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"Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ink.net... "an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message cut Don't sweat it dipwad....I am completely and totally positive that with your attitude....No ham radio group would want your "assistance". where is Stveie to decry your profanity More of the Double standard Dan/W4NTI WHAT PROFANITY? DIPWAD? What a Putz. Dan/W4NTI You have to remember that most people are totally unclear as to the differences between profanity, vulgarity, obscenity, cursing, and swearing. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I know that they have sensitive virgin eyes. Perhaps they should also learn English. Dan/W4NTI |
"an old friend" wrote in message oups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... cut WHAT PROFANITY? DIPWAD? What a Putz. more profanity? Dan/W4NTI Your right Dee. Dan/W4NTI |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an old friend" wrote in message oups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... cut WHAT PROFANITY? DIPWAD? What a Putz. more profanity? Dan/W4NTI Your right Dee. Idoit there is nothign written by there to be right or wrong Dan/W4NTI |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message k.net... Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 03:08:47 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in . net: First you wrote: ...Ain't no one thumping chests here. Immediately followed by: I have ran several pieces of traffic from the disaster area tonight. Made the calls and I'm damn proud of Ham Radio. Hypocrite. If you don't like it. Gent bent It's morons like you who secretly -wanted- something this bad to happen just so you could have the opportunity to "step up to the plate". Yep, all those people are suffering and dying so -you- can feel good about being a ham -- you -should- be proud. You're statement is more than stupid. I know of no one, radio amateur or not, who wanted such a tragedy to take place. Get some perspective you sick expletive deleted. Wow! It is difficult to believe that one who thinks the way you do, could accept that it is you who needs the perspective. Dave K8MN The last time I saw anything like this was the rubble we left that used to be Cholon district of Saigon during TET. I still wake up seeing that. And to think this moron thinks anyone actually wished for a disaster that has hit the Gulf Coast of the US is beyond stupid. He is braindead. Well, thanks to all of you out there that know what is going on. I'm done dealing with this fool. My break is over, going back to the rig. 73 Dan/W4NTI |
Dee Flint wrote: "an old friend" wrote in message oups.com... cut And what has license class got to do with it ?? If you can't help with your radio activity and can't go, there alway always donations needed. The point is your individual negatism toward the ARRL and people's individual activities. I have already stated that I have donated But factual there is nothing a Tech class op in the UP can do at this as a radio op. That is a true statement and yet you flame me for it Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Dee Flint wrote: "an old friend" wrote in message ups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... cut Plenty of the Double standard we see all to often Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Hans has not indicated anything he couldn't actually do. You, on the other hand, from appearances so far, have not tried to find anyway you could contribute. Plus you put down someone who has contributed and is simply sharing his experience and taking pleasure in what good he and others can do. Every effort, large or small, is worth doing and celebrating. in a word Bull Dan is holding up passing a couple of messages as some great thing, what are they a drop in the bucket, together with all the others they do add up to something but to glorify hisown little bit into something that I call being a baragrt and I am not alone in holding that opinion now as toy your biased accusation against me personaly Gee how do you know what I have done or not done. I don't brag about such petty things as passing a few pieces of traffic but hans has Done nothing(at least by his words nothing) and is clearly able to do a great more than that. I have looked and found nothing I can without neglecting my own duties which are first to my family. you choose to flame the guy with the least abilty to do anything for doing the same as the guys able to do a great deal. Gee I call that unfair, thankfully I don't expect fairness, haven't since I was kid. You just start barking order to do what isn't possible. There's always donations needed. Speacking of HTS for monet I keep hearing there are VHF nets and yet I have never lived anywhere with one. Could some one provide a reference (location and band) where there is a real VHF traffic net. I would just like to know they in fact exist somewhere I check into the SE Michigan Traffic Net a couple of times a week. If you will look in the ARRL directory, there are quite a few VHF nets listed for Michigan. I have indeed but I guess you don't know where the UP of Michigan is there are a few VHF nets here but no linkage between them and the NTS as far as I know Like I said the double standard I have seen all to often in both the ARS and life. It would be