Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
It should come as no surprise that Len Anderson's eight pages of
pontificating, self-important reply to the comments of Robert G.
Rightsell read almost exactly like his frequent pontificating,
self-important rants in r.r.a.p.

It should come as no suprise that Dave/K8MN has just posted his longest
post ever not providing the details or tips for aspiring DXers, but in
rediculing someone who has had an -almost- lifelong interest in radio.

"Rediculing"? You've spent so much time conversing with Mark that
you're starting to write like him.

Dave is trying to insult me.

I'll have to admit, Brain...

Dave could NEVER insult you half as well as you insult yourself...

But you're a proven liar, so what am I to believe?

If I'd wanted to post an
instructional message on DXing, I'd likely post it to the DX newsgroup.

Do you need directions?

Do you know of one? It certainly doesn't seem so from what we've
seen posted here from you in the past, Brain.

I do just fine.

In my comments to the Commission, I did not find it necessary to target
a single individual or group, nor did I use terms like "puffery",
"egregious" or "insulting".

Perhaps you have no passion for the subject matter.

So...

If Lennie doesn't insult and demean the other commentor, he's not
"passion(ate)" about what he's commenting on?

Perhaps you should ask Len?

He had to write seven attack "replies" to the FCC on this docket
alone?

Hmmmm? Seven attacks? Rings a bell.

Your organ grinder pal

Organ grinder pal?

Are you trying to insult someone? In your comments on RRAP, why do you
find it necessary to target single individuals and groups?

If it's not a single person or a group, what is it?

And Brain...

You ARE Lennie's red-hatted monkey.

And you're a proven liar, so what am I to believe?

hasn't yet taken the
first baby step toward obtaining an amateur radio license in all these
many years. He hasn't gotten into amateur radio. He isn't in amateur
radio. He will not be in amateur radio, no matter what he writes here.

I guess Len is relegated to a life of professional radio.

No...he COULD have had a life in "professional radio".

Very little of any of Lennie's CV deals with "radio".

"A" NCOIC of Okinawa MARS. State Militia comms officer. CAP comms
officer. Hi!

Carry on, little red-hatted monkey.

More insults? Way to go, Dave. Pillar of the radio community. Good
DX!

Lame redirect, Brain. Ineffective, transparent.

Steve, K4YZ

"Your Honor, I STRENUOUSLY Object!"

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
It should come as no surprise that Len Anderson's eight pages of
pontificating, self-important reply to the comments of Robert G.
Rightsell read almost exactly like his frequent pontificating,
self-important rants in r.r.a.p.
It should come as no suprise that Dave/K8MN has just posted his longest
post ever not providing the details or tips for aspiring DXers, but in
rediculing someone who has had an -almost- lifelong interest in radio.
"Rediculing"? You've spent so much time conversing with Mark that
you're starting to write like him.

Dave is trying to insult me.

Yep, I'm responding in kind to your usual red-hatted monkey routine.

No. You're responding in your usual smug way.

If I'd wanted to post an
instructional message on DXing, I'd likely post it to the DX newsgroup.

Do you need directions?

"Redicule"?

D-I-R-E-C-T-I-O-N-S. Do you need some?

In my comments to the Commission, I did not find it necessary to target
a single individual or group, nor did I use terms like "puffery",
"egregious" or "insulting".

Perhaps you have no passion for the subject matter.

Perhaps Windy just got his feathers ruffled in comments on an endeavor
in which he is not a participant.

He is participating in the comments and the replies. At the
Government's invitation.

Your organ grinder pal

Organ grinder pal?

Yep, as Hans Brakob has pointed out on a number of occasions, Len is the
organ grinder; you are the red-hatted monkey.

Hans the Dump Huck caller?

Are you trying to insult someone?

Are you insulted that I've pointed out the obvious?

Do you still require D-I-R-E-C-T-I-O-N-S?

In your comments on RRAP, why do you
find it necessary to target single individuals and groups?

I don't just target single individuals, Brian. Married folks are fair game.

I notice that you're taken with Mark's wife.

...hasn't yet taken the
first baby step toward obtaining an amateur radio license in all these
many years. He hasn't gotten into amateur radio. He isn't in amateur
radio. He will not be in amateur radio, no matter what he writes here.

I guess Len is relegated to a life of professional radio.

Len is relegated to his retirement from professional radio and to no
connection with amateur radio.

You never know when one will come out of retirement.

Carry on, little red-hatted monkey.

More insults? Way to go, Dave. Pillar of the radio community. Good
DX!

Examine your comments to my post and get back to me.

Dave K8MN

Not interested in your smug attitude and insulting behavio[u]r. But
thanks.

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

(Best observed using non-porportional font)

HyperLog extract station K0HB

Date ¦Time¦Call ¦rcv¦snt¦Bnd¦QRG ¦Emm¦PWR ¦Name ¦QTH
11/19/00¦0052¦K4YZ ¦59 ¦59 ¦20 ¦14.191¦A3J¦100 ¦Steve ¦Dunlap, TN ¦
11/05/00¦0111¦K4YZ ¦599¦599¦20 ¦14.032¦A1A¦100 ¦Steve ¦Dunlap, TN ¦

July 2001 issue of QST reports that K4YZ earned a "Clean Sweep" trophy for
working at least one station in each of the 80 ARRL and RAC sections during the
phone Sweepstakes contest the previous November. PDF available for viewing on
the web at http://www.arrl.org/contests/results...one-sweeps.pdf

Sunuvagun!

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Wed 16 Nov 2005 20:30
wrote:
From: on Nov 16, 2:20 am
Dave Heil wrote:

In my comments to the Commission, I did not find it necessary to target
a single individual or group, nor did I use terms like "puffery",
"egregious" or "insulting".

Poor baby. Does Davie think that all against the code test
are equivalent to "two-year-olds refusing peas at dinner"
as Robert Rightsell did?

And once again Lennie digs in with personal attacks...Yet INSISTS
that he doesn't do such things...

I don't.

Sure you do! Did it several times in the current docket alone.
What was it...FOURTEEN in the last...?!?!

SNIP

I'm "just asking questions," Jimmie.

Me too.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Dudly the Imposter is in no position to "ask."

Who's Dudly the Imposter?

The rest of us readers have been waiting impatiently for the
PROOF of Dudly's claims. Those haven't appeared. Not for
seven years. All we have are PERSONAL INSULTS as "responses"
such as the one following:

That you refuse to follow up on references is YOUR "problem",
Lennie...Not mine.

Why don't you treat yourself to a REAL mental health
provider...?!?! Not that correspondence school nitwit you married.

Sad to see Dudly the Imposter beginning to slide off the
edge of reality into the terribly abyss of insanity.

Nope.

Dudly tries to insult my wife, a holder of three degrees
obtained at Beloit College, Beloit WI, University of Illinois
at Champaign-Urbana, University of Wisconsin at Madison,
Madison, WI. That's a BA, two MSs, residence studies not
through "correspondence schools." She was licensed in both
Illinois (working for the state) and Washington (private
practice) as a Social Services Counselor (supervisor while
in Illinois). I've explained that all before, but Dud
keeps on with his personal insults against family of anyone
he considers an "enemy."

But not a BIT of it pertains to YOU or AMATEUR RADIO.

Yet you'd like us to consider your wife's alleged accomplishments
as somehow being germane to the ongoing proceedings and part of YOUR
"accomplishments".

I compliment you on "marrying up", but "up" to what? I can't
imagne a woman of character or breeding of any significance marrying
the likes of you. Not willingly or soberly, anyway....

