Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

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Dave Heil wrote:


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That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

Do you?

Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one?


I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities.

That is admirable.


And if I
were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.

It is your right to do so. You may research the band allocations for
each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or
respond to them. It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts
your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation. You should also
bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate,
mandates that you do so. You are responsible for making sure that your
own signal is where it is supposed to be. If any station I've ever
worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to
show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact
frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz).

Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database,
to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he
or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license.

Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my
station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in
any other country.


indeed you spend a page avoiding the issue

still avoid the issue I see

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Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:

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Dave Heil wrote:

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Your example is one of how you couldn't cut it as a real man.

What do you know of real men, Roger/not Roger?


I know you aren't one of them.

You know? How would you know? You're just some guy hiding behind
anonymous remailers.


which mean what? that he knows nothing?

You know, I hadn't thought of that. I meant that the Roger Wiseman who
is behind these anonymous remailer posts is a non-entity in my life. He
has seen my precisely once in his life. But now that you've mentioned
it, he really is the kind of guy who knows little of anything. Use
Google and look under Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ and KC8JBO.

One I don't take your orders

Two Noone knows nothing, even you must know something god help Ican't
say what it might be, but I am certain you know something


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You can't use your own name lest you have
the police on your doorstep again. You have to be very, very careful.


Really? Doubtful, since they haven't been on my doorstep.

Sure they have, a number of times, and you've been invited to see them
as well.


You know this How?

I learned of it during several visits to Glen Dale, WV Polic Chief
Norman Stenger. Glen Dale Police Officers are quite familiar with Mr.
Wiseman. They had dealings with him before my visits.

still don't see any proof you know this alleged fact


And since when does
the police deny freedom of speech?

Since when *do* the police, not *does* the police. Your freedom of
speech stops where my rights begin.


gee you are very concerned about YOUR rights but support the abuse of
other poeple rights

You know not of what you speak.

I certainly do know of what I speak


yep I am beigin to wonder if you are not a cut out for Stevie

A cut out for him? Can you explain the concept?

you should know the term "cut out" if you don't then you are likely
lying about having a career any where the Govt.


No wonder you
were relegated to doing errand type tasks for the "State Department."

I've never filled a job position which entailed "errand type tasks".


Oh, so you couldn't even make the errand boy grade?

Why don't you make it your life's work to try to find out?


why should anyone?

Precisely.

indeed you were an errand boy so what

such an ego you have

It has nothing to do with my ego.

Big whooper

gee looking more like Stevie

Steve and I look nothing alike.

you 2 are very much alike in manner in the way you look online even
the way you don't bother with the uses of lang


You monitor local FM repeaters


Good amateur practice says you should monitor before doing anything else. You'd
think an world class DXer who talks to out of banders like you would know that.

You know nothing of my activies on 6m from overseas. By the way, it is
"a world class DXer", not "an world class DXer". Makes little
difference, I've never claimed to be either.


If he and the rest of US know nothing then I guess all of your posts
about them must have been lies

You just jumped to a false conclusion. Folks here know only because
I've seen fit to tell them. The only folks who know for sure are those
who worked me on 6m....and me.

Not at all just one you don't like

and with You I doubt even the other hams kew what they were dealing
with (or realy cared either)


aroogance now the speeling looks a lot like stevie
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YOu can tell by the aroogance and speeling, can you? C'mon. You had help.

I can tell no need for hel with you and stevie

Hmm is Dave realy Stevie. It could be, but not likely Sadly Stevie's
abusive self centered is all too comon

You're still a twit, Mark.

In your view sure I am

but Id rather be atwit than someone who promotes, aids criminals,
abusives the conistitution of the Us and the rest of th stuf you and
Stevie do

Dave K8MN

an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

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Fantastic! An endorsement from the World's Greatest DXer. I'll
request that it be known as the "Heil Award," in your honor.

I've seen nothing to indicate an endorsement from the World's Greatest
DXer. Perhaps you received an e-mail from him. While I haven't
endorsed the idea, I have encouraged you to pursue it.


indeed you do always encourage people to feed your ego

You keep showing us that you can't comprehend the written word. I asked
for no credit. The idea is Brian Burke's. I've never claimed to be the
World's Greatest DXer. You've come up with nothing once again, frantic
fabricator.


I understand it fine never said you asked for credit never commented on
your claim

Then what's with your little "indeed you do always encourage people to
feed your ego" comment. My statement had nothing to do my ego or with
any self-aggrandizement. It was, in fact, just the opposite.

you just don't understand the written word, esp if it says anything you
don't wnat to read

Wnat?

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As to learning "ANY diplomacy",



there is never an instance where an ambassador calls a communications
type and says, "We've just received news from Washington. I want you to
go to the Foreign Ministry and make a demarche".


And there you have it.

Yes, there you have it. Ambassadors, Deputy Chiefs of Mission,
Political and Economics Officers make demarches, telephone and write to
foreign ministers, presidents, prime ministers and the like.
Information Management personnel have quite different job requirements.


indeed We may all the god for that...

We may all the god? Just how do we accomplish that?


not my problem


...the fact you were a file clerk was
obviously much better for the nation and the world than puting you in
real diplomatic work

Ah, ah, ah, manic manufacturer of fables! I was never a file clerk.
There are people who file things in embassies. They used to be called
"secretaries" but they're now called "Office Management Specialists".
Then again, those of us who were "Information Management Specialists" as
a broad subgroup, used to be "Support Communications Officers". I liked
the old term. The generic term "Communicators" is used on a daily basis.


and Torturers are called "Pain Technicians" spin it all you like clerk,
but you are convincing no one, not already tkaen in by your bull****

I'll state it for you again, feeble one. I never worked in the position
of file clerk. You've lied so much and so often that you're assuming
that everyone does.


He was merely their messenger.

Perhaps it soothes you to cling to that belief.


In addition to sending messages, what else did you do?

I'm certain that I've outlined it before. In addition to sending
messages, I received messages. :-)


My My such ornerous duties

Only a twit would cut an entire paragraph and then write "My My such
ornerous duties (sic)".


you keep geting it wrong I hadn't cut the paragraph yet

Why, certainly you did, feeble fabricator. Here it is:

"There's much more though. I operated and maintained the equipment
which took care of all of that sending and receiving. I was responsible
for the HF and VHF E&E nets and equipment. I was in charge of the
embassy telephone system and supervised the receptionists. I was
responsible for classified pouch despatch and receipt. I served as
system administrator for classified and unclassifed LAN's and was
responsible for stand alone PC's. I supervised the embassy mailroom
staff. I ran frequency clearances for VIP visits, obtained VHF
frequency permits for embassy repeater and simplex channels through the
host country PTT. There were other duties, but I'm sure you get the idea."


Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...

He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW?

He surely did, but not on the same frequency as the RTTY circuit.


What frequency?

A different one!


i see more non answer answerer

An answer was provided. You didn't like it. You have no clearance and
no need to know.


more tom cruise

Tom Cruise worked for the Department of State as a communicator? Get
outta here!

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None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one
counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur"
effort of foreign policy.

Do you think has an anti-U.S. Foreign Policy bias, Brian?


I -could- pretend to not understand your question, but that would be
too heilish.

I think that Len has an anti-Heil bias.

That has been obvious, but I asked about a U.S. Foreign Policy bias. He
has frequently taken pot shots at the U.S. Department of State and U.S.
Foreign Policy.


Indeed and you flame Len for this american tradition of questioning the
action of the natiion, you flame him for prefroming the DUTY of an
amercian citizen

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With that degree, you'd likely be able to figure that Bissau and
Freetown are across the continent from Asmara. When my old colleagues
speak of the "West African Echo" they don't include East Africa. Go
figure. I didn't work into nor did I work through Asmara. The missing
piece of the puzzle for both of you is the location of the station I
worked into. Good luck.


Ascension.

I only wish I was at liberty to tell you.


rich the I could tell you bit have to kill routine. Tom cruise does it
better dave
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I was doing it before Tom Cruise was old enough to work. The fact is,
there are things which I know that I simply can't share with you. If it
bothers you, I don't care.


Doesn't bother me just disgusts me your efforts to make yourself look
important

Funny that my informing you that I can't tell you something would
disgust you more than some of your own practices.