refreshing to have someone at least be honest enough to admit to it Dee D. Flint, N8UZE No that double standard exists only in your own interpretations. No it exists in your actions Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Dan/W4NTI wrote: "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... cut Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I can see now I am fighting with a mental case. Here is a suggestion "old friend" START a VHF NET. Get some stations with HF capabilities to link with the HF network. There you are....your now in the system. Don't know how to do it? Don't trust my advice? Check with ARRL.org. DOn't trust them either probably. again with with yours suggestions/orders? I doubt that trying to dublicate the effort of the HF hams would go over very well Just who are you to tell how to run MY station/ If I am a mental case for asserting my own autonomy then so be it It isn't a matter of Trusting the ARRL it is a matter I don't support the ARRL, I don't feel they have been represnting the true interests of the ARS, other such as Carl Stevenson have held these views as well (although he seems to have changed his mind, and if he is succesfull I may give them another chance to earn my support) EXACTLY what some firebrands did in this part of Alabama. They started their own V/Uhf system. And it is a fabulous success. Oh...is that bragging again? You know what? I realy don't want to be such a fireband I have heard other round here tell their stories and am getting the feel of the land indeed I agree that HF based net make more sense here in the UP than VHF or UHF nets Indeed we have enough trouble maintianing our Skywarn nets on VHF hopefully the new 6M repeater we will soon have will help, if not I and everyone else will have to look at it some more Dan/W4NTI |
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: an old friend wrote: Just who are you to tell how to run MY station/ Someone needs to, you obviously don't know how. Not at all and NO One has the right short of the FCC One of the biggest problems poised to become the very biggest is the bossyness of various hams |
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: an old friend wrote: more lies Cmdr No lies, just the complete truth. You are a first class fake. First Class well that is better than many accept but you were lying Cmdr |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I can see now I am fighting with a mental case. Here is a suggestion "old friend" START a VHF NET. Get some stations with HF capabilities to link with the HF network. There you are....your now in the system. Don't know how to do it? Don't trust my advice? Check with ARRL.org. DOn't trust them either probably. EXACTLY what some firebrands did in this part of Alabama. They started their own V/Uhf system. And it is a fabulous success. Oh...is that bragging again? Dan/W4NTI old_friend doesn't want to go to the trouble to help, he just wants to whine and cry about others that do. He is part of the crowd we see that only complain about what is wrong in this disaster, but do nothing to help. |
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Just who are you to tell how to run MY station/ Someone needs to, you obviously don't know how. |
an old friend wrote:
more lies Cmdr No lies, just the complete truth. You are a first class fake. |
Jerry wrote:
This is from the Sunday Pensacola News Journal: Ham-radio operators assist in rescue fforts Tallahassee ham-radio operators guided emergency workers through daring helicopter rescue :, Friday of 1 ,500 patients and staff from two New Orleans hospitals besieged by darkness and gunfire. Urged by rapidly rising water 8 feet deep in places and the growing reality that New Orleans had become a drowning pool, the operators fashioned a satellite receptor atop an 8-story building in downtown Tallahassee. Three of them - Theo Titus, Gene Floyd and Bill Schmidt - boarded a helicopter in Tallahassee on Wednesday and headed for New Orleans. Atop the garage at Tulane University Hospital and Clinic, they set up a generator-powered .. ham radio with a satellite uplink. The men used that communication to direct pilots through the near-war zone as they evacuated decimated hospitals. "There were a lot of heroes in this operation," said operator Chuck Hall. Hall said the rescue was a small victory, but bigger obstacles remain. Hospitals have to be rebuilt. Patients have to get well, and New Orleans still faces months of recovery. "We had to overcome some small hurdles today, but the big hurdles are in front of us.". If THAT isn't in the thick of it, I really don't know WHAT you really want. I recall a thread recently where you insisted that Amateur Radio had no "real" part in emergency operations and that most such communications was handled withOUT the help of Amateur Radio. Yada Yada, Yada. Much will be done by MANY agencies and groups-even people lending backs and hands or a mere handkerchief to the effort. *Some* may be by Morse; much of it not. Some will handled by satellite and other data links as can be established like the gentlemen in the article. I am seeing PLENTY of articles on TV and radio about hams in the thick of the action--Even Larry King Live mentioned! The crux of your angst was not the Morse issue, but the viability of Amateur Radio itself as a vital part of our nation's communications infrastructure, which it is HAS been since the beginning. Nothing puts the lie to your ham-radio-is-not-vital-to-emergency-communications diatribe than this horrific tragedy. NO! It is NOT the onlyone--no one's saying it is--but it is certainly doing what it does best; serving the community and nation in anyway it can. And there are thousands staying out of the way until the phone rings, "Can YOU come and do......................."