Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:02:23 GMT, Dave Heil , AMATEUR radio operator and defender of liars and identity thieves, wrote in t: I think the "tag line editorial" leaves us with a pretty good idea of "Frank's" real identity...Sure LOOKS familiar! No, like Frank "Not-a-model-Marine" Gilliland. Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about anything I did in the Marines, not even the actions that resulted in my loss of rank. "...not even the actions that resulted in my loss of rank..." Whelp...that pretty well answers most of why Frank of Silliland has taken this opportunity to "diss" a SNCO Marine. But there's one big difference between me and Dudly that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's something I am most definitely proud to admit. Frank, if that IS your name... You're a loser AND a liar... Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave? Of what business do YOU have, Frank of Silliland? Dave's got a lot more in common with me than you do. You obviously have no AMATEUR RADIO issues to discuss. You came in "guns-a-blazin" over "military" credentials, only for it to be found out you're a disgraced non-rated enlisted yourself. Some "resource" YOU turned out to be! Frank Gilliland is a disgraced liar. Period. Steve, K4YZ |
Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 01:23:09 -0500, "T-10" anon@jumper wrote in : Whether or not you approve of Veterans such as W4NTI or K4YZ, the fact remains that they SERVED! No, that's not a fact. K4YZ has, through his own words, proved beyond any reasonable doubt that he did -NOT- serve, at least not in the capacity he claims. Yes, I did serve, and you're a disgraced liar, Frankie. And that WAS through your own words! You claim that MY "words" prove I didn't serve. You're a liar. Period. It's probably part-and-parcel why you left the Marines as a PFC instead of as an NCO or SNCO, and is also no doubt as to why you entered this flame fest to start one of your own. I've run into many of these impersonators over the years...(SNIP) YOU'RE the "impersonator", "Frankie"... "Impersonating" someone who served Honorably... most of whom claim to be Viet-Nam vets that did "secret ops" or worked independently "behind enemy lines", and often quoting lines from the movies "Apocolypse, Now", "Platoon" and "Full Metal Jacket" (and even that early Jack Webb movie). But ask them for proof and they clam up and get all defensive, just like K4YZ, and now K8MN. No "defensive"...No "secretive". While you Chairborne Hams were nit-picking over license qualifications these two guys were serving their, and YOUR, country. I defer to K8MN. He is correct and "on the money". Would that the rest of you do the same. Honor is earned, not stolen. By defending a valor-thief you are subverting your own intentions and disrespecting those who -did- serve, those who are serving right now, and those who have died and will die in the future. Words spoken by a non-hacking, busted-to-non-rate loser. I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo unimpressed! If you want to do the right thing then don't let yourself be fooled by these fakes -- any true vet will have no problem with showing proof of service when asked. I have "proof of service", Frankie, and offered more than enough non-Privacy Act protected sources for any marginally interested person to find the results themselves...Even specific dates of promotion boards... You're a liar and a loser, Gilliland. and now YOU have been exposed. Go ahead...let's see what excuse or rationalization you spin up for this... Steve, K4YZ |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:20:29 -0500, "T-10" anon@jumper wrote in
: correct and "on the money". Would that the rest of you do the same. Honor is earned, not stolen. By defending a valor-thief you are subverting your own intentions and disrespecting those who -did- serve, those who are serving right now, and those who have died and will die in the future. If you want to do the right thing then don't let yourself be fooled by these fakes -- any true vet will have no problem with showing proof of service when asked. /////////////// And just where you step in is indeed a question. You, as easily as the others, can be just as much a "fake". Fair enough. Here, for your viewing pleasure, is a scan of part of my DD-214 (with DOB blocked out). It's in high resolution so you can analyze it should you think it's a forgery: http://www.icehouse.net/wirenut/dd214ex.jpg Here's my bluenose card: http://www.icehouse.net/wirenut/bluenose.jpg And just to see how well it would scan, here's something I picked up in Haifa. Know what it is? The name of the file is a clue: http://www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tt.jpg Any more doubts? Need more proof? I don't know you, so for all I know you are a Troll. I know Dan, W4NTI, and I know of his service. Dan has earned, in your childish words, his "honor". So also have several other Veterans who comment in this or other groups. Where, in any of my posts, did I refer to W4NTI? I didn't. The issue is Dudly, not anyone else. So why drag yet another person into the fray? I, unlike you, don't question the service of fellow Veterans. I accept them as they are. Sorry, but after all the fake vets I've met over the years I'm not so easily fooled. Nor do I conclude that something is true just because someone says so. It has been, and will continue to be my practice to give a hand salute to all Vets. Now, about jumping a T-10 chute...ever been there? How about a name? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:20:29 -0500, "T-10" anon@jumper wrote in I don't know you, so for all I know you are a Troll. I know Dan, W4NTI, and I know of his service. Dan has earned, in your childish words, his "honor". So also have several other Veterans who comment in this or other groups. Where, in any of my posts, did I refer to W4NTI? I didn't. The issue is Dudly, not anyone else. So why drag yet another person into the fray? Sorry, Frankie...the issue now is YOU... By YOUR own words, you're a disgraced, busted-to-nonrate ex-Marine who obviously has a serious chip on his shoulder...Not "left behind" due to over-billeting of MOS's or other personnel issues beyond your control, but through some act of negligence or misconduct. You were in an MOS that the Marine Corps spent a lot of money in order to get you there, yet they deemed you UNFIT to leave the Corps after less than 4 years as anything but a Private First Class. A loser. Ironically you refered to yourself as a "####bird PFC"... Unfortuantely I knew more than my fair share of "####birds", but most of them at least managed to get their tours done HONORABLY and get out the door as Corporals or even Sergeants after a 4 year tour. At least on the six occassions I got to stand in front of a Marine officer in regards to my rank, it was prefaced with the words "To All Who Shall See These, Greetings..." Guess Frankie of Silliland wasn't listening when the repeated the words about "Special Trust and Confidence"...Because that's exactly what being a Marine is all about. And Frankie couldn't hack it... Loser. Steve, K4YZ |
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:02:23 GMT, Dave Heil , AMATEUR radio operator and defender of liars and identity thieves, wrote in t: snip Steve acts as if status as a lower-ranking Marine is something to be denigrated. Do you think being repeatedly busted to a lower rank is something to be proud of? Like Billy Mitchell? No, like Frank "Not-a-model-Marine" Gilliland. Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about anything I did in the Marines, not even the actions that resulted in my loss of rank. Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine. But there's one big difference between me and Dudly that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's something I am most definitely proud to admit. So, the truth is, according to you, that Steve isn't a Marine or that he's lying. That's an assumption made by you and you've offered no proof, just accusations. Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave? I challenge you to expose me as a "military imposter", Frank. Make it your life's work. As far as your last comment: read up on how usenet works. After all, how did Steve's business become *your business*? Dave K8MN |
Dave remarked, "You told us that you weren't a model Marine."
My son saved some "GI Joe Action Figures", while not exactly a "model marine", you can pose them realistically and stage pseudo-military scenarios which might be more entertaining than you find here... I'd loan ya a couple if you get bored... John On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:23:00 +0000, Dave Heil wrote: You told us that you weren't a model Marine. |
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank of Silliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:02:23 GMT, Dave Heil , AMATEUR radio operator and defender of liars and identity thieves, wrote in t: snip Steve acts as if status as a lower-ranking Marine is something to be denigrated. Do you think being repeatedly busted to a lower rank is something to be proud of? Like Billy Mitchell? No, like Frank "Not-a-model-Marine" Gilliland. Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about anything I did in the Marines, not even the actions that resulted in my loss of rank. Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine. By a far stretch. He was in an expensive technical MOS (Ground Radar Repair). You've got to go out of your way to get the USMC to send you home as a PFC with 3 1/2 years of service..."####bird" was an understatement on Frankie's part. The rank of PFC and the less-than-four year tour lends one to believe that the reason he didn't publish the other 3/4ths of his -214 was that somewhere on that form it said "LESS THAN HONORABLE", or one of those categories of discharge. But there's one big difference between me and Dudly that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's something I am most definitely proud to admit. So, the truth is, according to you, that Steve isn't a Marine or that he's lying. That's an assumption made by you and you've offered no proof, just accusations. And O N L Y accusations, Dave. They claim I am "hiding behind the Privacy Act", but I have offered them more than adequate PUBLIC resources to validate my service. This ludicrous spin about how I am one Steven Robeson claiming the service of another is assinine. Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave? I challenge you to expose me as a "military imposter", Frank. Make it your life's work. As far as your last comment: read up on how usenet works. After all, how did Steve's business become *your business*? Frankie will do nothing of the kind, Dave. He was given adequate resources to validate my service...MORE than adequate if we were to take his not-so-subtle suggestions of having resources that "you don't even know about" at his disposal. Yet he claims that he's "most definitely proud to admit" how truthful he is. He's all three of the "oser's" Hoser Poser Loser Frankie's done himslef in, Dave, just like Lennie, Markie, Toiddie and Brain have done in turn... The Feeble Five. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:23:00 GMT, Dave Heil wrote
in et: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:02:23 GMT, Dave Heil , AMATEUR radio operator and defender of liars and identity thieves, wrote in t: snip Steve acts as if status as a lower-ranking Marine is something to be denigrated. Do you think being repeatedly busted to a lower rank is something to be proud of? Like Billy Mitchell? No, like Frank "Not-a-model-Marine" Gilliland. Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about anything I did in the Marines, not even the actions that resulted in my loss of rank. Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine. Feel free to speculate all you want about my service. But there's one big difference between me and Dudly that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's something I am most definitely proud to admit. So, the truth is, according to you, that Steve isn't a Marine or that he's lying. That's an assumption made by you and you've offered no proof, just accusations. You haven't been paying attention, Dave. I tossed out several tidbits of info that he would know if his claim was true, but he tripped up and proved that he knew -nothing- of what I was talking about. Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave? I challenge you to expose me as a "military imposter", Frank. Make it your life's work. As far as your last comment: read up on how usenet works. After all, how did Steve's business become *your business*? I see you missed that part, too. I was in here on a totally different issue when someone mentioned that Dudly was a Marine. So I asked him when he served and what units he was with -- a really simple question. Heck, it's not like I was asking him his SSN or something. But that's the way he acted. Up went the red flag. Ever since then he's been tripping over his tongue and frothing like a rabid dog. Now that I have answered -your- question, just why are you defending him with such passion? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Frank:
When you are all done, won't what he said which is true still be true, and what he said which is false still be false... Or, are you making a case that you can now claim the truth, if he stated it, is now false? If so, I must admit, I don't understand how that would be any where near accurate... John On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:14:25 -0700, Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:23:00 GMT, Dave Heil wrote in et: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:02:23 GMT, Dave Heil , AMATEUR radio operator and defender of liars and identity thieves, wrote in t: snip Steve acts as if status as a lower-ranking Marine is something to be denigrated. Do you think being repeatedly busted to a lower rank is something to be proud of? Like Billy Mitchell? No, like Frank "Not-a-model-Marine" Gilliland. Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about anything I did in the Marines, not even the actions that resulted in my loss of rank. Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine. Feel free to speculate all you want about my service. But there's one big difference between me and Dudly that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's something I am most definitely proud to admit. So, the truth is, according to you, that Steve isn't a Marine or that he's lying. That's an assumption made by you and you've offered no proof, just accusations. You haven't been paying attention, Dave. I tossed out several tidbits of info that he would know if his claim was true, but he tripped up and proved that he knew -nothing- of what I was talking about. Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave? I challenge you to expose me as a "military imposter", Frank. Make it your life's work. As far as your last comment: read up on how usenet works. After all, how did Steve's business become *your business*? I see you missed that part, too. I was in here on a totally different issue when someone mentioned that Dudly was a Marine. So I asked him when he served and what units he was with -- a really simple question. Heck, it's not like I was asking him his SSN or something. But that's the way he acted. Up went the red flag. Ever since then he's been tripping over his tongue and frothing like a rabid dog. Now that I have answered -your- question, just why are you defending him with such passion? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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