I agree. Has Len been insulted? denigrated? belittled?

If there's a God in Heaven, he has.


mighty generous

I'm a mighty generous guy.


As to the FCC staffer schpiel, it has been previously addressed a number
of times. Len isn't an FCC staffer, nor is he a radio amateur.


Nor are most FCC staffers, even the ones dealing directly with amateur
radio.

That's right. They're paid to do a job, whether they participate in
some radio service or not. Len isn't a participant and he isn't a
regulator.


so what?

Check Google. I don't have time to explain it for those who can't keep up.


no need to check google to know that you just can't stand anyone that
doesn't kowtow to you, everyong remotely honest on her knows that

Her? Her who?

I was just trying to fair nd give a chance t make your point if your
had one

I appreciate that you were just trying to fair, as you understand the term.

so it was just another gratouitous attack boring


why do you seem to deny the rights of american citizen in amercia?

Len has no right for his views to be accepted. His views carry no more
weight than my own. The terms "America" and "American" are capitalized.
There is no "Amercia".


never len did, but he does have the right to express his opinion a
right you seek to deny him and me for that matter

Never len did? Did what? Len has repeatedly expressed his opinion.
You have, on very many occasions, expressed your opinions and even a
number of outright lies. You can't point to an occasion when I have
sought to deny your rights.


Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios.

Now *that* would be weird. My hamshack consists of two, adjacent second
floor rooms.


You told us you lived in a tarpaper shack.

There's tarpaper under there somewhere.


ah yess another lie

Let me see if I understand you. You wan't to promote a quarrel over
whether there is tarpaper on my house? Do I have it correct?


no you don't

Well? Enlighten me. Tell me exactly what you mean. Tell me why you
believe I'm lying about tarpaper.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

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Fantastic! An endorsement from the World's Greatest DXer. I'll
request that it be known as the "Heil Award," in your honor.

I've seen nothing to indicate an endorsement from the World's Greatest
DXer. Perhaps you received an e-mail from him. While I haven't
endorsed the idea, I have encouraged you to pursue it.


indeed you do always encourage people to feed your ego

You keep showing us that you can't comprehend the written word. I asked
for no credit. The idea is Brian Burke's. I've never claimed to be the
World's Greatest DXer. You've come up with nothing once again, frantic
fabricator.


I understand it fine never said you asked for credit never commented on
your claim

Then what's with your little "indeed you do always encourage people to
feed your ego" comment. My statement had nothing to do my ego or with
any self-aggrandizement. It was, in fact, just the opposite.

learn english

your statement was nothing but ego and selfaggrandizement. you have
little but your puff and stract and bluster


you just don't understand the written word, esp if it says anything you
don't wnat to read

Wnat?

indeed my point exactly

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As to learning "ANY diplomacy",



there is never an instance where an ambassador calls a communications
type and says, "We've just received news from Washington. I want you to
go to the Foreign Ministry and make a demarche".


And there you have it.

Yes, there you have it. Ambassadors, Deputy Chiefs of Mission,
Political and Economics Officers make demarches, telephone and write to
foreign ministers, presidents, prime ministers and the like.
Information Management personnel have quite different job requirements.


indeed We may all the god for that...

We may all the god? Just how do we accomplish that?


not my problem


...the fact you were a file clerk was
obviously much better for the nation and the world than puting you in
real diplomatic work

Ah, ah, ah, manic manufacturer of fables! I was never a file clerk.
There are people who file things in embassies. They used to be called
"secretaries" but they're now called "Office Management Specialists".
Then again, those of us who were "Information Management Specialists" as
a broad subgroup, used to be "Support Communications Officers". I liked
the old term. The generic term "Communicators" is used on a daily basis.


and Torturers are called "Pain Technicians" spin it all you like clerk,
but you are convincing no one, not already tkaen in by your bull****

I'll state it for you again, feeble one. I never worked in the position
of file clerk. You've lied so much and so often that you're assuming
that everyone does.

you still understand

I Know you lie, indeed I know Bill Sohl lies (I am sure he answers
"fine" to the question how are you) everyone does lie.