? Or relaying messages into and out of NO and other stricken area. MOST amateurs that respond, whether it be some heroic effort or merely letting a daughter know that her Daddy is safe via HF radio will do so without expecting or receiving so much as a quick "Thanks, man". They wouldn't have it any other way! :) J Jerry: What we have here are three individuals that: (1) two of them are either too dumb or too lazy to have every gotten a ham license, thus they are on the outside looking in, and they see what ham radio can do in assisting in emergencies and they can't be a part of it so it really chaps their butt, and (2) the other, who claims to be a ham is nothing more than a do-nothing baby, who just crys and whines about what others are doing because he is either too stupid or too lazy to do something himself. |
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:28:48 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote in . net: "Dave Heil" wrote in message nk.net... Frank Gilliland wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 03:08:47 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in . net: First you wrote: ...Ain't no one thumping chests here. Immediately followed by: I have ran several pieces of traffic from the disaster area tonight. Made the calls and I'm damn proud of Ham Radio. Hypocrite. If you don't like it. Gent bent It's morons like you who secretly -wanted- something this bad to happen just so you could have the opportunity to "step up to the plate". Yep, all those people are suffering and dying so -you- can feel good about being a ham -- you -should- be proud. You're statement is more than stupid. I know of no one, radio amateur or not, who wanted such a tragedy to take place. Get some perspective you sick expletive deleted. Wow! It is difficult to believe that one who thinks the way you do, could accept that it is you who needs the perspective. Dave K8MN The last time I saw anything like this was the rubble we left that used to be Cholon district of Saigon during TET. I still wake up seeing that. ......oh brother, another war vet. I must have met more people who claimed to have served in Viet-Nam than people who actually -did- serve there. And to compare my post to the TET offensive is even more sick than your wannabe-hero complex. And to think this moron thinks anyone actually wished for a disaster that has hit the Gulf Coast of the US is beyond stupid. He is braindead. It's hardly inconceivable. Just go to any field day and listen to how they talk. Those wannabe-hero hams practically wet their pants at the thought of a disaster and the opportunity to "show their stuff" and "step up to the plate". Just like you do, Dan. Well, thanks to all of you out there that know what is going on. I'm done dealing with this fool. My break is over, going back to the rig. Typical. You can't face your own dysfunction so you just ignore it. PLEASE tell me that you didn't raise any kids....!!!!! ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: Dan/W4NTI wrote: cut Dan/W4NTI old_friend doesn't want to go to the trouble to help, he just wants to whine and cry about others that do. He is part of the crowd we see that only complain about what is wrong in this disaster, but do nothing to help. more lies Cmdr I done my part to help may do if needed |
Frank Gilliland wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:28:48 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in . net: cut Wow! It is difficult to believe that one who thinks the way you do, could accept that it is you who needs the perspective. Dave K8MN The last time I saw anything like this was the rubble we left that used to be Cholon district of Saigon during TET. I still wake up seeing that. .....oh brother, another war vet. I must have met more people who claimed to have served in Viet-Nam than people who actually -did- serve there. And to compare my post to the TET offensive is even more sick than your wannabe-hero complex. not sure about the levels of sickness (and don't want to debate it) And to think this moron thinks anyone actually wished for a disaster that has hit the Gulf Coast of the US is beyond stupid. He is braindead. It's hardly inconceivable. Just go to any field day and listen to how they talk. Those wannabe-hero hams practically wet their pants at the thought of a disaster and the opportunity to "show their stuff" and "step up to the plate". Just like you do, Dan. indeed I have heard on the repeater a few ham going on about the the fact they wish there was disatser traffic for the UP of michigan. I for one am glad our area is little affected, even gas supplies are not much affected for us(we get ours is barges and we have the fuel we will burn till about march aready sitting round) I am sorry of these folks gald that Ham radio can help out but sick the Hero Wanna bes Well, thanks to all of you out there that know what is going on. I'm done dealing with this