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wrote in message oups.com... From: on Dec 11, 8:08 pm wrote: K?B wrote: "Dee Flint" wrote That's what will be the real problem. As so many have pointed out, there is no organization to which the majority of hams belongs, at least in this country. While the ARRL is the largest, the majority of the ham population does NOT belong to it and will likely scream bloody murder if they were to get to establish the band plan. That's what makes the IARU an attractive vehicle. While no individual pays memberships dues in IARU, all hams are defacto members of IARU because each country has a representative who represents ALL hams in their jurisdiction independent of whether they are members of the national "club" like ARRL, RAC, RSGB, DARC, JARL, or whatever. But there's a big problem there....see below You always know better than everyone else. See below. Tsk, we've seen it many, many times... :-( IARU is not a government agency. It is us, the hams of the world, totally independent of national governments and independent of international organizations like ITU or CEPT. Who better than the hams to decide how ham frequencies should be used? Are we so conditioned to "big government" dependency that (within our allocations) we need disinvolved government bureaucrats to make decisions that much more logically belong to the actual affected users? But do the actual users get a real voice? Do I get to vote on the bandplan for bands I use? Do I even get to elect the representative who does? Didn't Carl attend the last ITU meeting? Didn't the ARRL attend? Didn't the FCC attend? How much representation do you need, Jim? Himself in the Chairman's chair? Or will the bandplans be decided upon by folks whom are even less beholden to "the users" than the FCC? Benevolent King Jim will rule intelligently and fairly. To the extent that the band plan would not be dynamic on a minute-to-minute schedule, you are correct. But it certainly be more dynamic and responsive that the current generation-to-generation schedule of ?97.305. A group would have to meet and reallocate as needed. In the 1930's that certainly would have been an impediment. But 75 years later in 2005, give me a list of 100 IARU representatives and within the next hour I can establish a secure and private "meeting room" on the internet where they can hold their allocation meetings, hammer out their agreements, and publish the bandplan on a global basis before halftime of Monday Night Football. And here's the problem: Let me sit down and pour a stiff drink. ...and I slip a note to Hans suggesting he change the "hour" to "24 hours" to accommodate the international time zones of the IARU... Suppose for a moment the IARU scheme is done by regionfor HF - after all, that's how the allocations work. So IARU reps from all the Region 2 countries decide how the Region 2 HF bandplan works. Does each member country get one vote? If so, that puts the USA, with its 661,000+ amateurs, at the same voting level as a country with a few dozen amateurs. A coalition of small countries with a handful of amateurs could dictate the bandplan for whole region. Oh, my. I hope that the US hams have treated "thier" neighbor hams kindly. If King Jim has so decreed, they have. Meanwhile there's a large crowd who've just dropped the drawbridge and are storming the castle. King Jim may have to abdicate to a simple white "throne." If not, the USA's enormous amateur population makes us the de-facto 800 pound gorilla in the region. Can't we all just get along? King Kong made it to the top of the Empire State building, then had a big fall. You might say Kong "went ape" when he couldn't get what he wanted. Helluva big disposal problem for NYC. The same for the fantasies of all those morsemen who want their private little playground at the expense of others. Well, those guys are biodegradeable also... In either case, the IARU member society for the USA is...the ARRL. Which is why it's so important to keep movers and shakers like Carl out of the organization's management. God rest ye, league gentlemen, let nothing you dismay... Do you think everyone will be glad the ARRL is the USA's representative for determining bandplans? It would be better if the IARU declared a plan rather than go with the ARRL's recent bandplan scheme. ARRL still doesn't "represent" any more than one in five U.S. amateur radio licensees. They barely made one in four a while back. They've been nothing but a MINORITY representative organization all along. ARRL has NEVER "represented" those who might want to join amateur radio through licensing...they just dictate to everyone what newcomers must think and do. If the ARRL *truly* wanted to "represent" all U.S. radio amateurs, they should quit going around with their familiar arrogant posturing of "we know what is best for the rest of you." FCC of the futu "Here are your allocated bands, use all allocated modes anywhere. No bandplans. Enjoy your options. Try not to mess up comms of others and follow the technical requirements." That's really all that's needed for a HOBBY. Those who need control, control, and compex fastidious little sub-band planning should go to Dr. Phil or join a federal comms agency. Since I've been told the FAA grants amateur radio licenses, not the FCC, I may have to start writing the FAA. :-) Dr Phil does not handle ham radio cases. You must have him confused with Dr Hambone. I am busy right now helping Hans decide if he should wear his uniform to the Legion Christmas party. Rabbi Phil Ruling San Hedrin Council |
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wrote: From: on Dec 11, 8:08 pm wrote: K؈B wrote: "Dee Flint" wrote That's what will be the real problem. As so many have pointed out, there is no organization to which the majority of hams belongs, at least inthis country. While the ARRL is the largest, the majority of the ham population does NOT belong to it and will likely scream bloody murder if theywere to get to establish the band plan. That's what makes the IARU an attractive vehicle. While no individual pays memberships dues in IARU, all hams are defacto members of IARU because each country has a representative who represents ALL hams in their jurisdiction independent of whether they are members of the national "club" like ARRL, RAC, RSGB, DARC, JARL, or whatever. But there's a big problem there....see below You always know better than everyone else. See below. Tsk, we've seen it many, many times... :-( So much so that it's predictable. ;^) IARU is not a government agency. It is us, the hams of the world, totally independent of national governments and independent of international organizations like ITU or CEPT. Who better than the hams to decide how ham frequencies should be used? Are we so conditioned to "big government" dependency that (within our allocations) we need disinvolved government bureaucrats to make decisions that much more logically belong to theactual affected users? But do the actual users get a real voice? Do I get to vote on the bandplan for bands I use? Do I even get to elect the representative who does? Didn't Carl attend the last ITU meeting? Didn't the ARRL attend? Didn't the FCC attend? How much representation do you need, Jim? Himself in the Chairman's chair? Maybe they should send FISTS to the meeting. Or will the bandplans be decided upon by folks whom are even less beholden to "the users" than the FCC? Benevolent King Jim will rule intelligently and fairly. To the extent that the band plan would not be dynamic on a minute-to-minute schedule, you are correct. But it certainly be more dynamic and responsive that the current generation-to-generation schedule of ?97.305. A group would have to meet and reallocate as needed. In the 1930's that certainly would have been an impediment. But 75 years later in 2005, give me a list of 100 IARU representatives and within the next hour I can establish a secure and private "meeting room" on the internet where they can hold their allocation meetings, hammer out their agreements, and publish the bandplan on a global basis before halftime of Monday Night Football. And here's the problem: Let me sit down and pour a stiff drink. ...and I slip a note to Hans suggesting he change the "hour" to "24 hours" to accommodate the international time zones of the IARU... There are three ITU regions, so the clock divided by three leaves each region with an 8 hour window of opportunity, though it may take Hans only one hour to setup the conf. call. Suppose for a moment the IARU scheme is done by regionfor HF - after all, that's how the allocations work. So IARU reps from all the Region 2 countries decide how the Region 2 HF bandplan works. Does each member country get one vote? If so, that puts the USA, with its 661,000+ amateurs, at the same voting level as a country with a few dozen amateurs. A coalition of small countries with a handful of amateurs could dictate the bandplan for whole region. Oh, my. I hope that the US hams have treated "thier" neighbor hams kindly. If King Jim has so decreed, they have. Meanwhile there's a large crowd who've just dropped the drawbridge and are storming the castle. King Jim may have to abdicate to a simple white "throne." Certainly he can "serve" in his own Kingdom? If not, the USA's enormous amateur population makes us the de-facto 800 pound gorilla in the region. Can't we all just get along? King Kong made it to the top of the Empire State building, then had a big fall. You might say Kong "went ape" when he couldn't get what he wanted. I thought he wanted the pretty girl? Helluva big disposal problem for NYC. The same for the fantasies of all those morsemen who want their private little playground at the expense of others. Well, those guys are biodegradeable also... No sharing of spectrum? In either case, the IARU member society for the USA is...the ARRL. Which is why it's so important to keep movers and shakers like Carl out of the organization's management. God rest ye, league gentlemen, let nothing you dismay... I suspect that Carl will "serve in other ways." ;^)) Do you think everyone will be glad the ARRL is the USA's representative for determining bandplans? It would be better if the IARU declared a plan rather than go with the ARRL's recent bandplan scheme. ARRL still doesn't "represent" any more than one in five U.S. amateur radio licensees. They barely made one in four a while back. They've been nothing but a MINORITY representative organization all along. ARRL has NEVER "represented" those who might want to join amateur radio through licensing...they just dictate to everyone what newcomers must think and do. They're so proud of Dee. If the ARRL *truly* wanted to "represent" all U.S. radio amateurs, they should quit going around with their familiar arrogant posturing of "we know what is best for the rest of you." FCC of the futu "Here are your allocated bands, use all allocated modes anywhere. No bandplans. Enjoy your options. Try not to mess up comms of others and follow the technical requirements." That's really all that's needed for a HOBBY. Those who need control, control, and compex fastidious little sub-band planning should go to Dr. Phil or join a federal comms agency. Since I've been told the FAA grants amateur radio licenses, not the FCC, I may have to start writing the FAA. :-) Suprised they don't farm it out to the FFA. |
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wrote Didn't Carl attend the last ITU meeting? Didn't the ARRL attend? Didn't the FCC attend? Who cares? We aren't talking about ITU. We're talking about IARU. They're unrelated entities. Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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wrote But in the "real world", that would boil down to a bunch of appointed experts going into the proverbial smoky back room and coming up with a bandplan that would have the force of law in the USA. "Smoky back room"? Aren't you the evenhanded/non-biased wordsmith now?!?!? Classic case of "don't confuse me with new ideas that I didn't think of". NIH in spades. Guys like you are why Amateur Radio is stuck in the 1940's. |
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From: on Dec 12, 3:34 pm
wrote: From: on Dec 11, 8:08 pm wrote: K0HB wrote: "Dee Flint" wrote That's what makes the IARU an attractive vehicle. While no individual pays memberships dues in IARU, all hams are defacto members of IARU because each country has a representative who represents ALL hams in their jurisdiction independent of whether they are members of the national "club" like ARRL, RAC, RSGB, DARC, JARL, or whatever. But there's a big problem there....see below You always know better than everyone else. See below. Tsk, we've seen it many, many times... :-( So much so that it's predictable. ;^) Heh heh heh. But do the actual users get a real voice? Do I get to vote on the bandplan for bands I use? Do I even get to elect the representative who does? Didn't Carl attend the last ITU meeting? Didn't the ARRL attend? Didn't the FCC attend? How much representation do you need, Jim? Himself in the Chairman's chair? Maybe they should send FISTS to the meeting. ...the man with the Golden Glove... Or will the bandplans be decided upon by folks whom are even less beholden to "the users" than the FCC? Benevolent King Jim will rule intelligently and fairly. [as long as he gets his way...] In the 1930's that certainly would have been an impediment. But 75 years later in 2005, give me a list of 100 IARU representatives and within the next hour I can establish a secure and private "meeting room" on the internet where they can hold their allocation meetings, hammer out their agreements, and publish the bandplan on a global basis before halftime of Monday Night Football. And here's the problem: Let me sit down and pour a stiff drink. I think I'll join you in that since Hans had to jump in and CORRECT a "relationship" of ITU and IARU where the ITU was brought up by yourself only in a passing remark and not dwelled on... :-( ...and I slip a note to Hans suggesting he change the "hour" to "24 hours" to accommodate the international time zones of the IARU... There are three ITU regions, so the clock divided by three leaves each region with an 8 hour window of opportunity, though it may take Hans only one hour to setup the conf. call. I don't know that "conference calls" are needed either. With tossing e-mail back and forth, it wouldn't take longer than a week and nobody has to physically travel to an in-person meeting...nor pay any per diem. If tried in an 8-hour period that leaves out 16 hours for two-thirds of the globe. Nobody gonna get "friendly" if they have to be up between 11 PM through 7 AM the next day LOCALLY. Does each member country get one vote? If so, that puts the USA, with its 661,000+ amateurs, at the same voting level as a country with a few dozen amateurs. A coalition of small countries with a handful of amateurs could dictate the bandplan for whole region. Oh, my. I hope that the US hams have treated "thier" neighbor hams kindly. If King Jim has so decreed, they have. Meanwhile there's a large crowd who've just dropped the drawbridge and are storming the castle. King Jim may have to abdicate to a simple white "throne." Certainly he can "serve" in his own Kingdom? Yes, but his "kingdom" will have shrunk fantastically in population. If not, the USA's enormous amateur population makes us the de-facto 800 pound gorilla in the region. Can't we all just get along? King Kong made it to the top of the Empire State building, then had a big fall. You might say Kong "went ape" when he couldn't get what he wanted. I thought he wanted the pretty girl? So does King Jim. Maybe if he shaves all over...? Helluva big disposal problem for NYC. The same for the fantasies of all those morsemen who want their private little playground at the expense of others. Well, those guys are biodegradeable also... No sharing of spectrum? Not for the elite morsemen extras. In either case, the IARU member society for the USA is...the ARRL. Which is why it's so important to keep movers and shakers like Carl out of the organization's management. God rest ye, league gentlemen, let nothing you dismay... I suspect that Carl will "serve in other ways." ;^)) He already is and has...with the pros. Oooops, I said a nasty in this group of morsemen...! |
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KØHB wrote: wrote But in the "real world", that would boil down to a bunch of appointed experts going into the proverbial smoky back room and coming up with a bandplan that would have the force of law in the USA. "Smoky back room"? Yes, Hans, "smoky back room". Guess I should have included the "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE = ON" indicator for that one, because you missed the point. My bad. Look at how the ARRL is perceived by some hams, just for producing *proposals*. Like the "regulation by bandwidth" thing. The ARRL Board is frequently accused of "smoky back room" behavior - and tney're elected! Do you think an unelected IARU committee would fare any better? If an IARU committee were given the power to make bandplans that became the defacto regulations, can't you hear the shouting? Aren't you the evenhanded/non-biased wordsmith now?!?!? Classic case of "don't confuse me with new ideas that I didn't think of".NIH in spades. Guys like you are why Amateur Radio is stuck in the 1940's. I simply disagree with the idea that "market forces" should set bandplans. We've seen what happens when some things are not adequately regulated. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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wrote in message ups.com... KØHB wrote: wrote But in the "real world", that would boil down to a bunch of appointed experts going into the proverbial smoky back room and coming up with a bandplan that would have the force of law in the USA. "Smoky back room"? Yes, Hans, "smoky back room". Guess I should have included the "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE = ON" indicator for that one, because you missed the point. My bad. Look at how the ARRL is perceived by some hams, just for producing *proposals*. ............ Do you think an unelected IARU committee would fare any better? If an IARU committee were given the power to make bandplans that became the defacto regulations, can't you hear the shouting? Sure there'd be shouting! Hell, there are people still shouting here on rrap about how the old "Class A" guys were hurt by the "Great Giveaway" back over a half century ago. Let em shout! We've seen what happens when some things are not adequately regulated. But more than that, we've seen what happens when some things are over-regulated. No competition generally brings stagnation, resistance to progressive initiatives, and eventual marginalization. Like what's happening to ARRL and Amateur Radio. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Dec 9, 6:28 pm wrote: wrote: Jim, is this what you meant when you said that you "served in other ways?" Brian, You have written that phrase as a direct quote, and attributed it to me. Where have I written that I 'served in other ways'? So you haven't "served in other ways?" September 24, 2004; Nope. I did not write that I "served in other ways" on that date. "Nope." January 13, February 10, May 25 2005. Nope, nope, and nope again. I did not write that I "served in other ways" on any of those dates either. "Nope, nope, and nope again." You're starting to sound like Steve. Everyone else gets everything wrong. If you're wrong, Brain, you're wrong. Why do you and the Feeble Five have a hard time with that simple concept? Len, if you had actually *read* what I wrote on those days, you'd know that. What I have written is a question for you and others. Can you answer your own question? Can you answer mine about why you've used diminutives against Jim when he's never used them on you? Here it is again: Is service in the military the only way a citizen can serve our country? Or are there other ways? A rhetorical question? You wanted an answer? Or were you implying that you "served in other ways?" Can you answer your own question, or are you going to leave it up to us Veterans of low-intelligence who got duped by "The Man" to act as cannon fodder in exchange for a chance at an education? Again with the self-victimizing, Brain. And a very, VERY poor suggestion that Jim said anything of the kind. Steve, K4YZ |
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wrote: From: on Dec 11, 10:06 am wrote: wrote: From: on Dec 10, 1:14 pm wrote: From: on Dec 9, 6:28 pm wrote: wrote: Where have I written that I 'served in other ways'? So you haven't "served in other ways?" Jim? Hello? I hear nothing from him on "serving." I'm finally getting the picture. Jim asks the question if it is possible to "serve in other ways?" Not that HE served in other ways, mind you, but "other people may have served in other ways." Ah! The fog begins to lift over the land of ambiguity! Land ho! Jim remains a no server in any category. Oh, I dunno, connect to that server and lots of spam comes across... Could be he fired up his personal "wayback machine" and went back to 1936 to review the ARRL political situation on morris goad testing rates. I think that was before "Farnsworth" rates were introduced. W6TTB introduced his method in the 50's (that is, 1950's). ? In 1936 I was 3 to 4 years old. Jimmie didn't exist anywhere close to zygote stage yet, wouldn't be born for 19 or so years. Jim lost priveleges. Hmmm...can he "lose" something he doesn't have in 1936? I'm reminded of having been called a "liar" because I said that Michael Deignan had 12 amateur radio licenses. I was wrong. Michael Deignan's wife had one of them, at same address (at that time). Mike only had 11. I believe Riley then whittled it down to 3. But I'm a "liar." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Gotta love these guys. Heh heh, that "love" is "tough." :-) Being 11/12th right makes one a "LIAR!" Good 'ol "new math!" :-) Yeah, I remember Mikey D's little missives in here, his adventures with the (?) "radio commandos." Mikey ain't got them dozen club calls no more. How about that? Riley allowed the Radio Commando's to live on. Their "enlistment rate" was extremely low. Mebbe they disbanded and now hang out at the local VFW? Brian, here's a KEEPER for an EXACT QUOTE. On December 10, 2005, Jimmie write the following: "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." Exact, word for word. :-) Good Grief!!! I wonder if being right 0/12 merits the label "liar?" No. In Jimmie's case he is ALWAYS right, no matter if he makes a typographical error or not, therefore can NEVER LIE. Anyone else who makes a typo is AUTOMATICALLY a LIAR all the time, "constantly making mistakes and errors!" Len and Brian, If you are going to give direct quotes of what someone allegedly wrote, you should use the exact words they wrote. That's what "direct quote" means. Jim, please feel free to provide a direct quote. Well, I think I obliged Jimmie with the destined-to-become-classic faux pas of his. Here it is again (from 10 Dec 05): "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." He might be right. Do you think the FCC outsourced licensing to India? Wow! I never thought of that! You may be on to something! He can't understand that other people read the entirety of his boasting claims of doing more than others and doing it oh-so-much-better. The fact is that you were both shown to be wrong and now you're trying to tapdance away from the fact that you misguoted me. Tapdance? Jim, please feel free to provide a direct quote. Really. Can we have some accompanyment to the time-steps? :-) Rogers&Astair Gone..."silent taps." Gregory Hines, greatest of the tap men..."silent taps." Jim Fixx, multiple author of books on running...gone. Guess I'll have to drive over to one of the "dancer's" cobbler shops in town and get some tap shoes. One guy claims to have done it on court shoes (a lot more comfortable than the leather-top jobbies). Good trick if they last... Here's a DIRECT QUOTE again (from Jimmie on 10 Dec 05): "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." Good Grief! Jimmie wrote that, he did... Or even better, you could explain how one "serves in other ways." Always from the right of the patron? The lady first? Perhaps he could get a hand towel with his callsign embroidered on it to carry across his forearm. It's better than the callsign tattooed across the knuckles of each hand... Gosh, we may have to get Jimmie an "Etty-Kit" so he can serve properly and correctly! He's already been to charm school. He must have flunked out...of that correspondence school... Real estate chatter snipped. Pity that. Jimmie KNOWS ALL ABOUT the "basis and purpose" of local zoning ordinances. We can say nothing about zoning until Jimmie gets us all "zoned" out of this world and into another realm of existance. Twilight Zone? There is no subject that Jim can't pretend to speak intelligently on. True. Sadly true by demonstration. |
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wrote: From: on Dec 12, 3:17 pm wrote: From: on Dec 11, 10:06 am wrote: wrote: From: on Dec 10, 1:14 pm wrote: From: on Dec 9, 6:28 pm wrote: wrote: Where have I written that I 'served in other ways'? So you haven't "served in other ways?" Jim? Hello? I hear nothing from him on "serving." I'm finally getting the picture. Jim asks the question if it is possible to "serve in other ways?" Not that HE served in other ways, mind you, but "other people may have served in other ways." Ah! The fog begins to lift over the land of ambiguity! Land ho! I guess you've got to read between every line with these guys. How William Jefferson has changed the nature of "truth." Sigh. Jim remains a no server in any category. Oh, I dunno, connect to that server and lots of spam comes across... Pretends to talk a pretty good talk til you read between the lines. Could be he fired up his personal "wayback machine" and went back to 1936 to review the ARRL political situation on morris goad testing rates. I think that was before "Farnsworth" rates were introduced. W6TTB introduced his method in the 50's (that is, 1950's). ? Farnsworth. Introduced his method in the 1950's, 110 years or so after Morse, about the same time that the military and civilian world was abandoning Morse. The ARRL begins implementing Farnsworth w/o notice in the late 80's, makes a public notice about 10 years later. In 1936 I was 3 to 4 years old. Jimmie didn't exist anywhere close to zygote stage yet, wouldn't be born for 19 or so years. Jim lost priveleges. Hmmm...can he "lose" something he doesn't have in 1936? Well, he probably would have if he had been alive at the time. I'm reminded of having been called a "liar" because I said that Michael Deignan had 12 amateur radio licenses. I was wrong. Michael Deignan's wife had one of them, at same address (at that time). Mike only had 11. I believe Riley then whittled it down to 3. But I'm a "liar." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Gotta love these guys. Heh heh, that "love" is "tough." :-) Being 11/12th right makes one a "LIAR!" Good 'ol "new math!" :-) New math nor Jim's math would have gotten us to the Moon. Yeah, I remember Mikey D's little missives in here, his adventures with the (?) "radio commandos." Mikey ain't got them dozen club calls no more. How about that? Riley allowed the Radio Commando's to live on. Their "enlistment rate" was extremely low. "A Commando Unit of One" Mebbe they disbanded and now hang out at the local VFW? In "thier" wildest dreams. Well..., maybe as a guest. But at the first hint how they "served in other ways..." Brian, here's a KEEPER for an EXACT QUOTE. On December 10, 2005, Jimmie write the following: "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." Exact, word for word. :-) Good Grief!!! I wonder if being right 0/12 merits the label "liar?" No. In Jimmie's case he is ALWAYS right, no matter if he makes a typographical error or not, therefore can NEVER LIE. I just hope he has a license to drive all that pure snow around Anyone else who makes a typo is AUTOMATICALLY a LIAR all the time, "constantly making mistakes and errors!" Tha's Steve's job. Len and Brian, If you are going to give direct quotes of what someone allegedly wrote, you should use the exact words they wrote. That's what "direct quote" means. Jim, please feel free to provide a direct quote. Well, I think I obliged Jimmie with the destined-to-become-classic faux pas of his. Here it is again (from 10 Dec 05): "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." He might be right. Do you think the FCC outsourced licensing to India? Wow! I never thought of that! You may be on to something! Recall the '98 NPRM? Do you think that was the work of an EFL or ESL? He can't understand that other people read the entirety of his boasting claims of doing more than others and doing it oh-so-much-better. The fact is that you were both shown to be wrong and now you're trying to tapdance away from the fact that you misguoted me. Tapdance? Jim, please feel free to provide a direct quote. Really. Can we have some accompanyment to the time-steps? :-) Rogers&Astair Gone..."silent taps." Gregory Hines, greatest of the tap men..."silent taps." Jim Fixx, multiple author of books on running...gone. I guess we'll have to settle for a metronome. Guess I'll have to drive over to one of the "dancer's" cobbler shops in town and get some tap shoes. One guy claims to have done it on court shoes (a lot more comfortable than the leather-top jobbies). Good trick if they last... Here's a DIRECT QUOTE again (from Jimmie on 10 Dec 05): "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." Good Grief! Jimmie wrote that, he did... Perhaps he thinks the FCC hires civilians and puts them to work. Then after sufficient time has passed, the FCC says the applicant has "earned" "thier" license. Or even better, you could explain how one "serves in other ways." Always from the right of the patron? The lady first? Perhaps he could get a hand towel with his callsign embroidered on it to carry across his forearm. It's better than the callsign tattooed across the knuckles of each hand... Jim has tatoos? Gosh, we may have to get Jimmie an "Etty-Kit" so he can serve properly and correctly! He's already been to charm school. He must have flunked out...of that correspondence school... Hopefully the VA recovered that GI Bill money. Real estate chatter snipped. Pity that. Jimmie KNOWS ALL ABOUT the "basis and purpose" of local zoning ordinances. We can say nothing about zoning until Jimmie gets us all "zoned" out of this world and into another realm of existance. Twilight Zone? There is no subject that Jim can't pretend to speak intelligently on. True. Sadly true by demonstration. "A Morse Code Exam would be a Barrier to Morse Code Use." |
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Dec 9, 6:28 pm wrote: wrote: Jim, is this what you meant when you said that you "served in other ways?" Brian, You have written that phrase as a direct quote, and attributed it to me. Where have I written that I 'served in other ways'? So you haven't "served in other ways?" September 24, 2004; Nope. I did not write that I "served in other ways" on that date. "Nope." January 13, February 10, May 25 2005. Nope, nope, and nope again. I did not write that I "served in other ways" on any of those dates either. "Nope, nope, and nope again." You're starting to sound like Steve. Everyone else gets everything wrong. If you're wrong, Brain, you're wrong. Brian Why do you and the Feeble Five have a hard time with that simple concept? Me and the "Feeble Five?" Len, if you had actually *read* what I wrote on those days, you'd know that. What I have written is a question for you and others. Can you answer your own question? Can you answer mine about why you've used diminutives against Jim when he's never used them on you? I've never sent a diminuitive to do a man's job. I think there are laws against it. Here it is again: Is service in the military the only way a citizen can serve our country? Or are there other ways? A rhetorical question? You wanted an answer? Or were you implying that you "served in other ways?" Can you answer your own question, or are you going to leave it up to us Veterans of low-intelligence who got duped by "The Man" to act as cannon fodder in exchange for a chance at an education? Again with the self-victimizing, Brain. Not at all. One can only imagine what Jim thinks of Veterans after some of his more recent postings. An one can only imagine why he thought himself too precious to serve... Since he has no answers, only questions. And a very, VERY poor suggestion that Jim said anything of the kind. Yeh, well, I've heard it from other no-servers. Jim has no answers, only questions. |
