K=D8HB wrote: wrote [sorry, Brian, I know you like Kehler, but he was NOT kind, gracious, or anything else civil to me...as old archives show] That's why a lot of folks like him. 73, de Hans, K0HB I like Jim regardless. Hope he's doing OK. I even like Hans, even though he's misguided at times. Hope he's taking good care of Billy Beeper, got his immunizations up to date, enrolled in private schools, etc. |
John Smith wrote: HHAE: There you have it. One of the simplest, most ridiculous things I have ever seen, if you don't like the message--attack the messenger... ... and he never seems to tire of the same simple game! John I'm suprised that he isn't employed in a box-folding factory. |
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? The same kind of guy that I try to avoid being...the loud mouth at the end of the bar telling everyone how he stormed the beaches...Laguna Beach...Redondo Beach...Panama Beach... You don't mind one bit bing the RRAP loudmouth. Always waving your arms and claiming, "Liar, Liar Pants on Fiar!" Tsk, tsk, tsk...Dudly kept talking about his "seven hostile actions" and implying he was in the thick of them. I've never bragged about being IN any hostile actions. If fact, Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type. I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare) didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were assigned. Nonetheless, I got to work real HF radio communications for three years in a 24/7 radio station...even living IN a two square mile antenna field for a while. [many more antennas there than overweight "scampering" Davie can possibly put up] Just as they have not permitted you to comment about "amateur" radio because you hold no license, NoServers may not comment about the military. Hold on, Sparky. Len has commented here at great length and on many, many occasions. And what has Jim's response been to Len's comments? It has been quite varied and quite mild considering Len's typical insulting demeanor. What Jim hasn't done is to prevent or attempt to prevent Len from making those comments. The PCTA, including Jim Miccolis/N2EY, immediately set upon discrediting Len's comments and opinions. Correct. Questioning or discrediting is not what you claimed. What you said was that Len wasn't permitted to comment. You were incorrect. We were instructed to discard Len's comments. In the end, if they cannot lay waste to Len's comments with rational argument(s)... I've seen any number of Len's comments made to look like the product of one who has little experience. As Len has questioned your net control capabilities. ...they claim that his opinions are simply no good because Len isn't a ham. Sometimes Len's opinions are no good because they are issued because he has no experience in amateur radio. Sometimes his opinions are no good because they are the rantings of a geezer with an ax to grind. Often, he makes factual errors and there have been numerous times when he deliberately fabricates. You want us to believe that all of Len's comments are to be discarded. David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as well. Oh no, I've by no means been "a primary culprit", but I have participated over a period of years. Can you guess how many times you've commented that Len isn't an amateur radio operator? Len isn't involved in amateur radio. He wraps himself in bunting and writes of his Constitutional rights of free speech and to petition his government. Well, he has done those things. Nothing on this planet can prevent me from lauging at him or ridiculing him or his ideas. Nor him you. Len writes of being denigrated or insulted by those who do not agree with his him but he often insults and denigrates those who have the opposite point of view. Perhaps Len is correct to do so. He is quick to tell others that they are not discussing amateur radio policy, Get a clue, he's giving it back to you. He's been told that he is not an amateur radio operator and should be here. This is a place only of amateurs and amateur things. then he goes on a multi-post rant having everything to do with personalities and nothing to do with amateur radio. Have you ever thought of reigning in Robeson? When you do, get back to me about Len and we'll talk some more. You, of course, are Len's little electrolytic acolyte. Dave K8MN And you are the World Famous DXer that works out of band Frenchmen on 6 Meters. |
On 28 Aug 2005 11:09:07 -0700, "
wrote in .com: snip http://www.icehouse.net/wirenut/dogtag.jpg I downloaded your previous three images. Now I know what a "bluenose" is! :-) Hit the tropics on ship and you become a "Turtleback". Please tell me what a "TT" is...it is unfamiliar to one who has never been to the Middle East. That is a telephone token. The telephones in Israel didn't take money because the inflation rate was super high -- when we arrived in the spring the "moneychangers" rate was 200 sheckles to the dollar, and on our last visit in July it was 600 per dollar. And to think people here get upset if the inflation rate rises above 5%..... ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On 28 Aug 2005 05:54:46 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:23:00 GMT, Dave Heil wrote in et: Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine. Feel free to speculate all you want about my service. It's not speculation...You were incompetent. Quite the contrary, Dudly: my proficiency marks were consistently high; it was my conduct marks that took a couple nose-dives. But there's one big difference between me and Dudly that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's something I am most definitely proud to admit. So, the truth is, according to you, that Steve isn't a Marine or that he's lying. That's an assumption made by you and you've offered no proof, just accusations. You haven't been paying attention, Dave. I tossed out several tidbits of info that he would know if his claim was true, but he tripped up and proved that he knew -nothing- of what I was talking about. Bull. Just plain bull. Yada, yada, yada. See below. Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave? I challenge you to expose me as a "military imposter", Frank. Make it your life's work. As far as your last comment: read up on how usenet works. After all, how did Steve's business become *your business*? I see you missed that part, too. I was in here on a totally different issue when someone mentioned that Dudly was a Marine. So I asked him when he served and what units he was with -- a really simple question. Heck, it's not like I was asking him his SSN or something. But that's the way he acted. Up went the red flag. Ever since then he's been tripping over his tongue and frothing like a rabid dog. Now that I have answered -your- question, just why are you defending him with such passion? So far you've "proved" nothing except that YOUR trivia isn't necessarilly someone elses, and even then you've so grossly discredited yourself as to make ANY argument lost. Wrong again, Dudly. Neither of my disciplinary actions resulted in my discharge. I fulfilled the full term of my contract. But after two court-martials my conduct marks were just one tenth of a point too low for an honorable discharge so I got a "General under Honorable". And here is where I know that your claim to have upgraded your discharge is bull**** -- because I -did- upgrade my discharge. (Warning: long story.....) Back in early '85 I injured my knee on a forced march. The corpsman wrote me a light-duty chit that was to stay in effect until I could get to the mainside (Lejeune proper) hospital to have it checked out. But before that could happen we were to go on a field-op. Since I was on light-duty I wasn't supposed to go on the op, but the shop chief (comm shop, not the tech shop) took the chit, put it in his desk and ordered me to go anyway. Since the chain of command was already in the field I couldn't request mast, so I refused the order. He then ordered me to serve on mess duty while awaiting office hours, which I also refused (since I was supposed to be on light-duty). The result was a summary court-martial, a month in the brig and reduction back down to private. And a big hit on my conduct marks. Shortly afterwards I was transferred to 2nd AAV where I was finally allowed to get my knee examined at the hospital. Being an RN and/or LPN you should probably know what a torn lateral -and- medial meniscus means -- pain! Simple orthoscopic surgury fixed it up right as rain. And it also vindicated me of the shop chief's "indiscretion" (as it was called in his reprimand). So after I got my 'general' discharge I challenged my conduct marks based on getting shafted by 3/8's shop chief and won. In the process I learned quite a bit about how a discharge is upgraded; i.e, a general discharge cannot be upgraded to honorable unless there are mitigating circumstances -- circumstances such as mine -- that caused the wrong discharge to be issued. You can't get it upgraded just by asking, for being a good citizen after your discharge, or for any other reasons not related to having been given the wrong discharge. Now a medical discharge is also a "general under honorable" discharge. If you wanted to upgrade -your- discharge then you would have to show that the reasons for your general discharge were wrong; which, in your case, is utterly ridiculous since the reasons were medical. You even went one step further and claimed that you are "USMC Retired", which is absolutely impossible unless you served your full 20 years, which you couldn't possibly do if you had been discharged prior to 20 years for medical reasons. And it's impossible for you to have taken two full years of terminal leave since a) you would have had to serve 24 years without taking -any- leave, and b) they didn't permit anyone to accumulate more than 90 days leave on the books -- you either use it or lose it. So all those claims of yours about your discharge are completely bogus, Dudly. They have absolutely no foundation in reality. Loser. Hoser. Poser. That's Frank of Silliland. Coming from a retired Marine Corps gunny, that's pathetic. If you are going to continue this "truth-by-repitition" charade then at least get someone to ghost-write your posts so you don't sound like a 3rd grade dropout. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On 28 Aug 2005 06:13:18 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:34:14 -0700, Cmdr Buzz corey wrote in : Frank Gilliland wrote: Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about anything I did in the Marines, But the Marines probably do. What's this..... tag-team flame wars? Well, Sparky, you're the one who lit this one. I see you've been swimming in google-juice. Do you want a list of the other names/emails I've used for usenet? I've given references to PUBLIC sources to verify my service, yet you continue ot try and diminish my serivce. Public sources prove nothing -- they are just a source of information to be used for identity theft. HOWEVER, for what ever pea-brained reason you thought it pertinent to do so, you have PROVEN to us that YOU were incapable of honoring your contract with the Marines. And again you are mistaken -- the USMC didn't honor it's contract with ME, which is what led to my -first- court-martial. Do you want to hear that story, too? Sucks to be you, non-rate. Aw, gee, that hurts, Dudly. It's too bad that you get an intrinsic reward from your false sense of superiority, but that's just a typical symptom of your narcissistic personality disorder. Like I suggested before, get some help. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: The PCTA, including Jim Miccolis/N2EY, immediately set upon discrediting Len's comments and opinions. Correct. Questioning or discrediting is not what you claimed. What you said was that Len wasn't permitted to comment. You were incorrect. We were instructed to discard Len's comments. In the end, if they cannot lay waste to Len's comments with rational argument(s)... I've seen any number of Len's comments made to look like the product of one who has little experience. As Len has questioned your net control capabilities. Not quite true either side. I was citing Heil as a CONTROL FREAK that he appears to be from all his postings to me. Evident to all. I have experience in radio. A considerable amount. Most of it is PROFESSIONAL radio...that kind that pays money for services rendered. Heil must not equate government employ in the Department of State as "professional" yet he obviously got MONEY for that, PLUS living expenses. ...they claim that his opinions are simply no good because Len isn't a ham. Sometimes Len's opinions are no good because they are issued because he has no experience in amateur radio. Sometimes his opinions are no good because they are the rantings of a geezer with an ax to grind. Often, he makes factual errors and there have been numerous times when he deliberately fabricates. You want us to believe that all of Len's comments are to be discarded. Heil doesn't like my commenting, therefore I am to be "discarded," discredited, demeaned, and some other "d" I can't think of. :-) David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as well. Oh no, I've by no means been "a primary culprit", but I have participated over a period of years. Can you guess how many times you've commented that Len isn't an amateur radio operator? He has a macro sentence generator for that. :-) I've never said I had an amateur radio license. From day one in here I've stated that I do not. I have a Commercial radio license. But, that constant repetition of "not having a license" masks Heil's INABILITY to reply ON the subject of what he was challenged for. He tries to wiggle out of a challenge by semi-denigrative, moral something or others implying that I should NOT be posting in here. Len isn't involved in amateur radio. He wraps himself in bunting and writes of his Constitutional rights of free speech and to petition his government. Well, he has done those things. Nothing on this planet can prevent me from lauging at him or ridiculing him or his ideas. Nor him you. Heil is a bundle of laughs. :-) Len writes of being denigrated or insulted by those who do not agree with his him but he often insults and denigrates those who have the opposite point of view. Perhaps Len is correct to do so. Tsk tsk tsk. Heil thinks he has some special dispensation that allows him to insult others but others are "not permitted" to fire right back at him. He is quick to tell others that they are not discussing amateur radio policy, Get a clue, he's giving it back to you. He's been told that he is not an amateur radio operator and should be here. This is a place only of amateurs and amateur things. Supposedly. Lots of different things are discussed in here. One such seems to be winding down: The one about evolution versus creationists. All of radio hasn't been around more than 109 years and fits NEITHER. :-) then he goes on a multi-post rant having everything to do with personalities and nothing to do with amateur radio. Have you ever thought of reigning in Robeson? When you do, get back to me about Len and we'll talk some more. Heil must LIKE Dudly...because Dudly attacks me. Heil is living vicariously, enjoying another personally-insult me. "An enemy of an enemy is his friend" to slightly paraphrase an old folk saying. Heil doesn't realize that Dudly's fraudulent behavior is HURTING the image of U.S. amateur radio. Miccolis can't rein-in Dudly. Hans Brakob couldn't hold him down. Katapult Kellie doesn't seem to have tried either way. Jeswald hasn't said much. NOT a good case for building a good image of U.S. amateur radio to the public. |
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