement on issues among the
existing membership so if they try to represent all their members, they are
in an impossible position and will end up doing nothing.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee:

Again, you are right on! Your suggestion will fill a real need and help
advance the society of amateur radio.

I like you better all the time girl!

John

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:00:17 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
Now that the code test is on it's way to join the buggy whip, we need a
new
issue to argue about. There are a lot of threads here devoted to personal
attacks on people I have never heard of. It's getting too much like 80m!

How about the best way to "elmer" the flood of upgraders? We're apt to get
a bunch all at once before it levels out once again.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:
"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
Now that the code test is on it's way to join the buggy whip, we need a
new
issue to argue about. There are a lot of threads here devoted to personal
attacks on people I have never heard of. It's getting too much like 80m!

How about the best way to "elmer" the flood of upgraders? We're apt to get
a bunch all at once before it levels out once again.

just how do you propose to do that, after all we are likely to be a
mixed bunch

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Dee:

You are a smart girl, in your text you pin-point the problem exactly!

They fail to focus on the issues which ALL amateurs can work out
agreements on. If they run an agenda which only supports a few hams, or
course they are seen as ineffective and a special interest group.

They will either figure that out, or die when the influx of ideas and
demands simple moves them aside...

John


My point was that there is no issue on which all amateurs can agree on the
same answer/approach/methodology. Those whose point of view is not adopted,
even if they are a very small minority, will start hollering about the ARRL
serving only a few hams or special interests despite evidence to the
contrary.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dee Flint wrote:
"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
Now that the code test is on it's way to join the buggy whip, we need a
new
issue to argue about. There are a lot of threads here devoted to
personal
attacks on people I have never heard of. It's getting too much like
80m!

How about the best way to "elmer" the flood of upgraders? We're apt to
get
a bunch all at once before it levels out once again.

just how do you propose to do that, after all we are likely to be a
mixed bunch

Which is exactly why such a discussion could be useful.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE