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You need to have REAL distinctions is Testing Material VS Priveleges
between the license classes.

There are real distinctions in the tested material. The distinctions
in privileges are less clear.

Those distinctions do not presently exist.

Sure they do. The trouble you perceive is that they're not directly
related to the
additional privileges granted.


Why does the test material need to be directly related to the privileges
granted? It is quite common in life that they are not directly related but
is instead, something that is very desireable.

Sure. Make amateur radio a divine comedy, and study Dante.

In ham radio, that would be
spectrum and power. The goal of the FCC is, based on their comments in
various NPRMs and the goals and purpose stated in Part 97, is that hams
continue to increase their knowledge and engage in self training. So they
tie increase technical knowlegde to increase spectrum and power privileges.

Is that why the FCC gives ALL power priveleges to their ENTRY LEVEL
LICENSEES?

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I -expect- the FCC to eliminate arbitrary and redundant licensing
requirements and license classes.

To achieve that, the FCC would need to totally redefine the basis and
purpose of amateur radio. One of the elements is self training and
technical knowlegde. You encourage that by using increased privileges
(spectrum and power) to get people to study and take additional tests.

Is that why the FCC gives ALL power priveleges to their ENTRY LEVEL
LICENSEES?

I just want the FCC to start making sense.

IOW, you expect the FCC to agree with you on everything without
you having to convince them.

The FCC looks foolish for not having dealt with these issues already.

To whom? Perhaps you should tell the FCC they look foolish...

They do not look foolish when you view the tests and privileges in terms of
the basis and purpose of amateur radio.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Maybe you're right. They look ridiculous.

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Dave Heil wrote:
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Jim has tatoos?

I was imagining his performances in here to be the equivalent of
James Mitchum's creepy "preacher" in an old, scary black-and-white
film released in the 1950s.

Robert Mitchum. 1954. Night of the Hunter from the novel by Davis Grubb.
The author was from up the road in Moundsville. The story is set in
this area.

Hmmmm...that explains a lot about Davie Heil's character...:-)


That character had L-O-V-E on one
hand, H-A-T-E on the other...liked to off folks that didn't
believe in him.

Believing in him had nothing to do with it. He killed prostitutes and
dancers because he thought they were evil and he killed widows for their
money. The guy wasn't even a real preacher.

I am imagining Davie Heil with C-O-D-E on one hand, T-E-S-T on
the other. :-)

Running around killing the NCTA because he thinks they were evil.

Sounds VERY familiar! :-)


Did they ever catch him, or is he still running around the hills of
Moundsville?

Was he a ham preacher?

He is apparently of the undead, this time inhabiting the corpus
of a corpulent K8 ham?

"Corp diem?"

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Dave Heil wrote:
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Jim has tatoos?
I was imagining his performances in here to be the equivalent of
James Mitchum's creepy "preacher" in an old, scary black-and-white
film released in the 1950s.

Robert Mitchum. 1954. Night of the Hunter from the novel by Davis Grubb.
The author was from up the road in Moundsville. The story is set in
this area.

Hmmmm...that explains a lot about Davie Heil's character...:-)

How so? Neither Robert Mitchum nor the character he played came from
this area. I wasn't in the movie.


That character had L-O-V-E on one
hand, H-A-T-E on the other...liked to off folks that didn't
believe in him.

Believing in him had nothing to do with it. He killed prostitutes and
dancers because he thought they were evil and he killed widows for their
money. The guy wasn't even a real preacher.

I am imagining Davie Heil with C-O-D-E on one hand, T-E-S-T on
the other. :-)

Do yours read "NOCW" and "TEST"?

Running around killing the NCTA because he thinks they were evil.

Sounds VERY familiar! :-)

It might to you, but then again, you got the original story wrong too.
The book's author, Davis Grubb had a hard time with reality. In one
interview, he said that he could remember that whenever an execution
took place at the prison in Moundsville, the lights all over town would
dim. That would have been something since, when Grubb was living in
Moundsville, executions were by hanging. Electrocution wasn't begun
until the 1950's.


Did they ever catch him, or is he still running around the hills of
Moundsville?

Was he a ham preacher?

He is apparently of the undead, this time inhabiting the corpus
of a corpulent K8 ham?

You've really not watched the movie in some time. Another of Grubb's
books was turned into a movie called "Fool's Parade" with James Stewart,
George Kennedy and Kurt Russell. It was shot on location in Moundsville
and Marshall County in 1970. You'd have been a natural "Fool's Parade"
extra.

"Corp diem?"

"Corpus"

Don't you get anything right?

Dave K8MN

From: Dave Heil on Dec 18, 8:51 am

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From: on Dec 14, 6:22 pm
Dave Heil wrote:
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From: on Tues, Dec 13 2005 4:32 pm


Jim has tatoos?

I was imagining his performances in here to be the equivalent of
James Mitchum's creepy "preacher" in an old, scary black-and-white
film released in the 1950s.

Robert Mitchum. 1954. Night of the Hunter from the novel by Davis Grubb.
The author was from up the road in Moundsville. The story is set in
this area.

Hmmmm...that explains a lot about Davie Heil's character...:-)

How so? Neither Robert Mitchum nor the character he played came from
this area. I wasn't in the movie.

Tsk, the way you ACT in here wouldn't get you to the
"beginners" entry line to either SAG or SEG. :-)

You couldn't even pass for an A-1 Sauce dish at the caterer's
table on a set, let alone as an "A-1 Op" in the movies. :-)

It might to you, but then again, you got the original story wrong too.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, if you want to do rec.movies.critique.negative
go to the appropriate newsgroup.

The book's author, Davis Grubb had a hard time with reality.

PCTAs have a hard time with reality also... :-)

In one
interview, he said that he could remember that whenever an execution
took place at the prison in Moundsville, the lights all over town would
dim.

No doubt the electricity was wired in by an "A-1 Operator."

That would have been something since, when Grubb was living in
Moundsville, executions were by hanging. Electrocution wasn't begun
until the 1950's.

Difficulty in carrying out Ohm's Law? :-)

Slow going through the CIRCUIT Court of Appeals? :-)


Did they ever catch him, or is he still running around the hills of
Moundsville?

Was he a ham preacher?

He is apparently of the undead, this time inhabiting the corpus
of a corpulent K8 ham?

You've really not watched the movie in some time.

Tsk, I just asked a question.

True, I don't make it a habit to watch creepy black-and-white
movies about deranged characters.

It is much easier to access RRAP and watch all the creepy
black-and-white PCTAs pontificate, postulate, and pustulate
all over everyone else. PCTAs are as deranged as could be.

Another of Grubb's
books was turned into a movie called "Fool's Parade" with James Stewart,
George Kennedy and Kurt Russell.

No doubt you have a well-thumbed Leonard Maltin movie guidebook
from which to draw your wealth of old motion picture factoids.

Somehow that doesn't qualify you as an "A-1 Op" in a cinema.

It was shot on location in Moundsville and Marshall County in 1970.

Did that factoid make it into Variety or Hollywood Reporter? :-)

Was it in QST?

You'd have been a natural "Fool's Parade" extra.

No. I don't have a SEG membership. Wanna see my AFTRA card?

"Corp diem?"

"Corpus"

Tsk, tsk, a blank-and-white literalist. Colorless.

I was making a Play on Words between Latin and English. Since
you only claim expertise on Hunnish, you couldn't understand it.

You didn't understand the Latin oxymoron "primus inter pares"
so it is useless to get you to unbend your dictatorial
Prussian persistence in puling orders.


Don't you get anything right?

I'm not an unbending blank-and-white ultra-conservative
RIGHTIST. Reality requires recognizing shades of gray and
being liberal towards others. You fail there.

Corporations have paid me real money to "get things right" and
I have, consistently. Since you see things only by your
dictatorial blank-and-white Prussian puerility, there is no
point in trying to discuss any matter with you.

I'm sure you would give both Ebert and Roeper a "thumbs down"
when it comes to movie reviews. However, THAT doesn't make
you an "A-1 Op." Doesn't even make you good for A-1 Sauce.

...and a "Bone apetit" to Kathy Reichs and Tempe Brennan.

bit bit

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From: Dave Heil on Dec 18, 8:51 am

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From: on Dec 14, 6:22 pm
Dave Heil wrote:
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From: on Tues, Dec 13 2005 4:32 pm


Jim has tatoos?
I was imagining his performances in here to be the equivalent of
James Mitchum's creepy "preacher" in an old, scary black-and-white
film released in the 1950s.

Robert Mitchum. 1954. Night of the Hunter from the novel by Davis Grubb.
The author was from up the road in Moundsville. The story is set in
this area.

Hmmmm...that explains a lot about Davie Heil's character...:-)

How so? Neither Robert Mitchum nor the character he played came from
this area. I wasn't in the movie.

Tsk, the way you ACT in here wouldn't get you to the
"beginners" entry line to either SAG or SEG. :-)

So? When have I aspired to appear in movies? What are you going on
about, Leonard?