fool. My break is over, going back to the rig. Typical. You can't face your own dysfunction so you just ignore it. PLEASE tell me that you didn't raise any kids....!!!!! I don't about Dan or Dave but Stevie has god help the poor dears |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:28:48 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in . net: And to think this moron thinks anyone actually wished for a disaster that has hit the Gulf Coast of the US is beyond stupid. He is braindead. It's hardly inconceivable. Just go to any field day and listen to how they talk. Those wannabe-hero hams practically wet their pants at the thought of a disaster and the opportunity to "show their stuff" and "step up to the plate". Just like you do, Dan. I've participated in Field Day many times over the course of 40+ years, from several geographic locations and with a number of different groups. I have never heard anything like you've described from any participant. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:28:48 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in . net: And to think this moron thinks anyone actually wished for a disaster that has hit the Gulf Coast of the US is beyond stupid. He is braindead. It's hardly inconceivable. Just go to any field day and listen to how they talk. Those wannabe-hero hams practically wet their pants at the thought of a disaster and the opportunity to "show their stuff" and "step up to the plate". Just like you do, Dan. I've participated in Field Day many times over the course of 40+ years, from several geographic locations and with a number of different groups. I have never heard anything like you've described from any participant. Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code Dave K8MN |
As Telecom Reels From Storm Damage, Ham Radios Hum By CHRISTOPHER RHOADS Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL September 6, 2005; Page A19 MONROE, La. -- In a shelter here, 300 miles north of New Orleans, Theo McDaniel took his plight to a young man fiddling with a clunky, outdated-looking radio. Mr. McDaniel, a 25-year-old barber, had evacuated New Orleans with his wife and two small children more than a week ago and since then had had no contact with his brother or his aunt. The last he heard, his 42-year-old aunt was clinging to her roof. "We've got to get a message down there to help them," he said. The man at the radio sent the information to the emergency-operations center across town, which relayed it to rescue units in New Orleans. Later in the weekend, Mr. McDaniel learned that food and water were on the way to his trapped brother and his brother's young family. He had heard nothing about his aunt. With Hurricane Katrina having knocked out nearly all the high-end emergency communications gear, 911 centers, cellphone towers and normal fixed phone lines in its path, ham-radio operators have begun to fill the information vacuum. "Right now, 99.9% of normal communications in the affected region is nonexistent," says David Gore, the man operating the ham radio in the Monroe shelter. "That's where we come in." In an age of high-tech, real-time gadgetry, it's the decidedly unsexy ham radio -- whose technology has changed little since World War II -- that is in high demand in ravaged New Orleans and environs. The Red Cross issued a request for about 500 amateur radio operators -- known as "hams" -- for the 260 shelters it is erecting in the area. The American Radio Relay League, a national association of ham-radio operators, has been deluged with requests to find people in the region. The U.S. Coast Guard is looking for hams to help with its relief efforts. Ham radios, battery operated, work well when others don't in part because they are simple. Each operator acts as his own base station, requiring only his radio and about 50 feet of fence wire to transmit messages thousands of miles. Ham radios can send messages on multiple channels and in myriad ways, including Morse code, microwave frequencies and even email. Then there are the ham-radio operators themselves, a band of radio enthusiasts who spend hours jabbering with each other even during normal times. They are often the first to get messages in and out of disaster areas, in part because they are everywhere. (The ARRL estimates there are 250,000 active licensed hams in the U.S.) Sometimes they are the only source of information in the first hours following a disaster. "No matter how good the homeland-security system is, it will be overwhelmed," says Thomas Leggett, a retired mill worker manning a ham radio in the operations center here. "You don't hear about us, but we are there." Slidell, a town 30 miles northeast of New Orleans, was directly hit by the hurricane and remains virtually cut off from the outside world. One of the few, if not the only, communications links is Michael King, a retired Navy captain, operating a ham radio out of a Slidell hospital. "How are you holding up, Mike?" asked Sharon Riviere into a ham-radio microphone at Monroe's operations center. She and her husband, Ron, who is the president of the Slidell ham-radio club, had evacuated before the storm to the home of some fellow ham-radio enthusiasts in Monroe. She said Mr. King had been working 20-hour days since the storm hit. Crackling static and odd, garbled sounds followed her question to Mr. King. Then he