As to "nitwit," I don't remember my wife's IQ rating back
in high school days (our Class of 1951 was given a two-
week long battery of tests by U of I as part of a state-
wide study) but it was quite high.

Obviously not high enough. She married you.

While my wife HAS worked with mentally-deranged persons...(SNIP)

I think you meant "...has lived with A mentally-deranged
PERSON [singular].

(UNSNIP)....I need NO extra
information from her to recognize abberant behavior such
as Dudly the Imposter has done in here. Such irrational
behavior is easily spotted after being an observant adult
for a long period of time.

Again, obvioulsy not.

She can't see, or can't control, the deceitful
obsessive-compulsive right under her nose, which either makes her
blind, incompetent, or suffering the Alzheimer's you accuse others of
suffering.

So which is it?

Big SNIP

This thread started out concerning NPRM 05-143 and WT Docket
05-235.

No...THIS thread started out recognizing your verbose, vile and
windy pontifications in your "Reply to Reply Comments".

Those are policy issues that have recently been
before the U.S. amateur community. I think it should stay
that way and NOT plunge into the irrational chasm of Dudly
at war with his enemies. He can never win that war.

I've already won.



Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

"Rediculing"? You've spent so much time conversing with Mark that
you're starting to write like him.

Dave is trying to insult me.

I'll have to admit, Brain...

Dave could NEVER insult you half as well as you insult yourself...

But you're a proven liar, so what am I to believe?

You can't believe yourself...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

(Best observed using non-porportional font)

HyperLog extract station K0HB

Date ¦Time¦Call ¦rcv¦snt¦Bnd¦QRG ¦Emm¦PWR ¦Name ¦QTH
11/19/00¦0052¦K4YZ ¦59 ¦59 ¦20 ¦14.191¦A3J¦100 ¦Steve ¦Dunlap, TN ¦
11/05/00¦0111¦K4YZ ¦599¦599¦20 ¦14.032¦A1A¦100 ¦Steve ¦Dunlap, TN ¦

July 2001 issue of QST reports that K4YZ earned a "Clean Sweep" trophy for
working at least one station in each of the 80 ARRL and RAC sections during the
phone Sweepstakes contest the previous November. PDF available for viewing on
the web at http://www.arrl.org/contests/results...one-sweeps.pdf

Sunuvagun!

Twice in one day...thanks again, Hans. I actually worked TWO
Clean Sweeps that year...Phone and CW. K0HB was the one and only MN
contact for the CW sweep, and one of two in the phone.

But it only puts another LennieRant into the "Not Truthful"
column...I've linked my DXCC award a couple of times in respose to
similar rants. That was in 2000.

Seems they convieniently "forget" as the need arises.

73 es Tnx Again.....

Steve, K4YZ

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
In my comments to the Commission, I did not find it necessary to target
a single individual or group, nor did I use terms like "puffery",
"egregious" or "insulting".

That's just typical Len behavior, Dave. Check the reply comments about
ARRL, and the one about Extra Class licenses, etc.

Len can't seem to differentiate between the type of stuff he writes here
and a document he submits to the FCC.

I disagree! The difference is quite clear.

Here, Len uses emoticons and SHOUTS by using all capitals. His
submissions to FCC are full of italics, bold text, and numbered
footnotes.

Other than that, there's not much difference....

What Len fails to understand is that such carryings-on are simply
delaying the R&O.

...and may well have the result of making his comments appear less
credible to the Commission.

I remember Len referring to FCC Chairman Powell as "Mikey". As if he'd
actually address Mr. Powell that way....

Your organ grinder pal hasn't yet taken the
first baby step toward obtaining an amateur radio license in all these
many years.

Actually that's not quite true, Dave.

Some months back, Len mentioned here that he had once, way back
in the 1950s,

actually, the early 1960s

set about learning Morse Code. Claimed he'd actually
gotten up to about 6-8 wpm or so before deciding all the 'hard work'
wasn't worth it. That was just about the time 27 MHz cb came along,
and he jumped on that.

Other way around - he was on cb first.

In his own words, he just "GAVE UP".

Your point may be valid but I learned the Morse Code in the Scouts,
before I had any idea of becoming a ham. The fellow who taught it did
it right. There was no counting of dots and dashes. He linked the
letter sounds to groups of words like "here comes the bride" for "Q".
It wasn't work; it was fun. Brushing up my code a couple of years later
before taking the Novice exam wasn't any work either.

I learned it by listening to hams using Morse Code on 80 meters. I
first had
to build myself a receiver, though.

What I think happened is this: Len discovered that unlike "book
learning",
he didn't pick up on the Morse Code in a few quick lessons. For him it
took some 'hard work' to learn, and that conflicted with his view of
himself
as a 'professional in radio-electronics'. Not only that, but learning
Morse
Code would not help Len 'PROFESSIONALLY' - there was no money
reward waiting. So he gave up.

I agree.

Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to
have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio
license.

He hasn't gotten into amateur radio. He isn't in amateur
radio. He will not be in amateur radio, no matter what he writes here.

Which would lead any logical person to wonder why he's so interested
in amateur radio regulations. He won't say *why* all this matters so
much to him.

He bears a long time grudge?

Sure seems that way.

After all, it's been possible to get a Technician class license without
a code test for more than 14 years. All FCC-issued amateur licenses
have been available for just a 5 wpm code test for 15 years now.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

What I think happened is this: Len discovered that unlike "book
learning",
he didn't pick up on the Morse Code in a few quick lessons. For him it
took some 'hard work' to learn, and that conflicted with his view of
himself
as a 'professional in radio-electronics'. Not only that, but learning
Morse
Code would not help Len 'PROFESSIONALLY' - there was no money
reward waiting. So he gave up.

I agree.

Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to
have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio
license.

I still believe that Lennie had some "run-in" with an Amateur at
some point. No doubt Lennie tried to bluff the other Amatuer into
"signing off" on a Conditional or other such thing since he already
professed to "know it all".

His one and only attempt to get a license by deceit rebuffed, he's
set upon a mission to undermine Amateur Radio at any and all
opportunities. To hell with the mere mortals, HE was a PROFESSIONAL!

Steve, K4YZ

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

From: on Nov 17, 4:31 pm


wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Wed 16 Nov 2005 20:30

Poor redirect. Strong on "victimization" twist.

Dudly been watching Law shows, trying to pick up their lingo?

Are we now going to be treated to "judge" Dudly and ANOTHER
fictitious "career?" :-)

Guessing game. Match the Quote with the author.

"Your Honor, I STRENUOUSLY Object!"

"I stand on the wall...."

"I served in other, unmentionable ways..."

Choices: Steve, Steve, and Jim.

HAHAHAHAH...answers are in the same order. That's a no-brainer.

Meanwhile, Dudly is busy, busy kissing Hans' ass for that
navel regulation of 2005. Dudly doesn't realize that the
effective-date regulation is only for NOW, not 13 to 31
years past.

Jimmie Noserve no comment on this. Jimmie pays ALL of his
own clothes out of his allowance. He still has his baby
shoes and those are busy, busy stepping right along.

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

wrote:

Meanwhile, Dudly is busy, busy kissing Hans' ass for that
navel regulation of 2005. Dudly doesn't realize that the
effective-date regulation is only for NOW, not 13 to 31
years past.

It doesn't matter when the CURRENT regulation was updated.

A quick review of the order suffix indicates it's a much-ammended
order.

A five minute phone call could verify my original statements.

Unfortunately you are incapable of that simple task.

Or unwilling...In short, a COWARD.

Steve, K4YZ

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

(Best observed using non-porportional font)

HyperLog extract station K0HB

Date ¦Time¦Call ¦rcv¦snt¦Bnd¦QRG ¦Emm¦PWR ¦Name ¦QTH
11/19/00¦0052¦K4YZ ¦59 ¦59 ¦20 ¦14.191¦A3J¦100 ¦Steve ¦Dunlap, TN ¦
11/05/00¦0111¦K4YZ ¦599¦599¦20 ¦14.032¦A1A¦100 ¦Steve ¦Dunlap, TN ¦

July 2001 issue of QST reports that K4YZ earned a "Clean Sweep" trophy for
working at least one station in each of the 80 ARRL and RAC sections during the
phone Sweepstakes contest the previous November. PDF available for viewing on
the web at http://www.arrl.org/contests/results...one-sweeps.pdf

Sunuvagun!

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:

K4YZ 11/19/2000 1601Z 14 MHz SSB NR 87A CK 72


Dave K8MN

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

HyperLog extract station K0HB

(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:

(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

73

Steve, K4YZ

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

HyperLog extract station K0HB

(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:

(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).

73 de Jim, N2EY

Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments
 

wrote:
From: on Thurs 17 Nov 2005 02:45

wrote:
From: on Nov 16, 2:20 am
Dave Heil wrote:

What Len fails to understand is that such carryings-on are simply
delaying The R&O.

But you hadn't taken even the first baby step to getting an amateur
radio license.

WHY was that required?

It's not required.

You haven't explained the "necessity"
of gettng an amateur license FIRST.

Because there is none, Len.

The point is that this newsgroup is about amateur radio. And
the NPRM is about amateur radio and the Morse Code test
to get an amateur radio license.

A license you've never been able to earn.

you really DON'T understand the environment I was
working in/at.

Actually, I do, Len. That environment wasn't amateur radio.
It was military radip, back when *one* new teleprinter cost more
than most amateur radio stations of the time.

Go download:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

Seen it. What's your point? Amateur radio isn't the Army.

...in order to see that environment. NONE of it required any
"baby steps" going FIRST through some hobby license.

Nobody said it did, Len. You were trained at taxpayer expense,
and worked as part of a large supervised team that took care
of that facility.

Actually two errors. Got the date wrong and the sequence with cb.

With all those ERRORS you make, you are getting a reputation
for irrationality and unreliability...

Two errors, Len, and quickly corrected.

What I think happened is this: Len discovered that unlike "book learning",
he didn't pick up on the Morse Code in a few quick lessons.

Looks like that part's true.

starting to look as hateful
as Dudly, always seeking to impugn my "motivations" (that you
think up in your fantasy).

No fantasy involved, just a reading of what you wrote about it. You
simply "GAVE UP".

Heck, you wouldn't even spend the time or money to get/build a suitable
radio receiver and listen to real live Morse Code on the air back
then. Just some tapes copied from records...

There was NO INTELLECTUAL REWARD "waiting," sweetums.

Sure there was - the amateur radio license and all that you could
do with it. Wasn't worth your time? Fine!

So...I already had plenty of REAL experience in PROFESSIONAL
HF radio communications, a First 'Phone (Commercial), and
those were "NOT intellectual?!?"

Nobody said that.

Sounds like what you're saying is that you think your commercial
license
and experience as a military radio technician (not radio operator)
should
somehow give you a magic golden ticket to an amateur radio license. No
way the mighty Anderson should be required to actually *learn*
something
for an *amateur* license...right?

There was NO
INTELLECTUAL reward in it.

Then what's your problem?

YOUR irrationality.

Much ado about nothing, then.

In other words, if it didn't make money for you, it wasn't going to
get your time and effort.

You really can't understand anyone who doesn't have YOUR
immaculate set of "standards" can you?

I understand your "standards" very well, Len. To you, an amateur
radio license wasn't - and still isn't - worth the effort it would
take
for you to learn enough to pass the required tests. Right?

I have no problem with those "standards" at all.

Do you always have to be on the cutting edge, Len? Do you have a
cutting-edge computer?

Close enough.

In other words, no, you don't have a cutting-edge computer.

In 1962 I was 8 years old

5 years later, in 1967, I was a licensed amateur radio operator at age
13. You were not.

I got the Second Phone at age 18, in 1972. Didn't need a First Phone.

You don't tell us why *you* are so interested in something you are
not a part of and most probably never will be.

YOU, still in your baby shoes, aren't worthy of an answer
to your demands for "motivation."

Awwww..."not worthy"?

Are you ashamed of your motivations, Len? Or have I
already stated them, and you're angry that I understand
so much?

When given, you won't
accept any reasonable explanation.

Your explanations aren't complete.

Let's see...I am retired from a successful career (from regular
hours, I still do contract work IF I want to) in electronics
design engineering, have a fine house (all paid for), have a
wonderful wife (who was also my high school sweetheart), have
had enough TITLES and POSITIONS to satisfy me, half century,
a comfortable income to handle easy living now.

You've told us how great things are for you many, many times, Len.
As if all that somehow explains your obsession.

"Obsession?!?" :-)

Yes, Len. You're clearly obsessed with something that doesn't affect
you.

Trying to change federal law is an "obsession?"

Nope. The way you behave in doing so definitely is. Particularly since
the "law" does not really affect you.

It's as if someone from far away from Sun City tried for years to get
the zoning rules there changed, because they *might* want to build
a house there.

Yes, I can see where baby shoe wearers would get petulant and
whiny if their hobby radio toys and merit badges are
threatened...

I wear a size 12 in most shoes, Len. I prefer Saucony running shoes
most of the time. I ran 35 minutes before dawn today - kinda big steps
out there....

I do NOT NEED TO PROVE ANYTHING by getting more TITLES, more
certificates suitable for framing.

Not about that at all.

YES, it IS,

Nobody's asking you to prove anything, Len. It's just odd that you
are so interested in the rules of a radio service that you are so
completely uninvolved with.

But you mention them and your other accomplishments here, and in
comments to FCC, over and over again.

Yet you have no amateur radio license....

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup, Jimmie, with that "comparison/analogue" you have exhibited
great IRRATIONALITY.

How? Your accomplishments do not give you a golden ticket to an
amateur radio license.

One of the wonderful things about amateur radio is that all must meet
the same requirements for the license, regardless of other radio
experience, licenses, education, age, income, etc. Always been that
way. The grade schooler has to meet the same license requirement
as the graybeard Ph.D. in EE with multiple patents and other licenses.

That simple equality really seems to burn you.

We are secure
in ourselves. We've "done it" and DON'T need to brag, don't
need more pretty certificates suitable for framing.

Then why are you here?

It is part of a greater effort to eliminate morse code testing
from United States amateur radio regulations on license exams.

Has it made *any* difference? Do you really think your words have
convinced anyone?

And why does it matter to you anyway?

How many times must I repeat that before you understand?

It seems to me that what you most enjoy about amateur radio is insulting
and denigrating radio amateurs via the internet.

Sorry, Jimmie, I only "insult" those poor misguided souls
who think that morse code mode communications is still
"cutting-edge technology skill" in radio.

Incorrect. You insult and denigrate anyone who disagrees with you.

Jimmie, WHY do YOU continue to insult, demean, anatagonize all
who see to remove the code test?

Who is this "Jimmie" you keep referring to? Your imaginary friend?

Why are YOU so obsessed with retaining it?

I'm not. I simply think the Morse Code test does more good than harm.
I think it's a good idea, for reasons stated here and in my Comments
to FCC.

Why are YOU so obsessed with regressing U.S. amateur radio?

I'm not - I'm about progress and moving forward.

Who is this "Jimmie" you speak of?

Yourself. Are you uncomfortable with affectionate, friendly
names?

It's neither affectionate nor friendly.

You are NOT custodian of archaic radio
arts. You've NEVER worked in 24/7 long-haul HF radio traffic
services. You've apparently NEVER done any radio activity
outside of HF.

Actually, I have.

PROVE it by third-party references

I've worked W3RV, K3LT, and many others on VHF FM. Ask them.

Hell, you've never had PRIDE in
what you work at at work

Not me. I'm proud of what I do. I just don't repeat it over and over
and over in an amateur radio newsgroup.

Brother of Dudly, since you NEVER explained what you work at
or where you work, both lacking detail, you will NEVER be
accused of "repeating it over and over and over." :-)

You have done so, so you are guilty...

and try to keep your employer a
big, dark secret...you never talk about it except in very
vague descriptions and implications.

Why should I mention it here, Len? Is there *any* employment that would
change the way you behave towards others who disagree with you?

Brother of Dudly, don't try misdirection again. Tiresome.

Answer the question, Len.

We readers will just put you down as either NOT WORKING or
at some place not associated with electronics at all.

Readers know that you'd simply use my employment - whatever it is -
as another insult venue.

You don't talk shop.

Not here. Why should I?

Why are you so antagonistic to CHANGE,

I'm not. You are. As in "changes to real estate zoning"...

AMATEUR radio is a HOBBY, Jimmie.

And much more, Len. You think the amateurs who went to help
out after the recent hurricanes were only "hobbyists" doing it for
"FUN"?

Thousands and thousands of human being helped the victims
of hurricanes Katrina and Rita. NO amateur radio license
was "required" to HELP A FELLOW HUMAN BEING.

Not required, but very helpful.

Cut out the sensationalist pandering to visceral emotion,
Jimmie. It's so phony.

Tell it to the folks at Electronic Design magazine, Len - a
"PROFESSIONAL" publication:

http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/A...164/11164.html

AMATEUR RADIO IS BASICALLY A *HOBBY*. It was never anything
else.

Not just a hobby, though. That seems to really bother you.

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wrote:


WHY was that required? You haven't explained the "necessity"
of gettng an amateur license FIRST.

There is no 'necessity' of getting an amateur license, unless you want
to operate on the ham bands, just like there is no 'necessity' of
getting a driver's license unless you want to drive a car. All of your
bragging about your intellect and knowledge and experience you claim has
squat to do with ham radio. Thousands of people with no prior knowledge
or experience in radio communications, electronics, ect., have studied
and passed the test to obtain a ham license. Something that seems to
completely befuddle you. Yet here you go on and on about all your skills
and knowledge yet you can't seem to get a license, something that many
grade schoolers have achieved.


Jimmie, you really DON'T understand the environment I was
working in/at. Go download:

The environment you worked in has nothing to do with getting a ham license.

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

...in order to see that environment. NONE of it required any
"baby steps" going FIRST through some hobby license.

No 'baby steps'? I supposed you were born with all the knowledge and
skills you needed.

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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
I has to do with
getting a license to operate on ham radio. Something that seems quite
beyond your capabilities.

When are you going to attempt the test, no-call?

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From: "K؈B" on Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:16

wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

(Best observed using non-porportional font)

(best heard with BFO on?)

HyperLog extract station K0HB

Date ?Time?Call ?rcv?snt?Bnd?QRG ?Emm?PWR ?Name ?QTH
11/19/00?0052?K4YZ ?59 ?59 ?20 ?14.191?A3J?100 ?Steve ?Dunlap, TN ?
11/05/00?0111?K4YZ ?599?599?20 ?14.032?A1A?100 ?Steve ?Dunlap, TN ?

July 2001 issue of QST reports that K4YZ earned a "Clean Sweep" trophy for
working at least one station in each of the 80 ARRL and RAC sections during the
phone Sweepstakes contest the previous November. PDF available for viewing on
the web at http://www.arrl.org/contests/results...ne-sweeps..pdf

Sunuvagun!

...and the above "proves" Dudly the Imposter was in the USMC?

Of course it does. If any Extra Morseman says it, then it "must"
be true!

Okay, so someone works an amateur radio contest and that is a
"proof" of his/her military service?

Tsk, the military of the United States has entered a strange,
new world since 1989 where amateur radio contesting is somehow
an "honorable discharge."

What next, the Congressional Medal of Honor awarded to a ham
who relayed the most health and welfare traffic during hurricane
Katrina?

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From: on Thurs 17 Nov 2005 18:36

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Here, Len uses emoticons and SHOUTS by using all capitals. His
submissions to FCC are full of italics, bold text, and numbered
footnotes.

Ah, now Sister Nun of the Above is spanking for using
italics in filings on Dockets at the FCC?

And "numbered footnotes!" Tsk, tsk, what does Jimmie think
those funny superscript numbers in text and all that small
text at the bottoms of some pages, as in NPRM 05-143 are?


I remember Len referring to FCC Chairman Powell as "Mikey". As if he'd
actually address Mr. Powell that way....

No problem with me, Jimmie. I'm not afraid of authority.

You seem to be. Of course, you've never been in politics,
have you? I thought not.

I refer to our current President of the United States as
"W" or "Dubya." Are you going to have me arrested by
Homeland Security? Charged with treason? Go for it.


Some months back, Len mentioned here that he had once, way back
in the 1950s,

actually, the early 1960s

Oh, you finally went back in time through Google archives?

Good for you, Jimmie. If you are real nice, we might buy
you some kiddie shoes to replace those baby shoes you
keep talking about.

set about learning Morse Code. Claimed he'd actually
gotten up to about 6-8 wpm or so before deciding all the 'hard work'
wasn't worth it. That was just about the time 27 MHz cb came along,
and he jumped on that.

Other way around - he was on cb first.

No, no, NO, Jimmie, MUCH lower in frequency than that...somewhere
around 9 MHz if memory serves. Was in early February 1953, using
a BC-339 1 KW transmitter.

In his own words, he just "GAVE UP".

No, no, NO, Jimmie...I stayed there for nearly three years
after that until late January 1956.

Oh, you mean "did I give up" on learning more morse code?
Yes, I did. Roughly six years later in California I gave
up on bothering to continue learning morse code.

Jimmie think that a "crime?" Of course he does. He's a
religious zealot MORSEMAN! A proselyte for the Church of
St. Hiram. Do you also ride bicycles in your town, going
door to door preaching the Morse Way to residents?

Your point may be valid but I learned the Morse Code in the Scouts,
before I had any idea of becoming a ham. The fellow who taught it did
it right. There was no counting of dots and dashes. He linked the
letter sounds to groups of words like "here comes the bride" for "Q".
It wasn't work; it was fun. Brushing up my code a couple of years later
before taking the Novice exam wasn't any work either.

I learned it by listening to hams using Morse Code on 80 meters. I
first had to build myself a receiver, though.

Bully bull bull to Davie for being a Scout. And to Jimmie
Noserve for "building his own receiver!" Such advanced
teen-agers! Did you both get nice, pretty merit badges?


Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to
have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio
license.

Basically, Jimmie boy, you are full of snit.

I don't see any point in learning what was ONCE the only way
to communicate in radio in order to get an AMATEUR license.