You couldn't even pass for an A-1 Sauce dish at the caterer's
table on a set, let alone as an "A-1 Op" in the movies. :-)

Dish? I've only seen the sauce in bottles. Have there been significant
A-1 Op movie parts in the past?

It might to you, but then again, you got the original story wrong too.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, if you want to do rec.movies.critique.negative
go to the appropriate newsgroup.

How about this instead: If you bring something up, make sure it is
something you know about rather than foisting off your factual errors as
fact.

The book's author, Davis Grubb had a hard time with reality.

PCTAs have a hard time with reality also... :-)

I'm certain that it appears that way to you.

In one
interview, he said that he could remember that whenever an execution
took place at the prison in Moundsville, the lights all over town would
dim.

No doubt the electricity was wired in by an "A-1 Operator."

Operators wire for electricity? That doesn't make sense. The point was
that they weren't using electricity.

That would have been something since, when Grubb was living in
Moundsville, executions were by hanging. Electrocution wasn't begun
until the 1950's.

Difficulty in carrying out Ohm's Law? :-)

No, trouble adjusting their shorts. :-) :-)

Slow going through the CIRCUIT Court of Appeals? :-)

Not really, if the judge said a guy was hung, he really was hung. :-) :-)

Did they ever catch him, or is he still running around the hills of
Moundsville?

Was he a ham preacher?

He is apparently of the undead, this time inhabiting the corpus
of a corpulent K8 ham?

You've really not watched the movie in some time.

Tsk, I just asked a question.

No, actually you didn't.

True, I don't make it a habit to watch creepy black-and-white
movies about deranged characters.

One misses a lot of good movies that way.

It is much easier to access RRAP and watch all the creepy
black-and-white PCTAs pontificate, postulate, and pustulate
all over everyone else. PCTAs are as deranged as could be.

Judging from your paragraph above, you're watching your very own movie.

Another of Grubb's
books was turned into a movie called "Fool's Parade" with James Stewart,
George Kennedy and Kurt Russell.

No doubt you have a well-thumbed Leonard Maltin movie guidebook
from which to draw your wealth of old motion picture factoids.

No, I was actually here on leave while in the Air Force. I saw portions
of the film shot and took some great photos of the cast, in and out of
character.

I have the film and also have "Night of the Hunter" along with those
books and several more by Grubb.

Somehow that doesn't qualify you as an "A-1 Op" in a cinema.

I don't operate a cinema.

It was shot on location in Moundsville and Marshall County in 1970.

Did that factoid make it into Variety or Hollywood Reporter? :-)

I'm sure that it did.

Was it in QST?

Why should it have been.

You'd have been a natural "Fool's Parade" extra.

No. I don't have a SEG membership. Wanna see my AFTRA card?

Not particularly.

"Corp diem?"

"Corpus"

Tsk, tsk, a blank-and-white literalist. Colorless.

I was making a Play on Words between Latin and English. Since
you only claim expertise on Hunnish, you couldn't understand it.

I understood your attempt. You used the wrong word. The word I
provided would have fit perfectly with your use of "corpulent". The
term you used didn't fit at all. If it was worth doing, it was worth
doing right.

You didn't understand the Latin oxymoron "primus inter pares"...

I didn't? When did you use it? I studied Latin for only two years and
would likely find that phrase entirely too difficult.

(You aren't my equal though)


...so it is useless to get you to unbend your dictatorial
Prussian persistence in puling orders.

What's a puling order?


Don't you get anything right?

I'm not an unbending blank-and-white ultra-conservative
RIGHTIST.

No, you aren't a rightist and you aren't the rightest. In fact, you're
pretty unbending about the regs in amateur radio, in which you are not
even a participant.

Reality requires recognizing shades of gray and
being liberal towards others. You fail there.

Your current views as regards amateur radio exhibit no shades of gray
whatever. Go figure!

Corporations have paid me real money to "get things right" and
I have, consistently.

At least that's your story and you're sticking to it. You're the only
guy who has ever been 1) paid real money by a corporation 2) to get
things right. Okie-doke, Len.

Since you see things only by your
dictatorial blank-and-white Prussian puerility, there is no
point in trying to discuss any matter with you.

....and yet you persist.

I'm sure you would give both Ebert and Roeper a "thumbs down"
when it comes to movie reviews.

I don't go to much by what movie reviewers write. If I like it, that's
what counts to me. Reviewers may praise a film to the stars, but if I
see it and think it was a waste of my money, it's a clinker.

However, THAT doesn't make
you an "A-1 Op."