You lie here with almost every post you make, and in many case I
honestly think you don't know it

You were a peon, a clerk, a nobody in the dept, you puuf yourself up
with a title but I don't care


He was merely their messenger.

Perhaps it soothes you to cling to that belief.


In addition to sending messages, what else did you do?

I'm certain that I've outlined it before. In addition to sending
messages, I received messages. :-)


My My such ornerous duties

Only a twit would cut an entire paragraph and then write "My My such
ornerous duties (sic)".


you keep geting it wrong I hadn't cut the paragraph yet

Why, certainly you did, feeble fabricator. Here it is:

nope I wrote those words, "My My such ornerous duties" and then moved
down to that para and decided to cut it

another Dave Hiel lie

"There's much more though. I operated and maintained the equipment
which took care of all of that sending and receiving. I was responsible
for the HF and VHF E&E nets and equipment. I was in charge of the
embassy telephone system and supervised the receptionists. I was
responsible for classified pouch despatch and receipt. I served as
system administrator for classified and unclassifed LAN's and was
responsible for stand alone PC's. I supervised the embassy mailroom
staff. I ran frequency clearances for VIP visits, obtained VHF
frequency permits for embassy repeater and simplex channels through the
host country PTT. There were other duties, but I'm sure you get the idea."


Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...

He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW?

He surely did, but not on the same frequency as the RTTY circuit.


What frequency?

A different one!


i see more non answer answerer

An answer was provided. You didn't like it. You have no clearance and
no need to know.


more tom cruise

Tom Cruise worked for the Department of State as a communicator? Get
outta here!

never said that another Dave Fabrication

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None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one
counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur"
effort of foreign policy.

Do you think has an anti-U.S. Foreign Policy bias, Brian?


I -could- pretend to not understand your question, but that would be
too heilish.

I think that Len has an anti-Heil bias.

That has been obvious, but I asked about a U.S. Foreign Policy bias. He
has frequently taken pot shots at the U.S. Department of State and U.S.
Foreign Policy.


Indeed and you flame Len for this american tradition of questioning the
action of the natiion, you flame him for prefroming the DUTY of an
amercian citizen

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With that degree, you'd likely be able to figure that Bissau and
Freetown are across the continent from Asmara. When my old colleagues
speak of the "West African Echo" they don't include East Africa. Go
figure. I didn't work into nor did I work through Asmara. The missing
piece of the puzzle for both of you is the location of the station I
worked into. Good luck.


Ascension.

I only wish I was at liberty to tell you.


rich the I could tell you bit have to kill routine. Tom cruise does it
better dave
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I was doing it before Tom Cruise was old enough to work. The fact is,
there are things which I know that I simply can't share with you. If it
bothers you, I don't care.


Doesn't bother me just disgusts me your efforts to make yourself look
important

Funny that my informing you that I can't tell you something would
disgust you more than some of your own practices.

auf anglish bitte


I agree. Has Len been insulted? denigrated? belittled?

If there's a God in Heaven, he has.


mighty generous

I'm a mighty generous guy.


As to the FCC staffer schpiel, it has been previously addressed a number
of times. Len isn't an FCC staffer, nor is he a radio amateur.


Nor are most FCC staffers, even the ones dealing directly with amateur
radio.

That's right. They're paid to do a job, whether they participate in
some radio service or not. Len isn't a participant and he isn't a
regulator.


so what?

Check Google. I don't have time to explain it for those who can't keep up.


no need to check google to know that you just can't stand anyone that
doesn't kowtow to you, everyong remotely honest on her knows that

Her? Her who?

I was just trying to fair nd give a chance t make your point if your
had one

I appreciate that you were just trying to fair, as you understand the term.

so it was just another gratouitous attack boring


why do you seem to deny the rights of american citizen in amercia?

Len has no right for his views to be accepted. His views carry no more
weight than my own. The terms "America" and "American" are capitalized.
There is no "Amercia".


never len did, but he does have the right to express his opinion a
right you seek to deny him and me for that matter

Never len did? Did what? Len has repeatedly expressed his opinion.
You have, on very many occasions, expressed your opinions and even a
number of outright lies. You can't point to an occasion when I have
sought to deny your rights.

yes I can you try to deny my right to even exist


Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios.