Tsk, tsk...you forget (conveniently and whenver possible)
that I'd already operated transmitters (note plural) on HF
many years before. Want to see them? Here's a link:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

You might want to tell the United States ARMY on your demand
that all radio operators must get an amateur radio license
FIRST. Hurry up and tell them, do your "service for the
nation!" That's a good lad. pat on the head


After all, it's been possible to get a Technician class license without
a code test for more than 14 years. All FCC-issued amateur licenses
have been available for just a 5 wpm code test for 15 years now.

Oh, wow, Jimmie made his THIRD MAJOR MISTAKE in one posting!

Jimmie boy, FCC 99-412 ordered all morse code test rates for
radio amateur licenses to be fixed a 5 words-per-minute
beginning in 2000. That was only FIVE years ago. Not "15."

Tsk, you are rapidly getting a reputation for ERRORS and
MISTAKES! Not good. Are you under stress? Have you
gotten laid yet? Work on that...

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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
Steveo wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:

I has to do with
getting a license to operate on ham radio. Something that seems quite
beyond your capabilities.


When are you going to attempt the test, no-call?
\

Just renewed my license, no license boy.

Riiiight.

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4702/commode2ie.jpg

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Steveo wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:

I has to do with
getting a license to operate on ham radio. Something that seems quite
beyond your capabilities.


When are you going to attempt the test, no-call?
\

Just renewed my license, no license boy.

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From: K4YZ on Nov 17, 7:15 pm

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to
have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio
license.

[inaccurate heilian imagination...]


I still believe that Lennie had some "run-in" with an Amateur at
some point. No doubt Lennie tried to bluff the other Amatuer into
"signing off" on a Conditional or other such thing since he already
professed to "know it all".

Poor iggorant little Dudly. Sorry to bust your big balloon,
but, other than doing some code practice in the early 1960s,
I HAVEN'T BOTHERED to get any AMATEUR radio license. :-)

If you wish to make a mountain out of a molehill, you can
get some staffer at Newington to look into my correspondence
with the late Vic Clark, then President of ARRL. That was
in the late 1970s to 1980. That MIGHT be called a "run-in"
but I'd say it was just the ultra-superior, don't bother me
attitude of the League. It concerned a new movement to
eliminate the morse code test for amateur radio. All those
in-power 20 WPM Extras would have none of that!

That movement would grow slowly until the FCC got convinced
(against League wishes) that a no-code-test Technician class
license got created. [see FCC 90-53 copy at www.nocode.org]

"Amateur," not 'Amatuer." :-)

His one and only attempt to get a license by deceit rebuffed, he's
set upon a mission to undermine Amateur Radio at any and all
opportunities. To hell with the mere mortals, HE was a PROFESSIONAL!

Poor baby, mad as hell and can't take it anymore? :-)

You think elimination of the code test is "undermining"
amateur radio? I don't think so. Roughly half the U.S.
amateur radio community doesn't think so (if the 0.6% of
all licensees is a good sampling). Many Amateur Extras
of long experience have accepted complete removal of code
testing according to WT Docket 05-235 comments.

"Professional?" Of course. I expect to get paid for my
work. If that is some "ethical crime" then ALL the unions
and guilds and trade organizations are "guilty!" :-)

I've been a professional (getting paid for services done)
since 1948...and that is on record at the IRS. "I EARNED
my money the old-fashioned way...I WORKED for it!"]

"Deceit?" Not with/to the government of the United States.
Nope. Not even to the IRS. Been audited twice, no
problems, just misunderstanding situations...one on my
part, other on the IRS' part, both on professional
deductions. That was settled amicably and all satisfied.

Have I "deceived" any VE or any FCC Field Office? NO.
I kept my First Phone renewed, a simple mail-in process,
until and past the R&O changed all Commercial Radio-
telephone operator licenses to the single General Radio-
telephone Operator License (GROL). I applied for, and
got, a Private Land Mobile Radio Service license for
business purposes (a small partnership) and provided all
the correct follow-on documentation for that until the
business was dissolved (more paperwork). I applied for and
got a CB radio license back when licenses were required,
kept those renewed until another R&O removed any need for
licensing. I did not need a Restricted 3rd Class Radio-
telephone license (no test for those) to operate any
commercial radio transmitters since my 1st Phone covered
those, both for business purposes and as a student pilot
back in the early 1960s. When I've operated commercial
equipment, as once for RCA Corporation using borrowed
NBC UHF radios, the appropriate signatures of officials
were duly recorded on my current First Phone license.
When I did some part-time work in AM and FM broadcasting,
the back of the current First Phone was duly recorded
by the Chief Engineer.

I have NEVER taken any amateur radio license test with
any FCC Field Office or VEC organization...nor have I
tried to "deceive" anything in saying my experience is a
substitute for testing. I am simply advocating an end
to morse code testing for an amateur radio license
examination. That YOU don't like that is not of my
concern. That YOU lie and attempt to accuse me of
lying IS of my concern. I try to put an end to it by
showing your lies but all you do is generate more lies
of your own.

Have I taken ANY amateur radio license tests? Only
the "practice variety," such as the practice test on
www.qrz.com and a private, but widely circulated test
set. Did I pass them? YES. Each element, each time.
Were those "aced?" No. Scores were not exceptional
but they were above the minimum level needed to pass.
Questions on regulations were a weakness. Where the
wrong answers were pointed out, I went back to the
regulations to get them right in my mind. Have I
resumed any "code practice?" No. I have three
computer programs on that in my PC archives but have
only used them long enough to see that they run.

Do I need any fancy title to enhance my "braq
quotionent?" No. I am secure in what I can do and
what I can't do, have had a long time of operating
radio transmitters legally (half century) on the EM
spectrum from LF on through to 25 GHz. Amateur
licensees can't go where I've been in the EM spectrum
without holding a Commercial radio license or knowing
the applicable regulations for that service where
such transmission is permitted (such as private boat
radios) without any license.

Is a federally-supervised or VEC-supervised or
COLEM-supervised morse code test "necessary" to
"round out my experience." No. I do not consider
morse code telegraphy to be useful for anything but
hobby radio. I do not have the fantasies of
greatness in radio through morsemanship, therefore
the morsemanship is of no use to me in any way.
Let those who enjoy the mode enjoy it...and NOT
force newcomers to ANY radio service to learn it
because of federal regulations requiring it.

If YOUR fantasy of greatness is disturbed by the
thoughts expressed above, that is YOUR problem to
deal with, not mine. If you need your TS card
punched, go to your minister, rabbi, chaplain, or
witch doctor and have THEM punch it.

Fork yourself, Dudly. You're done.

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wrote:
From: K4YZ on Nov 17, 7:15 pm

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to
have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio
license.

[inaccurate heilian imagination...]

Inaccurate is quite right. I didn't right the paragraph above your
one-liner, Windy.


I still believe that Lennie had some "run-in" with an Amateur at
some point. No doubt Lennie tried to bluff the other Amatuer into
"signing off" on a Conditional or other such thing since he already
professed to "know it all".

Poor iggorant little Dudly. Sorry to bust your big balloon,
but, other than doing some code practice in the early 1960s,
I HAVEN'T BOTHERED to get any AMATEUR radio license. :-)

There you go. You can't be bothered. So what's with the amateur radio
fetish, Len? Were you beaten with a Lightning Bug as a child?

If you wish to make a mountain out of a molehill, you can
get some staffer at Newington to look into my correspondence
with the late Vic Clark, then President of ARRL.

I'm sure it is all neatly archived. They just need to grab the "Leonard
H. Anderson" accordian folder.

That was
in the late 1970s to 1980. That MIGHT be called a "run-in"
but I'd say it was just the ultra-superior, don't bother me
attitude of the League.

....or they might have put your correspondence in the bug file.

