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Dave Heil October 18th 05 10:10 PM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

KØHB wrote:

"an Old friend" wrote



I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example


???????????????????????


His local gang was tlaking to their new club official. None of them
knew anything about frequencies used for 6m AM operation.



not at all

I was trying to spark an On Topic discussion HERE about how folks
would go about local band planing


It is "band planning", Mark and it isn't done on a local basis. It is
done on a national and regional basis. If we decided to implement a
local band plan for 2m here, the 2m users in Pittsburgh, Morgantown,
Parkersburg, Marietta and Columbus would be in a dither. You told us of
your lack of knowledge of where 6m AM activity might be found. A couple
of us told you. Now you'll undoubtedly string us along for a number of
posts as you did over the 60m "band".

Dave K8MN

all the bitching about the Off topic stuff


Dave Heil October 18th 05 10:14 PM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 
wrote:
KØHB wrote:

"an Old friend" wrote


I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example


???????????????????????



Hans appears incapable.

Try your local frequency coordinating body, perhaps the repeater
coordinating body for 6M, if that is your interest. Each state or
locality is different.


Not for 6m AM, SSB or CW it isn't. Do you know of any 6m AM repeaters
anywhere?

Dave K8MN


K4YZ October 18th 05 10:31 PM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 

wrote:
KØHB wrote:
"an Old friend" wrote

I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example


???????????????????????


Hans appears incapable.


Incapable of what?

Try your local frequency coordinating body, perhaps the repeater
coordinating body for 6M, if that is your interest. Each state or
locality is different.


Half right...Again...

Or why not simply use the band plan suggestions as they appear in
the Repeater Guide?

Guess the suggestions made were too simplistic? We HAVE to have a
fight over this?

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend October 18th 05 11:44 PM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 

Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

KØHB wrote:

"an Old friend" wrote



I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example


???????????????????????

His local gang was tlaking to their new club official. None of them
knew anything about frequencies used for 6m AM operation.



not at all

I was trying to spark an On Topic discussion HERE about how folks
would go about local band planing


It is "band planning", Mark and it isn't done on a local basis.


according the ARRL it can be

It is
done on a national and regional basis. If we decided to implement a
local band plan for 2m here, the 2m users in Pittsburgh, Morgantown,
Parkersburg, Marietta and Columbus would be in a dither.


so?

You told us of
your lack of knowledge of where 6m AM activity might be found.


can't you tell the turth about anything

A couple
of us told you. Now you'll undoubtedly string us along for a number of
posts as you did over the 60m "band".

Dave K8MN

all the bitching about the Off topic stuff



an_old_friend October 18th 05 11:46 PM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
KØHB wrote:
"an Old friend" wrote

I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example

???????????????????????


Hans appears incapable.


Incapable of what?

Try your local frequency coordinating body, perhaps the repeater
coordinating body for 6M, if that is your interest. Each state or
locality is different.


Half right...Again...

Or why not simply use the band plan suggestions as they appear in
the Repeater Guide?


the band plans themselve mention the possiblity of local varriations


Guess the suggestions made were too simplistic? We HAVE to have a
fight over this?


guess you do

I was just trying to spark On topic discussion related to the prupose
of NG on a subject I have always been curious about

Steve, K4YZ



Dave Heil October 19th 05 01:35 AM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


KØHB wrote:


"an Old friend" wrote




I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example


???????????????????????

His local gang was tlaking to their new club official. None of them
knew anything about frequencies used for 6m AM operation.


not at all

I was trying to spark an On Topic discussion HERE about how folks
would go about local band planing


It is "band planning", Mark and it isn't done on a local basis.



according the ARRL it can be


Really? Here's the url for the ARRL band plans. Please point out the
portion dealing with local variations.

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg.../bandplan.html



It is
done on a national and regional basis. If we decided to implement a
local band plan for 2m here, the 2m users in Pittsburgh, Morgantown,
Parkersburg, Marietta and Columbus would be in a dither.



so?


Whaddya mean, "so"? If everyone takes it upon himself to implement a
"local band plan" then there isn't any band plan. FM ops interfere with
SSB ops, packet ops interfere with FM repeater operation and repeaters
interfere with each other. Where's that IQ of 248 that you've claimed?