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.com: wrote: K4YZ wrote: If you're wrong, Brain, you're wrong. Brian Yeah. Right. Why do you and the Feeble Five have a hard time with that simple concept? Me and the "Feeble Five?" Do you now have an English comprehension deficit, Brain? Coming from the only person to ever use the phrase "English comprehension deficit", I'd say the question is irrelevant. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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wrote: From: on Dec 12, 3:17 pm wrote: From: on Dec 11, 10:06 am wrote: wrote: From: on Dec 10, 1:14 pm wrote: From: on Dec 9, 6:28 pm wrote: wrote: So you haven't "served in other ways?" Jim? Hello? I hear nothing from him on "serving." I'm finally getting the picture. Jim asks the question if it is possible to "serve in other ways?" Not that HE served in other ways, mind you, but "other people may have served in other ways." Ah! The fog begins to lift over the land of ambiguity! Land ho! I guess you've got to read between every line with these guys. Hmmm...in that case I'm getting a disturbing picture of Jimmie Noserve = Dudly the Imposter. NOT a good picture for the ARS. How William Jefferson has changed the nature of "truth." Sigh. Tsk, this isn't a question of Presidential Politics. In that case, what of George Walker ever going beyond the Air Guard service? :-( Sorry, but the last REAL SERVING IN THE MILITARY President was James Earle Carter, USN, and George Herbert Walker Bush, USNR, and Gerald Rudolph Ford, USNR. [living that is] None of them had any direct contact with amateur radio. Jim remains a no server in any category. Oh, I dunno, connect to that server and lots of spam comes across... Pretends to talk a pretty good talk til you read between the lines. ...and then he gets all snotty when ya don't agree wid him. Could be he fired up his personal "wayback machine" and went back to 1936 to review the ARRL political situation on morris goad testing rates. I think that was before "Farnsworth" rates were introduced. W6TTB introduced his method in the 50's (that is, 1950's). ? Farnsworth. Introduced his method in the 1950's, 110 years or so after Morse, about the same time that the military and civilian world was abandoning Morse. The ARRL begins implementing Farnsworth w/o notice in the late 80's, makes a public notice about 10 years later. ARRL can never do anything wrong. In 1936 I was 3 to 4 years old. Jimmie didn't exist anywhere close to zygote stage yet, wouldn't be born for 19 or so years. Jim lost priveleges. Hmmm...can he "lose" something he doesn't have in 1936? Well, he probably would have if he had been alive at the time. Irrelevant in Jimmie's case. He "lived" there and then, and is One with the Great Spirit or Radio or something. Maybe someone loaded up his Kester Tri-Core solder with peyote? I'm reminded of having been called a "liar" because I said that Michael Deignan had 12 amateur radio licenses. I was wrong. Michael Deignan's wife had one of them, at same address (at that time). Mike only had 11. I believe Riley then whittled it down to 3. But I'm a "liar." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Gotta love these guys. Heh heh, that "love" is "tough." :-) Being 11/12th right makes one a "LIAR!" Good 'ol "new math!" :-) [neither] New math nor Jim's math would have gotten us to the Moon. A mere quarter million miles? :-) I'm waiting for Jimmie to "reach the threshold of space" let alone working a station ON the moon or even doing moonbounce comms. :-) Had we done Jimmie's "advancing the state of the art" in space, we would still be at White Sands, launching the very last of the German V-2s to reach up 250 miles above the Earth surface. Yeah, I remember Mikey D's little missives in here, his adventures with the (?) "radio commandos." Mikey ain't got them dozen club calls no more. How about that? Riley allowed the Radio Commando's to live on. Their "enlistment rate" was extremely low. "A Commando Unit of One" Mikey D. was a non-server of one as well... Mebbe they disbanded and now hang out at the local VFW? In "thier" wildest dreams. Well..., maybe as a guest. Maybe if the fraternity renamed itself "Veterans of FANTASY Wars?" Dudly the Imposter could run for Grand Poobah. But at the first hint how they "served in other ways..." Yes, I know...they CLAM UP. Silence. Sounds "fishy." Brian, here's a KEEPER for an EXACT QUOTE. On December 10, 2005, Jimmie write the following: "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." Exact, word for word. :-) Good Grief!!! I wonder if being right 0/12 merits the label "liar?" No. In Jimmie's case he is ALWAYS right, no matter if he makes a typographical error or not, therefore can NEVER LIE. I just hope he has a license to drive all that pure snow around Brand new license issued by the FAA. Anyone else who makes a typo is AUTOMATICALLY a LIAR all the time, "constantly making mistakes and errors!" Tha's Steve's job. Dudly and Noserve are competitors? Len and Brian, If you are going to give direct quotes of what someone allegedly wrote, you should use the exact words they wrote. That's what "direct quote" means. Jim, please feel free to provide a direct quote. Well, I think I obliged Jimmie with the destined-to-become-classic faux pas of his. Here it is again (from 10 Dec 05): "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." He might be right. Do you think the FCC outsourced licensing to India? Wow! I never thought of that! You may be on to something! Recall the '98 NPRM? Do you think that was the work of an EFL or ESL? Speaking seriously, I don't see that either 98-143 nor the resulting FCC 99-412 Memorandum Report and Order were all that bad as regulatory items. The U.S. amateur rules had reached a Gordian Knot of complexity of Byzantine license classes and morris goad testing on the eve of the new millennium and it was time to unravel the Knot. Too many old-timers in the amateur radio hobby had become victims of their own delusions of grandeur...wanting to be "professional amateurs" with all the rank-status-title-privilege that had been politically lobbied for by guess-who in the regulations. He can't understand that other people read the entirety of his boasting claims of doing more than others and doing it oh-so-much-better. The