Now *that* would be weird. My hamshack consists of two, adjacent second
floor rooms.


You told us you lived in a tarpaper shack.

There's tarpaper under there somewhere.


ah yess another lie

Let me see if I understand you. You wan't to promote a quarrel over
whether there is tarpaper on my house? Do I have it correct?


no you don't

Well? Enlighten me. Tell me exactly what you mean. Tell me why you
believe I'm lying about tarpaper.

Dave K8MN

You told us you lived in a tarpaper shack.


There's tarpaper under there somewhere.


ah yess another lie


Let me see if I understand you. You wan't to promote a quarrel over
whether there is tarpaper on my house? Do I have it correct?


no you don't



Well? Enlighten me. Tell me exactly what you mean. Tell me why you
believe I'm lying about tarpaper.

you lied in calling something a Tarpaper shack, plain and simple

Dave

an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:


In article t
Dave Heil wrote:

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Your example is one of how you couldn't cut it as a real man.

What do you know of real men, Roger/not Roger?


I know you aren't one of them.

You know? How would you know? You're just some guy hiding behind
anonymous remailers.


which mean what? that he knows nothing?

You know, I hadn't thought of that. I meant that the Roger Wiseman who
is behind these anonymous remailer posts is a non-entity in my life. He
has seen my precisely once in his life. But now that you've mentioned
it, he really is the kind of guy who knows little of anything. Use
Google and look under Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ and KC8JBO.


One I don't take your orders

You don't? Did you think I gave you an order a short time ago when you
provided Google links here, which you erroneously claimed were my flirts
in a personals newsgroup with a bisexual, married stripper?

Two Noone knows nothing, even you must know something god help Ican't
say what it might be, but I am certain you know something

Who's noone?

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You can't use your own name lest you have
the police on your doorstep again. You have to be very, very careful.


Really? Doubtful, since they haven't been on my doorstep.

Sure they have, a number of times, and you've been invited to see them
as well.


You know this How?

I learned of it during several visits to Glen Dale, WV Polic Chief
Norman Stenger. Glen Dale Police Officers are quite familiar with Mr.
Wiseman. They had dealings with him before my visits.


still don't see any proof you know this alleged fact

If it worries you, call 'em and ask: (304) 845-5511 gets you the city
building.

And since when does
the police deny freedom of speech?

Since when *do* the police, not *does* the police. Your freedom of
speech stops where my rights begin.


gee you are very concerned about YOUR rights but support the abuse of
other poeple rights

You know not of what you speak.


I certainly do know of what I speak

Your saying so does not make your statement true. You may think it, but
you are not correct.

yep I am beigin to wonder if you are not a cut out for Stevie

A cut out for him? Can you explain the concept?


you should know the term "cut out" if you don't then you are likely
lying about having a career any where the Govt.

Sorry. Does it have something to do with exhaust systems?

No wonder you
were relegated to doing errand type tasks for the "State Department."

I've never filled a job position which entailed "errand type tasks".


Oh, so you couldn't even make the errand boy grade?

Why don't you make it your life's work to try to find out?


why should anyone?

Precisely.


indeed you were an errand boy so what

Ahhhh, you're just practicing your lying again.

such an ego you have

It has nothing to do with my ego.


Big whooper

I saw a big Whooper the other day along Fish Creek. It was standing on
one leg.

gee looking more like Stevie

Steve and I look nothing alike.


you 2 are very much alike in manner in the way you look online even
the way you don't bother with the uses of lang

We don't bother with the uses of lang?

You monitor local FM repeaters


Good amateur practice says you should monitor before doing anything else. You'd
think an world class DXer who talks to out of banders like you would know that.

You know nothing of my activies on 6m from overseas. By the way, it is
"a world class DXer", not "an world class DXer". Makes little
difference, I've never claimed to be either.


If he and the rest of US know nothing then I guess all of your posts
about them must have been lies

You just jumped to a false conclusion. Folks here know only because
I've seen fit to tell them. The only folks who know for sure are those
who worked me on 6m....and me.


Not at all just one you don't like

What?

and with You I doubt even the other hams kew what they were dealing
with (or realy cared either)

We must be on another topic with which you have no familiarity. If I
was the only 6m op from a rare African DX spot and the band opened, the
ops on the other end of a QSO knew who and what they were dealing with
and they cared very much.

aroogance now the speeling looks a lot like stevie
cut

YOu can tell by the aroogance and speeling, can you? C'mon. You had help.


I can tell no need for hel with you and stevie

I can see that. You are in a hel of your own making.

Hmm is Dave realy Stevie. It could be, but not likely Sadly Stevie's
abusive self centered is all too comon

You're still a twit, Mark.


In your view sure I am

Bank on it.

but Id rather be atwit than someone who promotes, aids criminals,
abusives the conistitution of the Us and the rest of th stuf you and
Stevie do

I think I would be too, Mark. Luckily for me, I'm not a twit, nor am I
any of the other things you've described in your own *special* style.


Dave K8MN

an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an old friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:

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Fantastic! An endorsement from the World's Greatest DXer. I'll
request that it be known as the "Heil Award," in your honor.

I've seen nothing to indicate an endorsement from the World's Greatest
DXer. Perhaps you received an e-mail from him. While I haven't
endorsed the idea, I have encouraged you to pursue it.


indeed you do always encourage people to feed your ego

You keep showing us that you can't comprehend the written word. I asked
for no credit. The idea is Brian Burke's. I've never claimed to be the
World's Greatest DXer. You've come up with nothing once again, frantic
fabricator.


I understand it fine never said you asked for credit never commented on
your claim

Then what's with your little "indeed you do always encourage people to
feed your ego" comment. My statement had nothing to do my ego or with
any self-aggrandizement. It was, in fact, just the opposite.


learn english

your statement was nothing but ego and selfaggrandizement. you have
little but your puff and stract and bluster

You're out of your ever-livin', medicated mind.

you just don't understand the written word, esp if it says anything you
don't wnat to read

Wnat?


indeed my point exactly

Wnat? was your point? Unbelievable.


...the fact you were a file clerk was
obviously much better for the nation and the world than puting you in
real diplomatic work

Ah, ah, ah, manic manufacturer of fables! I was never a file clerk.
There are people who file things in embassies. They used to be called
"secretaries" but they're now called "Office Management Specialists".
Then again, those of us who were "Information Management Specialists" as
a broad subgroup, used to be "Support Communications Officers". I liked
the old term. The generic term "Communicators" is used on a daily basis.


and Torturers are called "Pain Technicians" spin it all you like clerk,
but you are convincing no one, not already tkaen in by your bull****

I'll state it for you again, feeble one. I never worked in the position
of file clerk. You've lied so much and so often that you're assuming
that everyone does.


you still understand

Yes, I understand. You've attempted to create the false impression that
my job was something entirely different than it was.

I Know you lie, indeed I know Bill Sohl lies (I am sure he answers
"fine" to the question how are you) everyone does lie.

You're starting to come off as pretty delusional, Mark.

You lie here with almost every post you make, and in many case I
honestly think you don't know it

Sure, sure, Mark. Everybody lies with every breath they breathe out and
they're all talking about you too.

You were a peon, a clerk, a nobody in the dept, you puuf yourself up
with a title but I don't care

I haven't provided you with any titles, just a job description. The
guys who worked for me carried the "Support Communications Officer" or
"Information Management Specialist" titles. I was, with the exception
of my first tour, the "Communications Programs Officer" or "Information
Programs Officer". There were times that I was provided a diplomatic
title as well, "Administative Attache'". You say you don't care, but
your words indicate that it matters to you.

He was merely their messenger.

Perhaps it soothes you to cling to that belief.


In addition to sending messages, what else did you do?

I'm certain that I've outlined it before. In addition to sending
messages, I received messages. :-)


My My such ornerous duties

Only a twit would cut an entire paragraph and then write "My My such
ornerous duties (sic)".


you keep geting it wrong I hadn't cut the paragraph yet

Why, certainly you did, feeble fabricator. Here it is:


nope I wrote those words, "My My such ornerous duties" and then moved
down to that para and decided to cut it

another Dave Hiel lie

Ahhh, so the order in which you did the two things makes a big
difference in your mind. I was going to write that you're a twit and a
liar, but I'll make it liar and twit.

"There's much more though. I operated and maintained the equipment
which took care of all of that sending and receiving. I was responsible
for the HF and VHF E&E nets and equipment. I was in charge of the
embassy telephone system and supervised the receptionists. I was
responsible for classified pouch despatch and receipt. I served as
system administrator for classified and unclassifed LAN's and was
responsible for stand alone PC's. I supervised the embassy mailroom
staff. I ran frequency clearances for VIP visits, obtained VHF
frequency permits for embassy repeater and simplex channels through the
host country PTT. There were other duties, but I'm sure you get the idea."


Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...

He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW?

He surely did, but not on the same frequency as the RTTY circuit.


What frequency?

A different one!


i see more non answer answerer

An answer was provided. You didn't like it. You have no clearance and
no need to know.


more tom cruise

Tom Cruise worked for the Department of State as a communicator? Get
outta here!


never said that another Dave Fabrication

I asked a question. I didn't make a statement. You used the words
"more Tom Cruise". Maybe you meant that you'd *like* some more Tom
Cruise. Was there any Tom Cruise movie where he said anything about
someone not having a security clearanc or a need to know something?

Doesn't bother me just disgusts me your efforts to make yourself look
important

Funny that my informing you that I can't tell you something would
disgust you more than some of your own practices.


auf anglish bitte

It was in English, Mark. Hire a translator to put it into whatever it
is that you speak.


why do you seem to deny the rights of american citizen in amercia?

Len has no right for his views to be accepted. His views carry no more
weight than my own. The terms "America" and "American" are capitalized.
There is no "Amercia".


never len did, but he does have the right to express his opinion a
right you seek to deny him and me for that matter

Never len did? Did what? Len has repeatedly expressed his opinion.
You have, on very many occasions, expressed your opinions and even a
number of outright lies. You can't point to an occasion when I have
sought to deny your rights.


yes I can you try to deny my right to even exist

I asked you to point to an occasion. You did not do so. I have never
attempted to deny your right to exist. I don't spend a lot of time even
thinking about your existence.

Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios.

Now *that* would be weird. My hamshack consists of two, adjacent second
floor rooms.


You told us you lived in a tarpaper shack.

There's tarpaper under there somewhere.


ah yess another lie

Let me see if I understand you. You wan't to promote a quarrel over
whether there is tarpaper on my house? Do I have it correct?


no you don't

Well? Enlighten me. Tell me exactly what you mean. Tell me why you
believe I'm lying about tarpaper.

I'm waiting. What devious thing am I doing in order to create a
tarpaper coverup?

Dave K8MN

an old friend wrote:
You told us you lived in a tarpaper shack.



There's tarpaper under there somewhere.



ah yess another lie



Let me see if I understand you. You wan't to promote a quarrel over
whether there is tarpaper on my house? Do I have it correct?



no you don't




Well? Enlighten me. Tell me exactly what you mean. Tell me why you
believe I'm lying about tarpaper.

You're certainly hosing things up. The words in the three sentence
above, are mine, not yours.

you lied in calling something a Tarpaper shack, plain and simple

I'll bet you watch Monk on TV and don't find anything funny about the show.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:
cut

which mean what? that he knows nothing?

You know, I hadn't thought of that. I meant that the Roger Wiseman who
is behind these anonymous remailer posts is a non-entity in my life. He
has seen my precisely once in his life. But now that you've mentioned
it, he really is the kind of guy who knows little of anything. Use
Google and look under Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ and KC8JBO.


One I don't take your orders

You don't? Did you think I gave you an order a short time ago when you
provided Google links here, which you erroneously claimed were my flirts
in a personals newsgroup with a bisexual, married stripper?

you ordered nagged and harrased me till I did it and found what I see
as your flirting etc as well more of gay bashing in yet other groups
but never found what you claimed I would find

Two Noone knows nothing, even you must know something god help Ican't
say what it might be, but I am certain you know something

Who's noone?

noone at all

cut



You can't use your own name lest you have
the police on your doorstep again. You have to be very, very careful.