replied: "It's total devastation here. I've got 18 feet of water at my house. Johnny's Caf? down there has water up to its roof." Ms. Riviere asked about her own home, which is not far from Mr. King's. "It's full of mud," Mr. King replied. "Looks like someone's been slugging it out in there." Ham radios are often most effective as one link in a chain of communication devices. Early last week, someone trapped with 15 people on a roof of a New Orleans home tried unsuccessfully to get through to a 911 center on his cellphone. He was able to call a relative in Baton Rouge, who in turn called another relative, Sybil Hayes, in Broken Arrow, Okla. Ms. Hayes, whose 81-year-old aunt was among those stranded on the New Orleans roof, then called the Red Cross in Broken Arrow, which handed the message to its affiliated ham-radio operator, Ben Joplin. Via stations in Oregon, Idaho and Louisiana, Mr. Joplin got the message to rescue workers who were able to save the 15 people on the roof, according to the ARRL, based in Newington, Conn. "We are like the Pony Express," says the 26-year-old Mr. Gore, wearing black cowboy boots. "One way or the other, even by hand, we will get you the message." Mr. Gore, who is in charge of the northeastern district of Louisiana for the Amateur Radio Emergency Service, has spent a lot of time the past week at the Monroe shelter, helping evacuees try to track missing friends and relatives. Last Monday, Danita Alexander of Violet, La., came to a ham operator in the Monroe shelter asking about her 96-year-old grandfather, Willie Bright, who had been in a nursing home in New Orleans. The next day, she got word back from a ham operator that he had been safely transferred to a shelter near New Orleans. "We can't do enough of these," says Mark Ketchell, who runs the ARES branch in Monroe. Nevertheless, the ham-radio community feels under threat. Telecom companies want to deliver broadband Internet connections over power lines, which ham-radio operators say distorts communications in the surrounding area. Since hams are "amateurs," there is little lobbying money to fight such changes, they add. The hams also get little respect from telecommunications-equipment companies, such as Motorola Inc. "Something is better than nothing, that's right," says Jim Screeden, who runs all of Motorola's repair teams in the field for its emergency-response business. "But ham radios are pretty close to nothing." Mr. Screeden says ham radios can take a long time to relay messages and work essentially as "party lines," with multiple parties talking at once. Says Mr. Leggett at the Monroe operations center: "We are the unwanted stepchild. But when the s--- hits the fan, who are you going to call?" |
a much better peice Hans than Dans show us properly warts and merits
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"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... Jerry wrote: This is from the Sunday Pensacola News Journal: Ham-radio operators assist in rescue fforts Tallahassee ham-radio operators guided emergency workers through daring helicopter rescue :, Friday of 1 ,500 patients and staff from two New Orleans hospitals besieged by darkness and gunfire. Urged by rapidly rising water 8 feet deep in places and the growing reality that New Orleans had become a drowning pool, the operators fashioned a satellite receptor atop an 8-story building in downtown Tallahassee. Three of them - Theo Titus, Gene Floyd and Bill Schmidt - boarded a helicopter in Tallahassee on Wednesday and headed for New Orleans. Atop the garage at Tulane University Hospital and Clinic, they set up a generator-powered .. ham radio with a satellite uplink. The men used that communication to direct pilots through the near-war zone as they evacuated decimated hospitals. "There were a lot of heroes in this operation," said operator Chuck Hall. Hall said the rescue was a small victory, but bigger obstacles remain. Hospitals have to be rebuilt. Patients have to get well, and New Orleans still faces months of recovery. "We had to overcome some small hurdles today, but the big hurdles are in front of us.". If THAT isn't in the thick of it, I really don't know WHAT you really want. I recall a thread recently where you insisted that Amateur Radio had no "real" part in emergency operations and that most such communications was handled withOUT the help of Amateur Radio. Yada Yada, Yada. Much will be done by MANY agencies and groups-even people lending backs and hands or a mere handkerchief to the effort. *Some* may be by Morse; much of it not. Some will handled by satellite and other data links as can be established like the gentlemen in the article. I am seeing PLENTY of articles on TV and radio about hams in the thick of the action--Even Larry King Live mentioned! The crux of your angst was not the Morse issue, but the viability of Amateur Radio itself as a vital part of our nation's communications infrastructure, which it is HAS been since the beginning. Nothing puts the lie to your ham-radio-is-not-vital-to-emergency-communications diatribe than this horrific tragedy. NO! It is NOT the onlyone--no one's saying it is--but it is certainly doing what it does best; serving the community and nation in anyway it can. And there are thousands staying out of the way until the phone rings, "Can YOU come and do......................."? Or relaying messages into and out of NO and other stricken area. MOST amateurs that respond, whether it be some heroic effort or merely letting a daughter know that her Daddy is safe via HF radio will do so without expecting or receiving so much as a quick "Thanks, man". They wouldn't have it any other way! :) J Jerry: What we have here are three individuals that: (1) two of them are either too dumb or too lazy to have every gotten a ham license, thus they are on the outside looking in, and they see what ham radio can do in assisting in emergencies and they can't be a part of it so it really chaps their butt, and (2) the other, who claims to be a ham is nothing more than a do-nothing baby, who just crys and whines about what others are doing because he is either too stupid or too lazy to do something himself. |
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:28:48 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in nk.net: And to think this moron thinks anyone actually wished for a disaster that has hit the Gulf Coast of the US is beyond stupid. He is braindead. It's hardly inconceivable. Just go to any field day and listen to how they talk. Those wannabe-hero hams practically wet their pants at the thought of a disaster and the opportunity to "show their stuff" and "step up to the plate". Just like you do, Dan. I've participated in Field Day many times over the course of 40+ years, from several geographic locations and with a number of different groups. I have never heard anything like you've described from any participant. Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote: It's hardly inconceivable. Just go to any field day and listen to how they talk. Those wannabe-hero hams practically wet their pants at the thought of a disaster and the opportunity to "show their stuff" and "step up to the plate". Just like you do, Dan. I've participated in Field Day many times over the course of 40+ years, from several geographic locations and with a number of different groups. I have never heard anything like you've described from any participant. Dave K8MN And the frankieboy the cb king hasn't either. Just something he makes up to make him feel good because he can't get a ham license. |
an Old friend wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: Dan/W4NTI wrote: cut Dan/W4NTI old_friend doesn't want to go to the trouble to help, he just wants to whine and cry about others that do. He is part of the crowd we see that only complain about what is wrong in this disaster, but do nothing to help. more lies Cmdr I done my part to help may do if needed No lies, and you have to be the dumbest person I have ever run across on this newsgroup, with lennieboy and frankie the cb king running a close second. |
an_old_friend wrote:
a much better peice Hans than Dans show us properly warts and merits both Whatever the hell that sentence is supposed to mean. |
KØHB wrote:
In an age of high-tech, real-time gadgetry, it's the decidedly unsexy ham radio -- whose technology has changed little since World War II -- that is in high demand in ravaged New Orleans and environs. The Red Cross issued a request for about 500 amateur radio operators -- known as "hams" -- for the 260 shelters it is erecting in the area. Wonder why they didn't just issue a request for frankieboy and all his cb "good buddies" to show up? Do you think it could have anything to do with the fact that they would only add to the confusion of the disaster? The U.S. Coast Guard is looking for hams to help with its relief efforts. Not looking for the "ten fer thar" cb boys to help? For shame. With Hurricane Katrina having knocked out nearly all the high-end emergency communications gear, 911 centers, cellphone towers and normal fixed phone lines in its path, ham-radio operators have begun to fill the information vacuum. "Right now, 99.9% of normal communications in the affected region is nonexistent," says David Gore, the man operating the ham radio in the Monroe shelter. "That's where we come in." More bad news for lennieboy, frankieboy the cb king, and an_old_halfwit. Ham radios, battery operated, work well when others don't in part because they are simple. Each operator acts as his own base station, requiring only his radio and about 50 feet of fence wire to transmit messages thousands of miles. Ham radios can send messages on multiple channels and in myriad ways, including Morse code, microwave frequencies and even email. Heavens!! Hams using an outdated mode such as Morse code, what is the world of ham radio coming to? Then there are the ham-radio operators themselves, a band of radio enthusiasts who spend hours jabbering with each other even during normal times. They are often the first to get messages in and out of disaster areas, in part because they are everywhere. (The ARRL estimates there are 250,000 active licensed hams in the U.S.) Sometimes they are the only source of information in the first hours following a disaster. "No matter how good the homeland-security system is, it will be overwhelmed," says Thomas Leggett, a retired mill worker manning a ham radio in the operations center here. "You don't hear about us, but we are there." Gee, wonder where all that cell phone cabability went to that some claim make ham radio obselete in times of disaster? Ham radios are often most effective as one link in a chain of communication devices. Early last week, someone trapped with 15 people on a roof of a New Orleans home tried unsuccessfully to get through to a 911 center on his cellphone. Oh no, you mean the very system that would make ham radio obselete in times of a disaster wouldn't work? The hams also get little respect from telecommunications-equipment companies, such as Motorola Inc. "Something is better than nothing, that's right," says Jim Screeden, who runs all of Motorola's repair teams in the field for its emergency-response business. "But ham radios are pretty close to nothing." Mr. Screeden says ham radios can take a long time to relay messages and work essentially as "party lines," with multiple parties talking at once. And a Motorola system that isn't working, such as the ones in NO, can't deleiver a message at all. |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. I can use any mode I want Dave we have had that dicussion before even CW if I like but of course you have no sense of humor either Dave K8MN |
See This One
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke%5C31333.html AND http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9228945/#storyContinued AND http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2005/08/30/1/ While some of you are bashing Ham Radio -- these folks are helping Katrina Victims -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! |
Caveat Lector wrote: See This One http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke%5C31333.html AND http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9228945/#storyContinued AND http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2005/08/30/1/ While some of you are bashing Ham Radio -- these folks are helping Katrina Victims Bshing Ham radio hmmm.... I gues another stevie clone at work questioning ONE ham is bashing all hams. Is it Stevie or is it just another fellow who has been brain washed Hard to tell -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! |
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. I can use any mode I want Dave we have had that dicussion before even CW if I like Super, Mark. Next Field Day, you do your CW thing with a PC and morse reading software. I'll do it the old-fashioned way and work CW only. We'll see if you can really operate CW or whether you're blowing smoke. If I don't beat you by a 10:1 QSO ratio, I'll relent and consider you a real CW op. I'm even willing to proclaim it here if you accept the challenge. Logs must be submitted to the ARRL. but of course you have no sense of humor either I'm responding to you, aren't I? Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. I can use any mode I want Dave we have had that dicussion before even CW if I like Super, Mark. Next Field Day, you do your CW thing with a PC and morse reading software. I'll do it the old-fashioned way and work CW only. We'll see if you can really operate CW or whether you're blowing smoke. If I don't beat you by a 10:1 QSO ratio, I'll relent and consider you a real CW op. I'm even willing to proclaim it here if you accept the challenge. Logs must be submitted to the ARRL. but of course you have no sense of humor either I'm responding to you, aren't I? more nonsesne from Dave Dave K8MN |
an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. I can use any mode I want Dave we have had that dicussion before even CW if I like Super, Mark. Next Field Day, you do your CW thing with a PC and morse reading software. I'll do it the old-fashioned way and work CW only. We'll see if you can really operate CW or whether you're blowing smoke. If I don't beat you by a 10:1 QSO ratio, I'll relent and consider you a real CW op. I'm even willing to proclaim it here if you accept the challenge. Logs must be submitted to the ARRL. but of course you have no sense of humor either I'm responding to you, aren't I? more nonsesne from Dave What nonsense, Mark? You said you could use CW. Use it. Take up the challenge. I've given you ten to one odds. You make 100 QSOs and I'd have to make at least 1,000 to win. How easy do I have to make it for you? I'm a no-"nonsesne" kind of guy. Dave K8MN |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ink.net... an old friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. I can use any mode I want Dave we have had that dicussion before even CW if I like Super, Mark. Next Field Day, you do your CW thing with a PC and morse reading software. I'll do it the old-fashioned way and work CW only. We'll see if you can really operate CW or whether you're blowing smoke. If I don't beat you by a 10:1 QSO ratio, I'll relent and consider you a real CW op. I'm even willing to proclaim it here if you accept the challenge. Logs must be submitted to the ARRL. but of course you have no sense of humor either I'm responding to you, aren't I? more nonsesne from Dave What nonsense, Mark? You said you could use CW. Use it. Take up the challenge. I've given you ten to one odds. You make 100 QSOs and I'd have to make at least 1,000 to win. How easy do I have to make it for you? I'm a no-"nonsesne" kind of guy. Dave K8MN Dave, Everything is "nonsesne" to him. Especially those that disagree with him. Which seems to be most everyone. Dan/W4NTI |
