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Old August 30th 05, 11:30 PM
 
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K4YZ wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 30 Aug 2005 02:05:50 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in


to try
and diminish MY service.


You haven't provided -any- proof that you served -at all-!


I still haven't found the part that says I owe you one, Frankie.



RE-4YZ is loooooong on demands, short on answers. Everyone owes Steve
proof. Steve owes nothing.

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Old August 31st 05, 02:14 AM
 
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From: on Tues 30 Aug 2005 03:55


wrote:
From: on Aug 28, 6:02 pm
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:


snip

In the end, if they cannot
lay waste to Len's comments with rational argument(s)...

I've seen any number of Len's comments made to look like the product of
one who has little experience.

As Len has questioned your net control capabilities.


Not quite true either side. I was citing Heil as a CONTROL FREAK
that he appears to be from all his postings to me. Evident to all.


Closing a net with CW?


The "CW" in that case would be a "Coder's Wisdom"; i.e., one
where all wisdom derives from skill at morsemanship.


I have experience in radio. A considerable amount. Most of it is
PROFESSIONAL radio...that kind that pays money for services
rendered.

Heil must not equate government employ in the Department of State
as "professional" yet he obviously got MONEY for that, PLUS living
expenses.


Obviously he's not professional.


He's a "was-pro" in that the U.S. government paid him for his
services. At the same time he's been an amateur (one who is NOT
paid for his services) for 40 years, presumably "working" at least
8 hours a day, 5 days a week at his ham radio hobby. :-)



Sometimes Len's opinions are no good because they are issued because he
has no experience in amateur radio. Sometimes his opinions are no good
because they are the rantings of a geezer with an ax to grind. Often,
he makes factual errors and there have been numerous times when he
deliberately fabricates.

You want us to believe that all of Len's comments are to be discarded.


Heil doesn't like my commenting, therefore I am to be "discarded,"
discredited, demeaned, and some other "d" I can't think of. :-)


demonized.


Oho! Heil is an "exorcist?" :-)


David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as
well.

Oh no, I've by no means been "a primary culprit", but I have
participated over a period of years.

Can you guess how many times you've commented that Len isn't an amateur
radio operator?


He has a macro sentence generator for that. :-)


And there is a purpose for his stating that you're not an amateur.


Of course. Heil can't stay on the subject of a thread so he
attempts personal insults and/or deinigrations in order to win
message points for himself.


But, that constant repetition of "not having a license" masks Heil's
INABILITY to reply ON the subject of what he was challenged for. He
tries to wiggle out of a challenge by semi-denigrative, moral
something or others implying that I should NOT be posting in here.


Every time.


Evident to all.


Len isn't involved in amateur
radio. He wraps himself in bunting and writes of his Constitutional
rights of free speech and to petition his government. Well, he has done
those things. Nothing on this planet can prevent me from lauging at him
or ridiculing him or his ideas.

Nor him you.


Heil is a bundle of laughs. :-)


Among other things.


Isn't the French equivalent of Heil's "laughs" called "merde?" :-)


Tsk tsk tsk. Heil thinks he has some special dispensation that allows
him to insult others but others are "not permitted" to fire right back
at him.


He reaps what he sows.


He needs Crop Rotation. He can already spread fertilizer...


Heil must LIKE Dudly...because Dudly attacks me. Heil is living
vicariously, enjoying another personally-insult me. "An enemy of
an enemy is his friend" to slightly paraphrase an old folk saying.


I can't imagine anyone "liking" RE-4YZ. Steve merely serves a purpose.


"Serves a purpose?" Yes, I suppose, much like the Antichrist.


Heil doesn't realize that Dudly's fraudulent behavior is HURTING
the image of U.S. amateur radio.

Miccolis can't rein-in Dudly. Hans Brakob couldn't hold him down.
Katapult Kellie doesn't seem to have tried either way. Jeswald
hasn't said much. NOT a good case for building a good image of
U.S. amateur radio to the public.


Noop! But if that's who they want out in front creating a new thread
or five every day....


...and INSULTING each and every person who contradicts him or just
expresses an opposing viewpoint. NOT a good image.



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Old August 31st 05, 04:02 AM
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John Smith wrote:
K0HB:

Sounds to me like you need a history lesson!

The crusades were wars against the same enemy we have today, muslim
terrorists--of course the muslims were/are claiming the christians (you
know, the guys whose motto is "turn the other cheek") were/are the "bad
guys." If they win this war, they will be claiming it in american
streets--the only good muslim is a dead one, I would volunteer to help...
actually, we only continue this crusades started long ago...


Spoken like a fellow who doesn't actually know any Muslims, "John".

Dave K8MN
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Old August 31st 05, 04:33 PM
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Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 29 Aug 2005 08:01:26 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 25 Aug 2005 04:12:57 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Silliland wrote:

Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my
Blue Nose card.

What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him?

The same kind of guy that I try to avoid being...the loud mouth at
the end of the bar telling everyone how he stormed the beaches...Laguna
Beach...Redondo Beach...Panama Beach...

Try Myrtle Beach and Huntington Beach -- the latter should be required
duty for every single Marine!


Was at Myrtle Beach as a TME'er with VMFA-333 and got tired of
Huntington Beach driving by it all the time while stationed at MCAS(H)
Tustin.


I see you took my advice and hired a ghost-writer. Either that or you
finally did a little research before coughing up more BS.


No "ghost writing" needed here, Frankie the Liar.

Didya catch the part where he says he was ONLY a "####bird
PFC"...?!??!

Sheesh...even Lennie made E5...

I made Lance Corporal before I could get the "cash sales" smell
out of my uniforms...

If that's true then you must have skated right through boot camp.....
especially the gas chamber.


How many sets of your Class A's did you wear IN the gas chamber,
Frankie...?!?!


Where did you specify Alpha's, Dudly?


I didn't, but you suggested that I wasn't wearing out that "Cash
Sales" smell otherwise.

Corporal on the second round of cutting scores
(and that was in the rank-tight Avionics MOS of 6616)

Very impressive, especially when enlisted in the only branch of the
military that doesn't use cutting scores for promotions.


They did in the 70's, Frankie.


No, they didn't, Dudly.


Yes they did, Frankie the Liar.

...Sergeant in
less three years of my arrival in boot camp...

Which means you were promoted only twice in the 15 years that
followed. A record to be proud of, I'm sure.


I wasn't the only Sergeant in the Avionics field that had to suck
air for promotions, Frankie...

Too bad your frame of reference doesn't seem to expand beyond your
knee and your two court martials.


Plural of 'court-martial' is 'courts-martial'.


Some resource on USMC policy Frank of Silliland turned out to be!


Your ignorance about the Marine Corps is exceeded only by your
third-grade rhetoric -- hopefully that Pee-Wee Herman seminar you
attended didn't include tips on public masterbation.


Well now, Frankie! I see who's pulling THIS into the sandlot!

Gotta hurt, though...I am sure that, for a couple of days, it felt
"good" taking some swipes at someone who managed to accomplish
something you DIDN'T in the Marines...make it to a Staff NCO rank.



Two promotions in 15 years as a staff NCO, selected by cutting scores
that were never used, and granted with promotion certificates you
can't read. Yeah, you sure made your case, Dudly.


Hey screwball...

WHERE did I say SNCO ranks were selected by cutting
scores...?!?!

SNCO's never were...

But LPCL through Sergeant were! PFC was almost automatic unless
you picked your nose in morning formation.

You're such an idiot.

Steve, K4YZ



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Old August 31st 05, 05:41 PM
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Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 30 Aug 2005 02:33:51 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 29 Aug 2005 16:02:15 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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wrote:
Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 28 Aug 2005 05:54:46 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in

Since the chain of command was already in the
field I couldn't request mast, so I refused the order. He then ordered
me to serve on mess duty while awaiting office hours, which I also
refused (since I was supposed to be on light-duty). The result was a
summary court-martial, a month in the brig and reduction back down to
private. And a big hit on my conduct marks.

It's all becoming very, very clear.

Was the shop chief an "A" NCOIC with a God complex?

It wouldn't matter.

Frankie took a spill over one of his own "trip ups".

A Marine has the RIGHT to Request Mast to HIGHER headquarters
irrespective of the consent or advice of the lower level command.

That his "chain of command" was "in the field" was irrelevent.

He had recource. He didn't pursue it.

Obviously the OIC of the Court Martial wasn't impressed with
Frankie's story, either. USMC Court Martials don't like having
judgements overturned on appeal anymore than civilian courts do, and
had Frankie had VALID reason for refusing an order, they would have,
at the very least, returned the issue back to his commander for Article
15 (Office Hours). Seemingly he HAD that reason. There's more to the
"big story" than Frankie's telling of it...


Nothing that you couldn't figure out from what I told you already. The
presiding officer ("OIC of the Court Martial"? LOL!) made his decision
based on the evidence and testimony presented, which -didn't- include
the medical evaluation from mainside hospital because that had not yet
occured. You also missed the part about the shop chief getting a
reprimand for lifting my light-duty chit and giving me an illegal
order. It's clear that you can't comprehend anything that doesn't fit
into your twisted little fantasies.


I understand them fine.

You violated a lawful order and took your chances for it.

And if there was mitigating evidence as to your culpability in
your court martials, they could have been overturned on appeal.

Obviously they weren't.


Because they weren't appealed, or couldn't you figure that out by
yourself? You can appeal a summary court martial on an issue of law or
an issue of procedure, but not based on evidence that wasn't available
or not presented at the hearing. Hence, no appeal. 18 alleged years in
the USMC and you don't know squat about the UCMJ......


I know more than you think.

I also know your convictions can still be appealed.

Guess you don't care enough to fix them...or you were trutly
guilty as charged and just don't want to get your nose rubbed in your
Silliness again...

And as far as "trip ups" are concerned, let's take a closer look at
your postings lately...... Since I started confronting your lies with
facts your entire personality has changed. You used to be relatively
calm and controlled, but now your posts are filled with nothing but
repititious 'Hermanesque' catch-phrases and buzzwords that only -you-
think are effective at bolstering your credibility.


My "credibility" doesn't hinge on one tour in the USMC that was
pock-marked with not one but two court martials.


No, it's dependent upon the ability to independently verify the claims
you have presented as facts; but alas, your claims CONTRADICT the
facts while mine don't. Ergo, -you- have no credibility and I -do-.


Based on what?

A less than Honorable discharge?

Yeeeah...Right.

You're the one in the credibility deficit, Frankie.


Only in -your- eyes, Dudly, because you deny the facts.


What facts?

That you were incompetent as a Marine and twice court martialed?

I accept that. You have certainly proven your worthiness of the
discharge you received here, that's for sure.

Nor does my "credibility" in this NG count on ANY of my service in
the Corps...This is an Amatuer Radio forum, and I am an Amateur Radio
operator.


So? It's not like there haven't ever been any off-topic threads in
this group before.


For once you come close to some truth.

That didn't hurt too bad, did it?

You're not. Nor is Lennie. And it shows. (And that's NOT a
"positive" thing...)


Where, in the charter, does it require that anyone who posts here be a
ham?


It doesn't. But your snide, "Cut their throats any way possible"
attitude shows...

You used to try
and exert control over your challengers by starting new threads with
almost every reply, yet for the past week you can't seem to break out
of -this- thread.


If you were paying attention, Frankie, the threads were in
response to MARKIE'S frequent changes.


So you have the mentality of a lemming -- as if -that's- a suprise....


As do you...Following your Feeble Five brothers without detour...

And it seems to me that "Laying Waste To Frank of Silliland's


Especially considering the source of the phrase -- someone that would
rather call me schoolyard names instead of addressing the facts.


They've been "addressed", Frankie.

You just insist on continuing to try and make it appear otherwise.

But I really am suprised that you haven't started with the Gilligan jokes;
like, "Hey Frank, where's the professor?", or "How come you haven't
bopped Mary Ann?"


Perhaps the Professor bores easily and Mary Ann has better
taste...?!?!

After all, that type of rhetoric certainly isn't
beneath you, as you have proven in the past few days. Were you saving
those quips for later? Naw, you probably aren't smart enough to think
of stuff like that -- I didn't start to hear the Gilligan jokes until
5th or 6th grade, and you seem to be limited to a 3rd grade education.


As a matter of fact, no, I hadn't thought of any "Gilligan" jokes,
nor would I have...

But YOU did, which leads me to wonder from what scarred psyche you
draw that from.

As for the "last few days", I point out that YOU have done nothing
but simply go from being marginally plausible in your arguments to
being absolutely comical.

You used to be the spelling cop, but now almost
every post by you has several spelling errors because of the frantic
rage that comes over you when replying to my posts.


No more than any other, Frankie.

Nice try.


Nice try yourself; just a couple weeks ago you prided yourself on your
ability to correct others on -their- spelling, putting yourself on an
intellectual pedestal above everyone else. But all of a sudden you
can't even find the spell-check button. Now you excuse yourself from
bad spelling by claiming that you are just as faulty as everyone else.
You fell off your pedestal, Dudly.


I never was on one, Frankie, and had never put myself over anyone.

Had you been paying attention at some time in the past, you would
have known that.

And you ahve tried to make some "points" about typing mistakes I
ahve made, yet have had a few of your own..Big deal.



The difference is that I never tried to be the spelling cop. You did.
Once again, it's not about me, Dudly. It's about you and your lies (or
hypocrisy, as the case may be).


What lies?

What hipocracy?

All your defensive tag-team parters have abandoned you.


So someone doesn't post for 24 hours and they've "abandoned" the
thread?


Dave Heil was quite passionate about your defense, yet even -he-
hasn't posted for quite a while. Maybe he started looking at the
situation objectively and saw that you -are- a fraud. Who knows. I'm
sure he will speak for himself on the subject..... eventually.


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! I see...Someone doesn't tow your line for more
than a post or two and they have "abandoned" something...

Most of what "goes on" in this forum HAS been going one for YEARS,
Frankie...The "last few days" is irrelevent in the over all scheme of
things.

Or maybe they just realize that you're the loser you've turned out
to be...


Well, if -they- realized that much, why haven't you? You could have
simply put me in your killfile and be done with me, just like you
could have done with Len and others. Nope, you need to keep tabs on me
and others so as to make sure that you can counter any bit of proof
that exposes you as a liar. Your "friends" have abandoned you because
they have no interest in defending your lies.


What lies?

Neither you nor any of the other Feeble Five have proven a single
one, Frankie.

No, I am not predisposed to copying and posting my military
records, but I HAVE provided more than a few PUBLIC reference to
records that verify my having served.

YOUR lie disposed of.

In your frenzy of hatred you
don't even realize that you frequently contradict your previous
claims, sometimes even in the same sentence; e.g, "My original says
'HONORABLE.'" Yes it does, Dudly, but you left out a few words, like
"General under 'Honorable' conditions". And if your "original" was
honorable then there's no need to get it changed.


Mine just says "HONORABLE", Your Busted-to-Nonratedness. JUST
"Honorable". No qualifiers.



That's all it says, huh? An 8-1/2" x 11" sheet of paper that has only
one word printed on it: "HONORABLE". No qualifiers that would indicate
to whom or what the word is referring, who printed it, who authorized
it, or even why it exists? Whatever you say, Dudly.


Nice try again, Frankie.

You're getting lame.

And again you try to base what happened to YOU as the one-and-only
truthfulness of the Marine Corps.

You're a disgraced loser, Frankie. There's nothing I can do to
fix that.

And now it appears that "liar" is appropriate for you, too.


And even after your tirade about me snipping your posts you just
snipped my point about your "HONORABLE" discharge being "original"
while claiming to have had it later upgraded. That's evasive, Dudly.
So what does your -REVISED- discharge certificate say?


What you quote as "upgraded" was nothing of the sort.

But it seems YOU are all about fighting other people's fights, all
the while trying to "diss" others who speak up in support of me.

Just one more bogus
excuse after another. Rarely do you reply to any post that confronts
you with hard facts -- instead you seek posts that you think you can
spin and maybe bluff yourself into a positive light. Even when you
-do- address hard facts you are always wrong; e.g, the USMC didn't use
cutting scores for promotions in the '70's, either.


Lie, lie and more lie, Frankie.


Prove it. Prove me wrong, Dudly. Post any sort of convincing proof
that you are who you claim. Anything that I have posted to prove my
-own- service will be just fine (except for the telephone token, of
course).


Already proven "wrong" by (1) my name and picture on several sites
and (2) by providing refrence to public records that you have already
"dismissed".

Stop it. You're embarrassing yourself. You're embarrassing me.


You're embarrassing yourself but you are too embellished in your lies
to admit it -- probably even to yourself.


Nope.

I tell the truth
about my service, good or bad; but while all you do is try to crush my
credibility by dwelling on my mistakes, you don't even realize that
openly admitting my mistakes gives me more credibility than you will
-ever- achieve.


Congratulations on being able to look yourself in the mirror and
convince yourself that having been court martialed twice is a prideful
thing, Frankie.


So you are trying once again to misrepresent my statements -- I said
nothing of the sort. I -am- proud of what I have accomplished in life,
and I -am- proud to have the integrity to be honest about who I am.
Apparently these simple concepts elude your understanding. That's
something for which you can blame your mommy and daddy -- clearly they
didn't teach you about such virtues as honesty and integrity.


I am not misrepresenting your statements in the least.

You present yourself here as some sort of "authority" on
all-things-Marine, but have been proven to have been an incompetent
Marine...Yet you wear your failure like some badge of honor...

That you put your failed USMC service up front is nothing to be
proud of other than to admit to yourself that you did indeed fail to do
what you promised you'd do.

I was never a "poster" Marine, nor was I guest of honor at any of
the presentations at 8th and I, but I DID manage to serve without a
single black mark in my SRB.

Maybe you can teach that technique to some of the folks who appear
on "America's Most Wanted".


Why would I do that? The criminals that are profiled may have the same
anti-social characteristics as you, but as far as I know you haven't
done anything so bad as to get your mug-shot shown on national TV.....
or have you?


Nice twist..smooth...avoided the bullet but still close enough to
hear it whistle by your ear...

And then there's the biggie: You put -so much- effort
into protecting your story when it would be so much easier to just
scan your DD-214, or discharge certificate, or dog-tag, etc, block out
the important info just like I did, and post it. The issue would be
resolved and you wouldn't be challenged any more. But you don't
because your claims are nothing but lies and you -love- the attention.


And you...?!?!



I have already posted more than enough info to prove my service
-beyond- the scope of public records, yet short of disclosing my SSN.
I showed you that it -can- be done, and -how- it can be done. What's
your excuse -NOW-?


What "excuse" do I need?

I HAVE provided reference to public records, and those records are
as irrefuteable as the Privacy Act protected ones.

You need to learn how to use effective paragraphs, Frankie.


What does that have to do with your failure to provide proof of your
USMC service?


I haven't failed.

You simply refuse to accept that it's the truth. That's YOUR
problem, frankie, not mine.

As for the rest, I've provided more than a few public resources to
validate my "claims", as you call them through...


What does it mean to "call them through..."? Is that how to use
"effective paragraphs"?

YOUR answer was to claim that they were, most likely, just someone
with a similar name claiming someone else's "service".


It's just another type of "identity theft" and it happens all the
time. Don't you watch the news?


Sure I do.

And it's not applicable here.

It's just a Feeble Five attempt to avoid the truth.

Even if I do provide a copy of my -214, I expect no less than the
same claims of "it's a forgery" or other such silliness.


Of course you expect such criticism -- you have already rationalized
that as an excuse to -not- provide such information. But you are
ignoring the fact that I provided my DD-214 in high resolution just to
pre-empt such a claim. And because it was high resolution I didn't
scan the whole document -- it would have been a -huge- file.


Now THERE is an excuse!

Thirty years ago that WOULD have been a "-huge-" file to a TRS-80
that loaded data on music cassette tapes.

Besides,
the whole document isn't needed. Just the important parts, such as
what I included in mine. So what's your excuse -=NOW=-, Dudly?


There's no "excuse", Frankie...

References to publically available resources have been made. You
refuse to follow them up. Oh well.

And you accuse -ME- of making "trip ups"? You're a fraud, Dudly. Your
stories are a fraud, your USMC career is a fraud, your personality is
a fraud, and your life is a fraud.


Nope.


Well, that's proof for sure. I guess all the facts are moot and you
must be telling the truth about everything because you replied with a
definitive "Nope". Thanks for clarifying that for me, Dudly.


Unlike you and Lennie, I don't need to re-write "War and Peace" to
effective respond.

"Nope" was adequate.

But your stories about it are.


Feel free to prove me wrong.


Already done.

You're too much the coward to follow the trail yourself, Frankie.

Frank Gilliland is a liar.



More "truth-by-repitition". One would think by now that you could come
up with a more effective argument...... or maybe even some proof!


"repetition".

It's already been proven...In each and every line where you call
me a "fraud" or other such adjective over my USMC service.

Refrences to public records have been provided.

They prove that Frank Gilliland is a liar.

Now I'm going to give you a suggestion: Take a couple weeks off from
the newsgroups. Go camping, get some fresh air, a fresh perspective,
and get laid if you can. Then come back here, come clean about your
lies, and be yourself.


What lies?

The only one's being told here are by you and The Feeble Five
Bretheren.


Apparently you haven't been reading my posts..... oh, that's right,
your reading comprehension extends only so far as to absorb whatever
fits into your fantasy world.


Obvioulsy you've not been reading MINE, or you'd know whatever
fantasies I hold have nothing to do with you or the Feeble Five.

Well, that's your problem, Dudly.


Nope. It's yours.

Everyone else here can read them with an objective frame of mind. And
don't forget that your lies are now in the archives for however long
the archives exist. IOW, they might be read by your great-great-
grandkids (god forbid you should ever reproduce). I can only imagine
how disillusioned they will be to find out who and what you really
are.


Actually, Frank, it will be YOUR offspring who are disillusioned.

Disillusioned that grandpa got into a "fight" with a man he didn't
know over issues that were easily disporven in the public domain.

Silly Frankie...

Well, don't be discouraged because you probably won't have to
face them, even though they will be the victims of your public
dysfunction. Maybe even the subject of public ridicule. And all
because you get your kicks by impersonating someone you aren't.


And there we have it again...

Frank Gilliland making an untrue assertion in a public forum.

Even if you -are- who you claim, they sure as hell aren't going to be proud
of your behavior in this newsgroup over the past several years.

But that's not your problem.


And I seriously doubt it will be thiers...

You will catch some flack to be sure, but that
will eventually die down after a few months. Maybe you don't realize
this but people -will- respect you for who you are even if you haven't
accomplished much with your life -- heck, I should know!


People already respect me for who I am, what I have accomplished
in my life, even my REAL failures...Not the one's you've tried to
manufacture here.


Who?


Anyone who has had professional interaction with me. Physicians
and Nurses from California to Chattanooga...Marines that I served with.
People who's lives I touch each and every day I go to work.

But if you
keep up with this ridiculous facade then don't expect things to
improve because they won't. Of course if you really -like- all this
negative attention then..... well, just know that it's people like you
who keep state-funded mental health agencies in business.


And it's people like you that keep me from WANTING to discuss my
service in public.


Then don't discuss your service. Just prove that you served.


I already have.

For the
past couple weeks you have had the opportunity to make an absolute
fool out of me -- what's preventing you from doing so? I'll tell you:
because your claims are nothing but lies.


No...

Frank Gilliland has been making an absolute fool out of Frank
Gilliland...What more could I possibly do?

Frank has proven that he's a disgraced, court martialed (twice)
ex-Marine.

Now, just because he "says so", wants anyone/everyone to "trust"
him when "dissing" MY service...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah. Right.

You're a humiliation to yourself and the Marine Corps,
Gilliland...


...yawn.


And that is, no doubt, why you're an EX Marine.

You're that drunk at the end of the bar I was talking about.


Actually, I'm the bartender.


No wonder the drinks are watered down.

So what'll it be, Dudly?


I'll just keep making fun of your lying and deceit, Frankie.


Of course you will -- you can't face the reality of your mental
illness so you need someone else to blame (it's always someone else's
fault, isn't it, Dudly?).


Ah, yes!

Just like the REST of the Feeble Five...

Can't carry the day with assinine arguments that are easily
disproven with PUBLIC records, so start in on claims of "mental
illness"...

You've not "proved" a thing other than you are a disgraced
non-rate and a newsgroup scoufflaw.

A loser.


If you believe it, it must be true. Facts? FACTS? We don't need no
stinking FACTS!!! LOL!!!


There are TWO facts here...

I did Honorably serve in the United States Marine Corps and you're
still a loser.

To quote you...."yawn"...

Steve, K4YZ

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K4YZ wrote:
Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 30 Aug 2005 02:33:51 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Because they weren't appealed, or couldn't you figure that out by
yourself? You can appeal a summary court martial on an issue of law or
an issue of procedure, but not based on evidence that wasn't available
or not presented at the hearing. Hence, no appeal. 18 alleged years in
the USMC and you don't know squat about the UCMJ......


I know more than you think.


you'd have to know more than he think you do, or for that matter than I
think you do.

OTOH no one is likely to find out what you might know under all the
Bull**** you spew forth

I also know your convictions can still be appealed.

Guess you don't care enough to fix them...or you were trutly
guilty as charged and just don't want to get your nose rubbed in your
Silliness again...

And as far as "trip ups" are concerned, let's take a closer look at
your postings lately...... Since I started confronting your lies with
facts your entire personality has changed. You used to be relatively
calm and controlled, but now your posts are filled with nothing but
repititious 'Hermanesque' catch-phrases and buzzwords that only -you-
think are effective at bolstering your credibility.

My "credibility" doesn't hinge on one tour in the USMC that was
pock-marked with not one but two court martials.


No, it's dependent upon the ability to independently verify the claims
you have presented as facts; but alas, your claims CONTRADICT the
facts while mine don't. Ergo, -you- have no credibility and I -do-.


cut.

You're not. Nor is Lennie. And it shows. (And that's NOT a
"positive" thing...)


Where, in the charter, does it require that anyone who posts here be a
ham?


It doesn't. But your snide, "Cut their throats any way possible"
attitude shows...


that is you balliwick Stevie

You used to try
and exert control over your challengers by starting new threads with
almost every reply, yet for the past week you can't seem to break out
of -this- thread.

If you were paying attention, Frankie, the threads were in
response to MARKIE'S frequent changes.


So you have the mentality of a lemming -- as if -that's- a suprise....


As do you...Following your Feeble Five brothers without detour...


Brothers? really now you are charting new ground in your delusions

or is it just another Stevie lie
cut

You used to be the spelling cop, but now almost
every post by you has several spelling errors because of the frantic
rage that comes over you when replying to my posts.

No more than any other, Frankie.

Nice try.


Nice try yourself; just a couple weeks ago you prided yourself on your
ability to correct others on -their- spelling, putting yourself on an
intellectual pedestal above everyone else. But all of a sudden you
can't even find the spell-check button. Now you excuse yourself from
bad spelling by claiming that you are just as faulty as everyone else.
You fell off your pedestal, Dudly.


I never was on one, Frankie, and had never put myself over anyone.


big whooper


Had you been paying attention at some time in the past, you would
have known that.


I guess it is Stevie that hasn't been paying attention but that is
hardly news

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Most of what "goes on" in this forum HAS been going one for YEARS,
Frankie...The "last few days" is irrelevent in the over all scheme of
things.


hmm you have made major admissiions in the last week been caught lying
again yea very little in the scheme of things


Or maybe they just realize that you're the loser you've turned out
to be...


Well, if -they- realized that much, why haven't you? You could have
simply put me in your killfile and be done with me, just like you
could have done with Len and others. Nope, you need to keep tabs on me
and others so as to make sure that you can counter any bit of proof
that exposes you as a liar. Your "friends" have abandoned you because
they have no interest in defending your lies.


What lies?


one the lie that you were going to killfile some of us

Neither you nor any of the other Feeble Five have proven a single
one, Frankie.


of course we have

No, I am not predisposed to copying and posting my military
records, but I HAVE provided more than a few PUBLIC reference to
records that verify my having served.


more stevie lies

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That's all it says, huh? An 8-1/2" x 11" sheet of paper that has only
one word printed on it: "HONORABLE". No qualifiers that would indicate
to whom or what the word is referring, who printed it, who authorized
it, or even why it exists? Whatever you say, Dudly.


Nice try again, Frankie.

You're getting lame.


you have already admitted to being disabled and then denied it was
pyscial so course it is mental as you are showing right now


cut

That you put your failed USMC service up front is nothing to be
proud of other than to admit to yourself that you did indeed fail to do
what you promised you'd do.


Failed?

Gee I would say being court marialed would make someone better suited
to comment on such, Not that I would value such experence to go through
it for nothing


I was never a "poster" Marine, nor was I guest of honor at any of
the presentations at 8th and I, but I DID manage to serve without a
single black mark in my SRB.


yea you were somekind kiss ass of course
cut


Actually, Frank, it will be YOUR offspring who are disillusioned.


you do think a lot of yourself and of this medium
cut

Then don't discuss your service. Just prove that you served.


I already have.


proven nothing Stevie
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You're a humiliation to yourself and the Marine Corps,
Gilliland...


...yawn.


And that is, no doubt, why you're an EX Marine.


indeed shows he grew up and moved on
cut
Can't carry the day with assinine arguments that are easily
disproven with PUBLIC records, so start in on claims of "mental
illness"...


you are the one going about mental illness threats to call folks

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K4YZ wrote:
Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 29 Aug 2005 08:01:26 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in


Gotta hurt, though...I am sure that, for a couple of days, it felt
"good" taking some swipes at someone who managed to accomplish
something you DIDN'T in the Marines...make it to a Staff NCO rank.


Two promotions in 15 years as a staff NCO, selected by cutting scores
that were never used, and granted with promotion certificates you
can't read. Yeah, you sure made your case, Dudly.


Hey screwball...


Huh??? Is RE-4YZ calling someone else a nut? Hi!

WHERE did I say SNCO ranks were selected by cutting
scores...?!?!

SNCO's never were...


Then you should have corrected it the first time Frank called you on
it. Instead you go through this, "no they weren't, yes they were, no
they weren't,..." nonsense that you're so famous for. You're just not
believable.

But LPCL through Sergeant were! PFC was almost automatic unless
you picked your nose in morning formation.


"no they weren't, yes they were, no they weren't,..."

You're such an idiot.

Steve, K4YZ


Hi!

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On 31 Aug 2005 15:16:45 -0700, wrote in
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K4YZ wrote:
Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 29 Aug 2005 08:01:26 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in


Gotta hurt, though...I am sure that, for a couple of days, it felt
"good" taking some swipes at someone who managed to accomplish
something you DIDN'T in the Marines...make it to a Staff NCO rank.

Two promotions in 15 years as a staff NCO, selected by cutting scores
that were never used, and granted with promotion certificates you
can't read. Yeah, you sure made your case, Dudly.


Hey screwball...


Huh??? Is RE-4YZ calling someone else a nut? Hi!

WHERE did I say SNCO ranks were selected by cutting
scores...?!?!

SNCO's never were...


Then you should have corrected it the first time Frank called you on
it. Instead you go through this, "no they weren't, yes they were, no
they weren't,..." nonsense that you're so famous for. You're just not
believable.

But LPCL through Sergeant were! PFC was almost automatic unless
you picked your nose in morning formation.


"no they weren't, yes they were, no they weren't,..."

You're such an idiot.

Steve, K4YZ


Hi!



One of the distinctions of the USMC, and something they pride
themselves on, is that they don't use the same type of promotion
system as the other services. No tests, no "cutting scores", etc.
Promotions are -earned-, not handed out like pay raises. If you do
above-average work and you get promoted more quickly than the average.
Perform poorly and you don't get promoted at all. That's the way it is
and that's the way it's always been.

Oh yeah, and Marines always refer to their rank, not their pay-grade.
If you hear a "Marine" say he was an E-7 then he wasn't a Marine.







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