It concerned a new movement to
eliminate the morse code test for amateur radio. All those
in-power 20 WPM Extras would have none of that!

So your ideas were dismissed and you've never gotten over it. I knew
Vic Clark. He was a fine person.

That movement would grow slowly until the FCC got convinced
(against League wishes) that a no-code-test Technician class
license got created. [see FCC 90-53 copy at www.nocode.org]

It isn't exactly a civil rights movement, is it, Len? Did you guys
stage a big march on Newington?

"Amateur," not 'Amatuer." :-)

His one and only attempt to get a license by deceit rebuffed, he's
set upon a mission to undermine Amateur Radio at any and all
opportunities. To hell with the mere mortals, HE was a PROFESSIONAL!

Poor baby, mad as hell and can't take it anymore? :-)

That seems to sum up your attitude, poor baby.

You think elimination of the code test is "undermining"
amateur radio? I don't think so.

I think so and I'm *in* amateur radio.

Roughly half the U.S.
amateur radio community doesn't think so (if the 0.6% of
all licensees is a good sampling).

Roughly half? It looks like under half of the sampling.

Many Amateur Extras
of long experience have accepted complete removal of code
testing according to WT Docket 05-235 comments.

....and many others (and licensees of other than Extra Class ticket
holders) disagree.

"Professional?" Of course. I expect to get paid for my
work. If that is some "ethical crime" then ALL the unions
and guilds and trade organizations are "guilty!" :-)

Are you an organization, Len? I was paid for my job. I've been paid as
a musician. I'm not paid as a radio amateur. I'm not paid as an
amateur astronomer.


Do I need any fancy title to enhance my "braq
quotionent?" No.

No, I don't think you need anything additional to brag about, Len. You
seem to do just fine the way things are. You might want to brush up on
spelling if you want to include that in your "braq quotionent".

I am secure in what I can do and
what I can't do, have had a long time of operating
radio transmitters legally (half century) on the EM
spectrum from LF on through to 25 GHz.

The things you are unable to do--you're secure in them?

Amateur
licensees can't go where I've been in the EM spectrum
without holding a Commercial radio license or knowing
the applicable regulations for that service where
such transmission is permitted (such as private boat
radios) without any license.

Looks like your "braq quotionent" is doing fine.


Is a federally-supervised or VEC-supervised or
COLEM-supervised morse code test "necessary" to
"round out my experience." No. I do not consider
morse code telegraphy to be useful for anything but
hobby radio. I do not have the fantasies of
greatness in radio through morsemanship, therefore
the morsemanship is of no use to me in any way.
Let those who enjoy the mode enjoy it...and NOT
force newcomers to ANY radio service to learn it
because of federal regulations requiring it.

There's a nip in the air and the winter winds are gusting, Len. Stand
here by the lodge hall window. Use your tattered jacket sleeve to wipe
away some of the condensation.

Some of the fellows are standing by the fireplace. The flames dance and
the pleasant scent of burning oak lingers in the room. A couple of
fellows are discussing their DXCC totals on Top Band. Look--four of the
members are sipping their hot buttered rum and laughing. By golly, I
think one of them mentioned "Anderson". I think they mean *you*, Len.

You poor, ignored blighter. You're still standing out in the cold and
looking in. I guess you showed us.

Dave K8MN

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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: K4YZ on Nov 17, 7:15 pm

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to
have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio
license.

[inaccurate heilian imagination...]

Inaccurate is quite right. I didn't right the paragraph above your
*write*
one-liner, Windy.

Dave K8MN

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Poor, sad Lennie. His Relys runneth over yet again.

Incontinence, north and south, seems to be his trademark.

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From: Dave Heil on Nov 18, 6:11 pm


wrote:
From: K4YZ on Nov 17, 7:15 pm
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to
have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio
license.

[inaccurate heilian imagination...]

Inaccurate is quite right. I didn't right the paragraph above your
one-liner, Windy.

"Right," Man of La Mancha...:-)

But Jimmie's prose is in the finest heilian tradition
of Writing Rongs. :-)


There you go. You can't be bothered. So what's with the amateur radio
fetish, Len? Were you beaten with a Lightning Bug as a child?

Sorry, Davie, you'll have to clean your own mirror above
your computer...too many bugs on it.

"Fetish?" :-) All for wanting to toss out an old, out-dated
code test that isn't useful to anyone but some old farts like
yourself?

Oh, yes, I remember your EXCUSES for using "CW" on a TTY
circuit in Africa someplace...you had to "synchronize"
your TTY machines.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you wish to make a mountain out of a molehill, you can
get some staffer at Newington to look into my correspondence
with the late Vic Clark, then President of ARRL.

I'm sure it is all neatly archived. They just need to grab the "Leonard
H. Anderson" accordian folder.

Tsk, I didn't bother to keep mine, went in recycling years
ago. FCC 90-53 made it just the same. "One small step
for code test elimination, one giant leap for Technicians."

Did you know that both Tech classes together constitute almost
HALF of all U.S. amateur radio license grants? True!


So your ideas were dismissed and you've never gotten over it. I knew
Vic Clark. He was a fine person.

Of course he was. You've met everyone of note. They visit
you at one of your embassies? :-)

Vic Clark expired years ago, Davie.

You say nice-nice about the long-ago dead? That's nice.



It isn't exactly a civil rights movement, is it, Len? Did you guys
stage a big march on Newington?

Ohm my, aren't you the nasty fella? :-)

"Newington" isn't the center of the universe. It isn't even the
center of the hamiverse. What comes out of there is poesy of
the good old days in hamme radddio...following in the nightly
yellow footsteps of the Great One, "T.O.M."

Sorry, lil Davie, but there was a "comment march" on Washington.
3,786 filings worth on WT Docket 05-235.

The anti-code-test movement is gaining momentum. The year
2005 isn't 1935 anymore and fewer and fewer people are
agreeing with the code-aholics.

Try to learn to live with it. It's for your own good.


You think elimination of the code test is "undermining"
amateur radio? I don't think so.

I think so and I'm *in* amateur radio.

Then dig your barricades deep. When the bulldozers over-
run you, more of your body parts will stay attached to
your body.


Roughly half the U.S.
amateur radio community doesn't think so (if the 0.6% of
all licensees is a good sampling).

Roughly half? It looks like under half of the sampling.

ROUGHLY HALF, lil Davie.

Of course you are going to ARGUE your lil pointy nose off
that Joe Speroni's BIASED (definitely pro-code)
interpretations are some kind of super accuracy and
"valid." They aren't, but he's a morseman extra and
he's okay. :-)


Are you an organization, Len? I was paid for my job.

By the Department of State. You WERE from the government
and were there to "help." Which may explain the bad image
of the USA outside of our borders.

I've been paid as a musician.

Union or scab? [wanna see my AFTRA card? :-) ]

I'm not paid as a radio amateur.

No? Awwwwww....

I'm not paid as an amateur astronomer.

Neither are you required to have ANY license to look at
frequencies higher than 300 GHz...such as way, way up
in light. :-)

Does Palomar know about you? Does Schmidt help you?


No, I don't think you need anything additional to brag about, Len.

Davie, baby, "it ain't braggin' if ya DONE it. I done it."

Remember who used that Dizzy Dean misquote in here first?

You seem to do just fine the way things are.

Quite right, La Manchie...

You might want to brush up on
spelling if you want to include that in your "braq quotionent".

YESSIR, Mr. Herr Robust! I vill do as you kommand!

I vill WRIGHT all my RONGS! [just like you did]


The things you are unable to do--you're secure in them?

Absolutely.