No, being a good amateur radio op can make you an A-1 Op.

Doesn't even make you good for A-1 Sauce.

In a dish?

Dave K8MN

From: Dave Heil on Dec 18, 5:46 pm

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From: Dave Heil on Dec 18, 8:51 am
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From: on Dec 14, 6:22 pm
Dave Heil wrote:
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Tsk, tsk, tsk, if you want to do rec.movies.critique.negative
go to the appropriate newsgroup.

How about this instead: If you bring something up, make sure it is
something you know about rather than foisting off your factual errors as
fact.

Oh, oh, the Dominatrix is extending her whip, demanding Order
and Obediance! :-)

Here's some "facts" written by others in he

"FCC doesn't license radio amateurs."

"MARS IS ham radio."


The book's author, Davis Grubb had a hard time with reality.

PCTAs have a hard time with reality also... :-)

I'm certain that it appears that way to you.

It appears that way to many, many readers of this morseblog.

This newsgroup is NOT a movieblog or a literaryblog.



In one
interview, he said that he could remember that whenever an execution
took place at the prison in Moundsville, the lights all over town would
dim.

No doubt the electricity was wired in by an "A-1 Operator."

Operators wire for electricity? That doesn't make sense. The point was
that they weren't using electricity.

UNBEND, Davie. :-) You are too wound up and literal. :-)


Tsk, I just asked a question.

No, actually you didn't.

A question mark punctuation sign doesn't denote a question? :-)



No, I was actually here on leave while in the Air Force. I saw portions
of the film shot and took some great photos of the cast, in and out of
character.

I have the film and also have "Night of the Hunter" along with those
books and several more by Grubb.

"Night of the Hunter" was released in 1955. That means that
actual filming was done in 1954. You were IN the USAF in
1954? That doesn't fit with what you've said before in here.


It was shot on location in Moundsville and Marshall County in 1970.

Is that the movie you are referring to? You aren't being clear
in your remarks on film production.

Of course, this morseblog isn't ABOUT motion picture production,
is it? :-)


...so it is useless to get you to unbend your dictatorial
Prussian persistence in puling orders.

What's a puling order?

Pule: vi "To whimper or whine, as a sick or fretful child does."
also "puled, puling"

Don't you get anything right? :-)


Your current views as regards amateur radio exhibit no shades of gray
whatever.

That may be because so many amateur radio "practitioners" are
into unreal draconian regulations that allow few options.

Go figure!

I have. That's why I oppose the regulation of requiring
a singular mode test for radio amateurs when the regulating
agency makes that mode as optional to use as any other
allocated mode. :-)


Corporations have paid me real money to "get things right" and
I have, consistently.

At least that's your story and you're sticking to it.

It's not a "story" and it is factual. You are welcome to
research my background, all references in work done, even
challenge the IRS, Franchise Tax Board of California, FBI,
CIA, DIA, DCAS, DoE, IEEE, RCA, EOS, MRI, all my employers.
:-)

You're the only
guy who has ever been 1) paid real money by a corporation 2) to get
things right.

INCORRECT. I'm not the "ONLY" one. :-)




I don't go to much by what movie reviewers write.

This newsgroup is a morseblog, not a movieblog.

Don't you get anything right? :-)

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Is that why the FCC gives ALL power priveleges to their ENTRY LEVEL
LICENSEES?


Entry level licensees do NOT have all power privileges. Technicians with
code are an entry level license. On HF frequencies, they are limited to 200
watts output.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Is that why the FCC gives ALL power priveleges to their ENTRY LEVEL
LICENSEES?


Entry level licensees do NOT have all power privileges. Technicians with
code are an entry level license. On HF frequencies, they are limited to 200
watts output.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

And 200 watts on VHF/UHF???

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Is that why the FCC gives ALL power priveleges to their ENTRY LEVEL
LICENSEES?


Entry level licensees do NOT have all power privileges. Technicians with
code are an entry level license. On HF frequencies, they are limited to 200
watts output.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

And 200 watts on VHF/UHF???

Hello, Dee?

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Is that why the FCC gives ALL power priveleges to their ENTRY LEVEL
LICENSEES?


Entry level licensees do NOT have all power privileges. Technicians
with
code are an entry level license. On HF frequencies, they are limited
to 200
watts output.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

And 200 watts on VHF/UHF???

Hello, Dee?


I plainly stated that on HF they are limited to 200 watts. I did not say
nor imply that VHF/UHF was the same. Since anyone can read my paragraph and
compare it to your remark about VHF/UHF for themselves and see the
difference, there was no need for me to comment further.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE