From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:
From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen.

Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE.
Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area."

If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such
as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant
NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role
if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense
Communications System]

Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio
by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any
common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable
for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio
communications of any kind. Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed.

Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He
has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned
from publications or entertainment shows. Anyone truly proud to
have served will have some sort of documentation which can be
scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned. Dudly
has offered NONE. Not even personal snapshots.

Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call
the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details
to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is
legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that
is almost three decades old. The same is true for NARA, the
National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large
records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which
contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form
can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail
for full disclosure.

The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military
service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear
area" is what he has been giving us.

From: Dave Heil on Fri 26 Aug 2005 05:52

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:


Every time I see such nonsense, it seems to be from a guy who served in
the rear someplace.

Tsk. Whose rear have you served lately?

Not yours.

If you wish to discuss anal sex, find ANOTHER newsgroup for that.

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Fri 26 Aug 2005 05:52


wrote:

From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm

wrote:



Every time I see such nonsense, it seems to be from a guy who served in
the rear someplace.

Tsk. Whose rear have you served lately?

Not yours.


If you wish to discuss anal sex, find ANOTHER newsgroup for that.

You took my comment and turned it around. Then, when I respond to your
silly question, you think I'm discussing anal sex? What in the world is
the matter with you?

Dave K8MN

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Obviously not.

He didn't get any of it right.

And his "agenda" was laid bare in the process.

Grand claims you make. Got any proof?

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

wrote:

From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm

wrote:

From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm

K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.


The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

...or so he claims.

Dave K8MN

Steve got real quiet. It were almost as if someone, somewhere were
"dialing..."

From: Dave Heil on Aug 26, 12:09 pm

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Fri 26 Aug 2005 05:52
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:


Every time I see such nonsense, it seems to be from a guy who served in
the rear someplace.

Tsk. Whose rear have you served lately?

Not yours.

If you wish to discuss anal sex, find ANOTHER newsgroup for that.

You took my comment and turned it around.

NOTHING was "turned around." The quotes are exact, in a linear form
from your posting.

Then, when I respond to your
silly question, you think I'm discussing anal sex?

Since you are anal-retentive on "rear area" issues, what I wrote
is the most plausible explanation for your non-turned-around
statement.

What in the world is the matter with you?

Nothing. I'm trying to (vainly it seems) to return to amateur
radio policy issues.

Up before the FCC at this very moment is 05-143, an NPRM on the
government's proposal to remove test element 1 from the license
examination requirements. Comments continue to come in on that
via Docket WT 05=235. The results of that and whether or not a
Report and Order will be issued removing the code test will most
definitely affect United States amateur radio in the near future.

You do not choose to discuss CURRENT amateur radio policy issues
but rather dwell on old, old arguments in here and are now anal-
retentive on "rear area" statements.

What is the matter with YOU?

wrote:
From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen.

Adding to the basis of "th[i]er" double-standard.

Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE.
Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area."

Actually, it just might be possible. I know of some rear area
personnel who were permitted to go on helo excursions so that they
would qualify for hazardous duty pay. Yet the douche bags had no
weapon, no TA50, and no sense. It was just a scam, and they should
have been reprimanded.

I beleive that Steve is up to such stunts.

If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such
as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant
NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role
if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense
Communications System]

How could it have been??? "MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio
by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any
common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable
for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio
communications of any kind. Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed.

Ergo, Dud UXO lied.

Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He
has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned
from publications or entertainment shows.

Such as a 1950's issue of "This is the Air Force?"

Anyone truly proud to
have served will have some sort of documentation which can be
scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned. Dudly
has offered NONE. Not even personal snapshots.

He got sand in his eye.

Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call
the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details
to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is
legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that
is almost three decades old. The same is true for NARA, the
National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large
records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which
contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form
can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail
for full disclosure.

He hides behind his "Ask the VA" claims. Wonder where he hid during
the "seven hostile actions?"

The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military
service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear
area" is what he has been giving us.

He fully understands that disclosure of his military records will
expose him as the fraud that he is. So he hides behind his claims that
the "VA" will somehow release his data, knowing full well that they
won't.

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm

K4YZ wrote:


Didya catch the part where he says he was ONLY a "####bird
PFC"...?!??!

Sheesh...even Lennie made E5...

Did you catch the part where Jim didn't serve?

Jimmie Miccolis never served.
Mikey Coslo never served.
Dee Flint never served.
Brain Kellie WAS served (by "drudges") at the captain's table!

You act as if status as a veteran is something which gives you
entitlement to be condescending to those who were never in the military.
Every time I see such nonsense, it seems to be from a guy who served in
the rear someplace.

Dave K8MN


Steve acts as if status as a lower-ranking Marine is something to be
denigrated.

Do you think being repeatedly busted to a lower rank is something to be
proud of?

Like Billy Mitchell?

Jim acts as if status as a "amateur" is something which gives him
entitlement to be condescending to those radio professionals who were
never amateurs.

Does he? I've seen no evidence of it. The only radio professional
here, who isn't a radio amateur, is Len Anderson. Len is an insulting
churl.

Jim is a thin-skinned Evangelical CWer.

Dave acts as if status as a DXer is something which gives him
entitlement to be condescending to those who enjoyed DX while not
holding the highest class of amateur licesne.

To those? Well, there's you and you don't seem to know very much about
DXing. You seem to equate it with ragchewing across continents.

Hmmmm? I know not to work French hams out of band on 6 meters.

Hmmmm? I know where to get permission to operate from a piece of real
estate that has no government.

It took a guy who you claim "doesn't seem to know very much about
DXing" to point that info out to you. But you just can't accept it,
coming from a younger, brighter, better looking, and lower ranking
amateur. Too bad for you.

Every time I see such nonsense, it seems to be from a guy who is
insecure about his own accomplishments.

Then again, you've been wearing a chip on your shoulders for years.

Dave K8MN

No chip. No dip. No parrot.

I've got the facts; you make smug remarks.

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Sometimes these armchair types only have their double standard to fall
back on.

You'd know best, Your Couch Potatoness.

Steve, K4YZ

You hide behind the Privacy Act. Spare us any more nonsense about your
claims of seven hostile actions. Never happened.

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm


K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:

Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my
Blue Nose card.

What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him?

The same kind of guy that I try to avoid being...the loud mouth at
the end of the bar telling everyone how he stormed the beaches...Laguna
Beach...Redondo Beach...Panama Beach...

You don't mind one bit bing the RRAP loudmouth. Always waving your
arms and claiming, "Liar, Liar Pants on Fiar!"

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Dudly kept talking about his "seven hostile actions"
and implying he was in the thick of them.

I've never bragged about being IN any hostile actions. If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned. Nonetheless, I got to work real HF radio communications
for three years in a 24/7 radio station...even living IN a two
square mile antenna field for a while. [many more antennas
there than overweight "scampering" Davie can possibly put up]

Just as they have not permitted you to comment about "amateur" radio
because you hold no license, NoServers may not comment about the
military.

Hold on, Sparky. Len has commented here at great length and on many,
many occasions.

And what has Jim's response been to Len's comments?