While we're on that topic, there's some interesting info to be found at:

http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1997/dec/d28-001.shtml

It say, in part:

"To answer your question, we can simply pickup a 1989 copy of the
Guinness Book
of World Records . Marilyn Vos Savant is listed on page 26 as having the
highest recorded IQ . It says '...as a ten year old she achieved a ceiling
score for 23-year-olds, thus giving her an IQ of 228.' Her record was
retired
to the guinness hall of fame because scores that high are no longer possible
due to a lowering of test score ceilings. (As I'm sure you're already
guessing
it's because scores that high weren't very valid in the first place.) Most
other reference books state Marilyn Vos Savant's, IQ at 190, and still the
highest ever recorded."

That'd make your claim preposterous.


You told us of
your lack of knowledge of where 6m AM activity might be found.



can't you tell the turth about anything


Here's the "turth", the whole "turth" and nothing but the "turth":

"been chatting with some locals interested in some AM stuff on 6M and
prehaps elsewhere planety of really unsed rf 'real estate' but little
mention of anything but ssb cw and Fm on the bandplans"

--Mark Morgan

There you go, Colonel. "Planety" of material on "unsed" rf real estate
for you to chew on.


A couple
of us told you. Now you'll undoubtedly string us along for a number of
posts as you did over the 60m "band".


....and you've already begun!

Dave K8MN

[email protected] October 19th 05 01:49 AM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
KØHB wrote:
"an Old friend" wrote

I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example

???????????????????????


Hans appears incapable.

Try your local frequency coordinating body, perhaps the repeater
coordinating body for 6M, if that is your interest. Each state or
locality is different.


Not for 6m AM, SSB or CW it isn't.


No? Every state and locality can be different. One size does not fit
all. Read your ARRL repeater guide. Notice all the caveats wrt band
plans, coordination, and even spacing.

Do you know of any 6m AM repeaters
anywhere?

Dave K8MN


Do you know why there can't be?


[email protected] October 19th 05 01:52 AM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
KØHB wrote:
"an Old friend" wrote

I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example

???????????????????????


Hans appears incapable.


Incapable of what?


Incapable of everything that he was responding to.

Try your local frequency coordinating body, perhaps the repeater
coordinating body for 6M, if that is your interest. Each state or
locality is different.


Half right...Again...


100% Correct, Again. As Usual.

Or why not simply use the band plan suggestions as they appear in
the Repeater Guide?


Too easy. Amateur radio is supposed to be a challenge. Gotta "work
hard."

Guess the suggestions made were too simplistic? We HAVE to have a
fight over this?

Steve, K4YZ


With fists and axe handles. "Gangs of New York" and all that.


[email protected] October 19th 05 01:56 AM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
KØHB wrote:
"an Old friend" wrote

I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example

???????????????????????

Hans appears incapable.


Incapable of what?

Try your local frequency coordinating body, perhaps the repeater
coordinating body for 6M, if that is your interest. Each state or
locality is different.


Half right...Again...

Or why not simply use the band plan suggestions as they appear in
the Repeater Guide?


the band plans themselve mention the possiblity of local varriations


Oooh! Ouch!! No!!!

Say it ain't so....

The MMM have spoken, and the ARRL Repeater Guide is Wrong, Wrongg,
WRONGGG!!!

Guess the suggestions made were too simplistic? We HAVE to have a
fight over this?


guess you do


A$$hole Flambe' gotta have a fight.

I was just trying to spark On topic discussion related to the prupose
of NG on a subject I have always been curious about


Yikes! Whatever possessed you to try an on-topic discussion?

Hope my reply helped. You're in Michigan? Do you want to
coordinator's info?


[email protected] October 19th 05 02:03 AM

how a policy issue for a change...local bandplaning
 

Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

KØHB wrote:

"an Old friend" wrote

I was trying to tlak the subject in general merely giving an example

???????????????????????

His local gang was tlaking to their new club official. None of them
knew anything about frequencies used for 6m AM operation.


not at all

I was trying to spark an On Topic discussion HERE about how folks
would go about local band planing


It is "band planning", Mark and it isn't done on a local basis.


It can be on vhf and above frequencies. You just need to open your
mind a little, a very little.

It is
done on a national and regional basis. If we decided to implement a
local band plan for 2m here, the 2m users in Pittsburgh, Morgantown,
Parkersburg, Marietta and Columbus would be in a dither.


There is still room for local variation in a regional plan.

You told us of
your lack of knowledge of where 6m AM activity might be found. A couple
of us told you. Now you'll undoubtedly string us along for a number of
posts as you did over the 60m "band".

Dave K8MN


Perhaps he and other associates have no 6M crystal for where the AM
activity might be found and wants a local variation.



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