Tsk, tsk, there are so many NEW things coming up, things
that weren't here before, that there's PLENTY of new
stuff to explore, to experiment with, to fool around with.


Looks like your "braq quotionent" is doing fine.

HAY La Manchie, Ise doing lak ya said, tryin' ta WRITE mah
RONGS.

You gotsa prollem wid dat?


There's a nip in the air and the winter winds are gusting, Len.

Ooooo...you're RIGHT, OAT got down to mebbe 60 F tonight!

Stand here by the lodge hall window.

Good lord, WHY? I had lunch at Guild Headquarters today,
nice fellowship there. Food was okay.

I don't belong to any "lodge," sweetums. Haven't done that
drunken bit down at any VFW Lodge.

Use your tattered jacket sleeve to wipe
away some of the condensation.

Oh, oh...you've been cribbing your ill-literations from old
Reader's Digest magazines, haven't you?

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Some of the fellows are standing by the fireplace. The flames dance and
the pleasant scent of burning oak lingers in the room. A couple of
fellows are discussing their DXCC totals on Top Band. Look--four of the
members are sipping their hot buttered rum and laughing. By golly, I
think one of them mentioned "Anderson". I think they mean *you*, Len.

Not me, sweetums, they tawkin 'bout Anderson PowerPole connectors
for their mo-bile rigs.

Judas H. Priest, you lay those ill-literations on so thick
that the lowest-grade Associate Editor at Boys' Life would
yank it out of the slushpile and toss it in the circular
file muy pronto.

Dinna wurra, laddie, Boys' Life magazine will send you a nice,
polite form-letter REJECTION. Forget the Digest. Enquirer
doesn't go for THAT kind of syrupy, sloppy prose; I know a
free-lancer who does sell to NE. Maybe you could try the
poetry journals...don't know much about them.

"Fireplace?" "Burning oak leaves?" Mid-afternoon OAT (that's
Outside Air Temperature to you ground-bound earthlings) got
to 82 F today. Be about the same tomorrow. Gotta cut the
lawn tomorrow but that will be easy with my cordless electric
Craftsman mower (made by Black & Decker).

You poor, ignored blighter. You're still standing out in the cold and
looking in. I guess you showed us.

Sorry, you're thinking of Val Germann. He's been an unmodified
Tech for over three years. [my micro-fiber jacket isn't
tattered, you've got the wrong guy...]

I was hangin' with some NBC West Coast Hq types at lunch. We
weren't talking about hamme raddddio. HDTV and remote pickup
trucks and some new graphics imaging came up like the Oscars
show and other events to be done in wide-screen. Lookin'
good in the neighborhood.

You got any DTV-compatible TVs, lil Davie? Nice stuff there on
cable TV service. Comcast has two cable channels for nothing
but wide-screen TV, lovely imagery, looks wonderful on the
27" LCD flat-panel we just got. Saw "Alias" and "CSI" in
wide-screen last night (Thursday). Great stuff. Action and
drama. Recreation! Enjoyment!

Nah...you don't want that "crap," do you? You and your rum-
sipping buddies gotta grin about "pioneering the airwaves"
with "CW" and making all those point scores. Keep up the
wunnaful, wunnaful vurk on DX...I hope your Orion can reach
the Dakotas to pay amateur tribute to Law-rence the box-
squeezer. "Ay vun an a too..." :-)

Watch out on too much rum-sipping, old-timer. Follow the
mathematician's warning: "Don't drink and derive!"

Fork yourself, Dave. You're done.

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wrote:
From: on Thurs 17 Nov 2005 18:36
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Here, Len uses emoticons and SHOUTS by using all capitals. His
submissions to FCC are full of italics, bold text, and numbered
footnotes.

using italics in filings on Dockets at the FCC?

Your comments look childish, Len. Over the top, flamboyant, trying to
get attention by style rather than substance.

But of course you never say something in three words when three hundred
will do.

I remember Len referring to FCC Chairman Powell as "Mikey". As if he'd
actually address Mr. Powell that way....

No problem with me,
I'm not afraid of authority.

It's not about fear.

Some months back, Len mentioned here that he had once, way back
in the 1950s,

actually, the early 1960s

set about learning Morse Code. Claimed he'd actually
gotten up to about 6-8 wpm or so before deciding all the 'hard work'
wasn't worth it. That was just about the time 27 MHz cb came along,
and he jumped on that.

Other way around - he was on cb first.

No, no, NO, Jimmie, MUCH lower in frequency than that...somewhere
around 9 MHz if memory serves. Was in early February 1953, using
a BC-339 1 KW transmitter.

Built, paid for, and installed by others.

In his own words, he just "GAVE UP".

Oh, you mean "did I give up" on learning more morse code?
Yes, I did. Roughly six years later in California I gave
up on bothering to continue learning morse code.

Sure - beccause it took too much time and effort on your part. It
was hard work for you, and you thought it was not worthy of your
time and effort.

think that a "crime?"

No. You made your choice - you "GAVE UP".

Of course he does. He's a
religious zealot MORSEMAN! A proselyte for the Church of
St. Hiram.

Nope. Not at all.

Your point may be valid but I learned the Morse Code in the Scouts,
before I had any idea of becoming a ham. The fellow who taught it did
it right. There was no counting of dots and dashes. He linked the
letter sounds to groups of words like "here comes the bride" for "Q".
It wasn't work; it was fun. Brushing up my code a couple of years later
before taking the Novice exam wasn't any work either.

I learned it by listening to hams using Morse Code on 80 meters. I
first had to build myself a receiver, though.

Bully bull bull to Davie for being a Scout. And to Jimmie
Noserve for "building his own receiver!"

Did you ever build a working receiver, Len?

Such advanced teen-agers!

Actually, I wasn't a teenager when I built the receiver I used to learn
Morse Code - I was 12 years old. I built my first receiver, a simple
AM BC set, when I was 10.

Did you both get nice, pretty merit badges?

No. The receivers were their own reward.

Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to
have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio
license.

Basically, Jimmie boy, you are full of snit.

I don't see any point in learning what was ONCE the only way
to communicate in radio in order to get an AMATEUR license.

That's fine, Len. Then you don't get the license and you're not a
radio amateur. Works for me.

And you've just verified what I said - you think you are too good to
have to learn Morse Code. Not worth your time and effort.

Tsk, tsk...you forget (conveniently and whenver possible)
that I'd already operated transmitters (note plural) on HF
many years before.

No, you didn't *operate* them. You were a technician, following
the direction and supervision of others. Somebody told you to
put transmitter A on frequency B using antenna C and connect it
to incoming line D, and you (actually about three technicians) did that
according to a prearranged procedure.

That's certainly experience but it's not amateur radio experience. And
the FCC does not consider it as qualification to operate an amateur
radio station.

Want to see them?

Already did.

Here's a link:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

"my 3 years" - as if the place was all about you.

You might want to tell the United States ARMY on your demand
that all radio operators must get an amateur radio license
FIRST.

No demand, Len. You're very mistaken about that.

After all, it's been possible to get a Technician class license without
a code test for more than 14 years. All FCC-issued amateur licenses
have been available for just a 5 wpm code test for 15 years now.

THIRD MAJOR MISTAKE in one posting!

FCC 99-412 ordered all morse code test rates for
radio amateur licenses to be fixed a 5 words-per-minute
beginning in 2000. That was only FIVE years ago. Not "15."

Medical waivers.