Dave Heil wrote: an old friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. I can use any mode I want Dave we have had that dicussion before even CW if I like Super, Mark. Next Field Day, you do your CW thing with a PC and morse reading software. I'll do it the old-fashioned way and work CW only. We'll see if you can really operate CW or whether you're blowing smoke. If I don't beat you by a 10:1 QSO ratio, I'll relent and consider you a real CW op. I'm even willing to proclaim it here if you accept the challenge. Logs must be submitted to the ARRL. but of course you have no sense of humor either I'm responding to you, aren't I? more nonsesne from Dave but again proving you aren't reading, the nonsense is your claim that you have a sense of humor What nonsense, Mark? You said you could use CW. Use it. Take up the challenge. I've given you ten to one odds. You make 100 QSOs and I'd have to make at least 1,000 to win. How easy do I have to make it for you? Why take you up on a challenge? What do I gain? If I shoudl prvail you will not adknoweldge it or admit to it. if I should fail then you will keep going on about til you become a SK. I have work CW on FD and frankly this year I am looking forward to trying FD from Home with my own station, and to have fun doing it, so I am bussy and you are offering a challenge with no upside, to replace my plans. and then you dare wonder why I am not interested I'm a no-"nonsesne" kind of guy. you are full of nonsense, and full of **** for that matter Dave K8MN |
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ink.net... an old friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. I can use any mode I want Dave we have had that dicussion before even CW if I like Super, Mark. Next Field Day, you do your CW thing with a PC and morse reading software. I'll do it the old-fashioned way and work CW only. We'll see if you can really operate CW or whether you're blowing smoke. If I don't beat you by a 10:1 QSO ratio, I'll relent and consider you a real CW op. I'm even willing to proclaim it here if you accept the challenge. Logs must be submitted to the ARRL. but of course you have no sense of humor either I'm responding to you, aren't I? more nonsesne from Dave What nonsense, Mark? You said you could use CW. Use it. Take up the challenge. I've given you ten to one odds. You make 100 QSOs and I'd have to make at least 1,000 to win. How easy do I have to make it for you? I'm a no-"nonsesne" kind of guy. Dave K8MN Dave, Everything is "nonsesne" to him. Especially those that disagree with him. Which seems to be most everyone. In all honesty, I think anything written is perplexing to Mark. He assumes that if it is nonsense to him, it is nonsense to all--a sort of equal opportunity confusion. I made him an easy challenge. Even a guy who uses code-reading software and a PC should be able to generate 100 QSOs during a 24-hour FD period. Maybe I'm being unfair to him. Perhaps I need to give him a 15:1 ratio as an advantage. I've offered to publicly acknowledge him as a real CW op if he wins. I think I should be able to claim something if he loses. Perhaps he could kiss my ass on the fifty-yard line at a WVU home football game if he falls short. Maybe he has re-thought his claim about his being able to use CW. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: Dan/W4NTI wrote: "Dave Heil" wrote in message ink.net... cut Maybe he has re-thought his claim about his being able to use CW. nope I just don't bet with folks that are not trustworthy Dave K8MN |
an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an old friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Of course you haven't they don't talk about that in Morse Code During FD 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, none of the ops present sat about chatting in morse code. I use any number of modes in my amateur radio operation, Mark. You do as you can; I'll do as I choose. I can use any mode I want Dave we have had that dicussion before even CW if I like Super, Mark. Next Field Day, you do your CW thing with a PC and morse reading software. I'll do it the old-fashioned way and work CW only. We'll see if you can really operate CW or whether you're blowing smoke. If I don't beat you by a 10:1 QSO ratio, I'll relent and consider you a real CW op. I'm even willing to proclaim it here if you accept the challenge. Logs must be submitted to the ARRL. but of course you have no sense of humor either I'm responding to you, aren't I? more nonsesne from Dave but again proving you aren't reading, the nonsense is your claim that you have a sense of humor I'm responding to you, aren't I? What nonsense, Mark? You said you could use CW. Use it. Take up the challenge. I've given you ten to one odds. You make 100 QSOs and I'd have to make at least 1,000 to win. How easy do I have to make it for you? Why take you up on a challenge? What do I gain? If I shoudl prvail you will not adknoweldge it or admit to it. if I should fail then you will keep going on about til you become a SK. I have work CW on FD and frankly this year I am looking forward to trying FD from Home with my own station, and to have fun doing it, so I am bussy and you are offering a challenge with no upside, to replace my plans. and then you dare wonder why I am not interested I'm a no-"nonsesne" kind of guy. you are full of nonsense, and full of **** for that matter Does this mean that you do not accept the very generous challenge I've put before you? Dave K8MN |
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