Really? Doubtful, since they haven't been on my doorstep.

Sure they have, a number of times, and you've been invited to see them
as well.


You know this How?

I learned of it during several visits to Glen Dale, WV Polic Chief
Norman Stenger. Glen Dale Police Officers are quite familiar with Mr.
Wiseman. They had dealings with him before my visits.


still don't see any proof you know this alleged fact

If it worries you, call 'em and ask: (304) 845-5511 gets you the city
building.

no Thanks do your own staking

And since when does
the police deny freedom of speech?

Since when *do* the police, not *does* the police. Your freedom of
speech stops where my rights begin.


gee you are very concerned about YOUR rights but support the abuse of
other poeple rights

You know not of what you speak.


I certainly do know of what I speak

Your saying so does not make your statement true. You may think it, but
you are not correct.

U agree may saying doesn't make it so, However it is so wether you
think so or not

Indeed I am quite convinced that you are so blinded by your bigotry
that you don't the abuses you comit agianst the right of others


yep I am beigin to wonder if you are not a cut out for Stevie

A cut out for him? Can you explain the concept?


you should know the term "cut out" if you don't then you are likely
lying about having a career any where the Govt.

Sorry. Does it have something to do with exhaust systems?

no

No wonder you
were relegated to doing errand type tasks for the "State Department."

I've never filled a job position which entailed "errand type tasks".


Oh, so you couldn't even make the errand boy grade?

Why don't you make it your life's work to try to find out?


why should anyone?

Precisely.


indeed you were an errand boy so what

Ahhhh, you're just practicing your lying again.

more dave fabrication

such an ego you have

It has nothing to do with my ego.


Big whooper

I saw a big Whooper the other day along Fish Creek. It was standing on
one leg.

Ok go take your meds

gee looking more like Stevie

Steve and I look nothing alike.


you 2 are very much alike in manner in the way you look online even
the way you don't bother with the uses of lang

We don't bother with the uses of lang?

knwo neither of you does

You monitor local FM repeaters


Good amateur practice says you should monitor before doing anything else. You'd
think an world class DXer who talks to out of banders like you would know that.

You know nothing of my activies on 6m from overseas. By the way, it is
"a world class DXer", not "an world class DXer". Makes little
difference, I've never claimed to be either.


If he and the rest of US know nothing then I guess all of your posts
about them must have been lies

You just jumped to a false conclusion. Folks here know only because
I've seen fit to tell them. The only folks who know for sure are those
who worked me on 6m....and me.


Not at all just one you don't like

What?

again check you english data bank

and with You I doubt even the other hams kew what they were dealing
with (or realy cared either)

We must be on another topic with which you have no familiarity. If I
was the only 6m op from a rare African DX spot and the band opened, the
ops on the other end of a QSO knew who and what they were dealing with
and they cared very much.

no we are not

You are off on one topic while the rest of us are on another topic,
which has been the porblem most of the time with you

aroogance now the speeling looks a lot like stevie
cut

YOu can tell by the aroogance and speeling, can you? C'mon. You had help.


I can tell no need for hel with you and stevie

I can see that. You are in a hel of your own making.

Really?

well then Id recomend you hope that Jeus isn't the god you will stand
before, as ahe may well ask why you didnot follow his teachings and yet
claimed to be one of his followers, but that is just some free advice

Hmm is Dave realy Stevie. It could be, but not likely Sadly Stevie's
abusive self centered is all too comon

You're still a twit, Mark.


In your view sure I am

Bank on it.

but Id rather be atwit than someone who promotes, aids criminals,
abusives the conistitution of the Us and the rest of th stuf you and
Stevie do

I think I would be too, Mark. Luckily for me, I'm not a twit, nor am I
any of the other things you've described in your own *special* style.

never said you were twit. You are however all the rest and far worse


Dave K8MN

Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:
In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:


Hiding behind the curtains.


That's rich, coming from somebody who thinks they are a character from a 1950's
TV show. Or should I say hiding behind a character from a 1950's TV show? Yes,
that's more correct.



Come see me fat boy, I sure won't hide behind the curtains like you do.