Back in 1990, it became possible to obtain any class of FCC-issued
amateur license with just a 5 wpm code test. All it took was 5 wpm for
Novice and Technician, and 5 wpm plus a medical waiver for General,
Advanced and Extra. A medical waiver simply required a letter signed
by a doctor (M.D. or D.O.) stating that the person found it difficult
to
learn Morse Code well enough to pass the test. No specific ailment
or disability need be named, and the problem didn't have to be
permanent.

Your irrational reactions here prove that Morse Code testing - and the
Morse
Code itself - have an intense psychological effect on you. That
irrationality
could have gotten you a medical waiver easily.

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K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Meanwhile, Dudly is busy, busy kissing Hans' ass for that
navel regulation of 2005. Dudly doesn't realize that the
effective-date regulation is only for NOW, not 13 to 31
years past.

It doesn't matter when the CURRENT regulation was updated.

A quick review of the order suffix indicates it's a much-ammended
order.

A five minute phone call could verify my original statements.

Unfortunately you are incapable of that simple task.

Or unwilling...In short, a COWARD.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve would rather have a tantrum that dig out his own 1974 copy of the
regulation.

Yet Hans, long retired, has a current copy of the uniform reg???

Sumptin wrong there.

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wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

Probably the multiple personality disorder "we."

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wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

Probably the multiple personality disorder "we."

Does it matter?

None of them include you...Or Lennie...Or Markie...Or Toiddie...Or
Frankie...

Of course youse guys always have the RRAP Back Channel...Which is
about the ONLY "channel" the five of you can mutually enjoy.

Steve, K4YZ

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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

HyperLog extract station K0HB
(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:
(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).

Apology accepted. You worked the K8MN FD operation from here a few
years back and we worked during SS CW in 1980.

73,

Dave K8MN

Just amazing!!!

I forget you on a list of A-1 Ops, and you play 18 rounds of guessing
games with declarations that I'm wrong. Jim leaves you off of his list
and you pop right up and provide the information.

Who says the PCTA double-standard isn't alive and well?

I guess the only other thing this shows is that Dave is a pretty
forgettable guy.

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wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Meanwhile, Dudly is busy, busy kissing Hans' ass for that
navel regulation of 2005. Dudly doesn't realize that the
effective-date regulation is only for NOW, not 13 to 31
years past.

It doesn't matter when the CURRENT regulation was updated.

A quick review of the order suffix indicates it's a much-ammended
order.

A five minute phone call could verify my original statements.

Unfortunately you are incapable of that simple task.

Or unwilling...In short, a COWARD.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve would rather have a tantrum that dig out his own 1974 copy of the
regulation.

WHAT "1974" copy of ANY regulation?

Yet Hans, long retired, has a current copy of the uniform reg???

I am suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure he had it "right there",
Brain...

Sumptin wrong there.

Why?

The purpose of the whole drill was to get you to find out from
uncontestable sources that my information was accurate. Hans'
presenting of the order, howevr well intentioned, harpooned that.

None-the-less, Frankie's rant was shot all to be-jeebers.

Steve, K4YZ

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wrote:
wrote:

Hello? Can we say Davie is also pompous and arrogant?

You just did, Len.

I third that motion.

Nope. Extra Morsemen are allowed any kind of personal insult
against others while all NCTA have to be "kind," "gracious,"
and "civil" to them. :-)

Actually, it's the other way around.

I see it differently.

Using my RIGHTS as a citizen.

As are all of us who filed comments.

So what's your problem?

Tsk, tsk, Extra Morsemen want
NCTAs to abrogate their citizenship rights. Not good.

Also not true.

So what's your problem?

Yep, as Hans Brakob has pointed out on a number of occasions, Len is the
organ grinder; you are the red-hatted monkey.

Hans the Dump Huck caller?

Once more, Extra Morsemen think they have civility immunity.

I guess phrases like "shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel" are
Len's idea of civility.

I guess calling people the phonetic equivalent of "Dumb ****" meets
with your aproval?

I'm only retired from REGULAR HOURS. :-)

So you're irregular, huh?

Jim making an insult?

Just finished a contract
job trying to find a better way to protect against tin dendrites
in consumer-grade PCBs made with lead-free solder. We found a
slightly-better way that had already been done, but no cheap way,
sad to say.

In other words, you FAILED, Len....

RoHS failed humanity.

In case anyone has been on the Outer Planets in the past decade,
the Reduction of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) is THE thing in
electronics production now.

We know, Len.

Multiple personality disorder "we," or papal "we," or royal "we?"

Problem is, without the lead in
conventional solder, tin will grow tiny, tiny "whiskers" (called
tin dendrites) that can short out circuit traces.

Yep.

Happens long
after production soldering. Can't use a simple meter like the
old standard Simpson 260...too much ohmmeter current...blows
open the dendrite and desposits it back on the traces.

Awww....

You're missing the bigger problem.

The reason for all the concern with hazardous substances in electronics
is because of their effect on the waste stream. "Modern" consumer
electronics are usually not designed to be easily or economically
repairable, so if something fails it is usually replaced rather than
repaired. Worse, the rapid changes in technology have resulted in a
large volume of working-but-outdated electronics (mostly computers)
being discarded rather than recycling.

Rather than trying to recycle and reuse, the regulators are trying to
stop the problem at the source. A bad solution, but you'd think the
PROFESSIONALS would have seen that one coming....

Regulators are not "PROFESSIONALS." They know nothing of the
environment nor electronics. And I've never seen Jim testifying on
CSPAN. Serves in other ways.

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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

Third option:

In 'phone operation, some hams and others refer to themselves
as "we" on the air. As in "We were listening on 3885 last night
and heard the Timtron trying out a new PW rig" or "Yes,
Claude, we saw the new Annihilator 2000 at Dayton but frankly
it's really just a repackaged Pulverizer 1000 costing 50% more"
and such.

Morse Code operators never use the plural to refer to themselves
alone.

When pressed for a reason to use the plural, some respond that
"we" refers to 'the station and the operator', thereby
anthropomorphizing the rig to degree that is rather extreme.

So perhaps Len is referring to himself and his radio when he
uses the term 'we'. IOW, when Len wrote:

"We have NOT seen"

he was referring to himself and his classic, compact Johnson.

HyperLog extract station K0HB
(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:
(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).

Apology accepted. You worked the K8MN FD operation from here a few
years back and we worked during SS CW in 1980.

DOH! Sorry, Dave! There's probably a couple more I've worked, too, such
as AT4ST (Arnie) and K3LT.

---

Say, your imagery of the lodge hall reminded me of these classic lines
of prose:

"The fire in the shack of the .....radio station burned low and
conversation lagged. .....Lazy, feathery flakes, beginning at midnight,
had changed to a fine, peppery mist swirling in from the north, and the
wind moaned down the chimney in icy cadences."

"...was the chief operator and and wore sterling crossed bars of chain
lightning on the shoulder of his navy blue jersey. There was no greater
this side of Heaven..."

"Five minutes passed with only the wind, the old clock, and the keying
relay breaking the silence."

"....and touched the knob timidly. The shadow scale above it moved
slightly. How easily it turned! Encouraged, he moved it a little more.
A faint hiss which had begun to evidence itself in the dynamic speaker
was at that instant ripped asunder by a kaleidescope of crisp,
bell-like signals..."

"Thousands of miles of black, tumbling ocean intervened. Outside, the
two great towers, outlined irregularly in white, rose up and up into
the swirling snow; downstairs the input reactors sang monotonously in
the ghastly glow of the rectifiers......imparted a dull radiance to the
the polished edges of the neutralizing condenser discs. All were
waiting, ready to hurl the dynamite."

73 de Jim, N2EY

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