fact is that you were both shown to be wrong and now you're trying to tapdance away from the fact that you misguoted me. Tapdance? Jim, please feel free to provide a direct quote. Really. Can we have some accompanyment to the time-steps? :-) Rogers&Astair Gone..."silent taps." Gregory Hines, greatest of the tap men..."silent taps." Jim Fixx, multiple author of books on running...gone. I guess we'll have to settle for a metronome. The Great Radio Spirit visits Jimmie regularly to "wind up" his newsgroup metronome. I think that happens whenever his QST arrives in the mail. To paraphrase: "Little ideas made of ticky-tocky." Here's a DIRECT QUOTE again (from Jimmie on 10 Dec 05): "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." Good Grief! Jimmie wrote that, he did... Perhaps he thinks the FCC hires civilians and puts them to work. Then after sufficient time has passed, the FCC says the applicant has "earned" "thier" license. Jimmie needs the spirit of the late John Houseman of the "Paper Trail" TV show..."we did it the old-fashioned way, we EARNED it!" Geez, all that foo-fah-rah over "The TEST!" The law establishes a licensing system and folks are required to pass a license test (sort of like hunting and fishing licenses) in order to be legal about their activity. No, passing it becomes A RITE OF PASSAGE or the equivalent of a PhD Thesis or some kind of SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCE! Too many hams have established a lot of bull**** ju-ju to the test and the resulting rank-status-title-privilege. Or even better, you could explain how one "serves in other ways." Always from the right of the patron? The lady first? Perhaps he could get a hand towel with his callsign embroidered on it to carry across his forearm. It's better than the callsign tattooed across the knuckles of each hand... Jim has tatoos? I was imagining his performances in here to be the equivalent of James Mitchum's creepy "preacher" in an old, scary black-and-white film released in the 1950s. That character had L-O-V-E on one hand, H-A-T-E on the other...liked to off folks that didn't believe in him. Gosh, we may have to get Jimmie an "Etty-Kit" so he can serve properly and correctly! He's already been to charm school. He must have flunked out...of that correspondence school... Hopefully the VA recovered that GI Bill money. "VA?" "GI Bill?" None of those applied to Jimmie Noserve. Since Dudly can't prove he served anyplace, I doubt that Dud could could have gotten any GI bill other than from a military store for buying all those old medals. Real estate chatter snipped. Pity that. Jimmie KNOWS ALL ABOUT the "basis and purpose" of local zoning ordinances. We can say nothing about zoning until Jimmie gets us all "zoned" out of this world and into another realm of existance. Twilight Zone? There is no subject that Jim can't pretend to speak intelligently on. True. Sadly true by demonstration. "A Morse Code Exam would be a Barrier to Morse Code Use." "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." Verbatim quotes from Jimmie... |
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From: on Tues, Dec 13 2005 4:32 pm Jim has tatoos? I was imagining his performances in here to be the equivalent of James Mitchum's creepy "preacher" in an old, scary black-and-white film released in the 1950s. Robert Mitchum. 1954. Night of the Hunter from the novel by Davis Grubb. The author was from up the road in Moundsville. The story is set in this area. That character had L-O-V-E on one hand, H-A-T-E on the other...liked to off folks that didn't believe in him. Believing in him had nothing to do with it. He killed prostitutes and dancers because he thought they were evil and he killed widows for their money. The guy wasn't even a real preacher. Don't you get anything right? Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: on Tues, Dec 13 2005 4:32 pm Jim has tatoos? I was imagining his performances in here to be the equivalent of James Mitchum's creepy "preacher" in an old, scary black-and-white film released in the 1950s. Robert Mitchum. 1954. Night of the Hunter from the novel by Davis Grubb. The author was from up the road in Moundsville. The story is set in this area. That character had L-O-V-E on one hand, H-A-T-E on the other...liked to off folks that didn't believe in him. Believing in him had nothing to do with it. He killed prostitutes and dancers because he thought they were evil and he killed widows for their money. The guy wasn't even a real preacher. Don't you get anything right? Dave K8MN Did they ever catch him, or is he still running around the hills of Moundsville? Was he a ham preacher? |
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KØHB wrote: wrote WE see NO DD-214 image from Dudly. Where is it? We see none from you, Brian, or me either. Maybe we're all imposters? Even more preposterious, we were all in seven hostile actions together and met at the USO Show wherewe were entertained by Quitefine and Darkguard "performing in other ways." Then we all retired over two years early. No wonder we haven't posted our 214's. Hi! |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:15:43 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote in et: wrote WE see NO DD-214 image from Dudly. Where is it? We see none from you, Brian, or me either. Maybe we're all imposters? Sunuvagun! de Hans, K0HB I haven't been in the group for very long but I haven't seen any reason to question your claim of military service. Dudly, OTOH, has provided -many- reasons to doubt his USMC 'career', and now also his EMT 'career'. But you -have- provided a reason to question -your- interest in this discussion: Why, after declaring that you are not going to get drawn into this "game", do you continue to poke your beak into it? Did you also lie about your military service? Or are you jealous of all the attention Dudly is getting? Or trying to draw some fire away from a fellow nacho-cheese addict? Or just trying to shake your seasonal depression by starting a newsgroup skirmish? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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wrote: From: on Dec 12, 3:34 pm wrote: From: on Dec 11, 8:08 pm wrote: K0HB wrote: "Dee Flint" wrote That's what makes the IARU an attractive vehicle. While no individual pays memberships dues in IARU, all hams are defacto members of IARU because each country has a representative who represents ALL hams in their jurisdiction independent of whether they are members of the national "club" like ARRL, RAC, RSGB, DARC, JARL, or whatever. But there's a big problem there....see below You always know better than everyone else. See below. Tsk, we've seen it many, many times... :-( So much so that it's predictable. ;^) Heh heh heh. (profile) But do the actual users get a real voice? Do I get to vote on the bandplan for bands I use? Do I even get to elect the representative who does? Didn't Carl attend the last ITU meeting? Didn't the ARRL attend? Didn't the FCC attend? How much representation do you need, Jim? Himself in the Chairman's chair? Maybe they should send FISTS to the meeting. ...the man with the Golden Glove... Flying Fickle Finger of Fate. Or will the bandplans be decided upon by folks whom are even less beholden to "the users" than the FCC? Benevolent King Jim will rule intelligently and fairly. [as long as he gets his way...] He says he's not a King, but with one sweep of his hand, Amateur Radio would be stagnant for the next 38 years. In the 1930's that certainly would have been an impediment. But 75 years later in 2005, give me a list of 100 IARU representatives and within the next hour I can establish a secure and private "meeting room" on the internet where they can hold their allocation meetings, hammer out their agreements, and publish the bandplan on a global basis before halftime of Monday Night Football. And here's the problem: Let me sit down and pour a stiff drink. I think I'll join you in that since Hans had to jump in and CORRECT a "relationship" of ITU and IARU where the ITU was brought up by yourself only in a passing remark and not dwelled on... :-( Some just need more representation than others. ...and I slip a note to Hans suggesting he change the "hour" to "24 hours" to accommodate the international time zones of the IARU... There are three ITU regions, so the clock divided by three leaves each region with an 8 hour window of opportunity, though it may take Hans only one hour to setup the conf. call. I don't know that "conference calls" are needed either. With tossing e-mail back and forth, it wouldn't take longer than a week and nobody has to physically travel to an in-person meeting...nor pay any per diem. Perfect. Hammer out the details on Coslo's BBS. If tried in an 8-hour period that leaves out 16 hours for two-thirds of the globe. Nobody gonna get "friendly" if they have to be up between 11 PM through 7 AM the next day LOCALLY. Hans better get the coffee going in the Geedunk. Does each member country get one vote? If so, that puts the USA, with its 661,000+ amateurs, at the same voting level as a country with a few dozen amateurs. A coalition of small countries with a handful of amateurs could dictate the bandplan for whole region. Oh, my. I hope that the US hams have treated "thier" neighbor hams kindly. If King Jim has so decreed, they have. Meanwhile there's a large crowd who've just dropped the drawbridge and are storming the castle. King Jim may have to abdicate to a simple white "throne." Certainly he can "serve" in his own Kingdom? Yes, but his "kingdom" will have shrunk fantastically in population. A desireable outcome in his kingdom? If not, the USA's enormous amateur population makes us the de-facto 800 pound gorilla in the region. Can't we all just get along? King Kong made it to the top of the Empire State building, then had a big fall. You might say Kong "went ape" when he couldn't get what he wanted. I thought he wanted the pretty girl? So does King Jim. Maybe if he shaves all over...? Remember, we're talking King Kong, so nowhere have we used a diminuitive. Helluva big disposal problem for NYC. The same for the fantasies of all those morsemen who want their private little playground at the expense of others. Well, those guys are biodegradeable also... No sharing of spectrum? Not for the elite morsemen extras. Friendly bunch. In either case, the IARU member society for the USA is...the ARRL. Which is why it's so important to keep movers and shakers like Carl out of the organization's management. God rest ye, league gentlemen, let nothing you dismay... I suspect that Carl will "serve in other ways." ;^)) He already is and has...with the pros. Yup. But I think his days of serving the amateur community are far from over. Oooops, I said a nasty in this group of morsemen...! |
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KØHB wrote: wrote Didn't Carl attend the last ITU meeting? Didn't the ARRL attend? Didn't the FCC attend? Who cares? We aren't talking about ITU. We're talking about IARU. They're unrelated entities. Beep beep de Hans, K0HB Do you really believe that? |
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote But you -have- provided a reason to question -your- interest in this discussion: Why, after declaring that you are not going to get drawn into this "game", do you continue to poke your beak into it? Because it's so much fun to watch you and Len twitch and snarl when I jerk that chain. Next question? Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:22:23 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote in . net: "Frank Gilliland" wrote But you -have- provided a reason to question -your- interest in this discussion: Why, after declaring that you are not going to get drawn into this "game", do you continue to poke your beak into it? Because it's so much fun to watch you and Len twitch and snarl when I jerk that chain. You do know there are some very effecive treatments for SADD these days, don't you? Next question? I'll wait until Spring. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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wrote Do you really believe that? Gee, do ya think that the ITU is a member of the IARU? Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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"Lloyd's Pizza Pub" wrote in message ... Hey Hans, have you decided if you are going to wear your uniform to the Legion Christmas party yet? Only if your Mama does lap dances like she did at last years party. |
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From: K0HB on Dec 14, 5:15 pm
wrote WE see NO DD-214 image from Dudly. Where is it? We see none from you, Brian, or me either. Maybe we're all imposters? http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf http://www.estripes.com [go to Archives and 10 Nov 02] Harold Hallikainen's website underwent a reorganization change in late October and my 10 MB PDF was there before that. The Pacific Stars and Stripes interview took place in 2002, most of it via e-mail with reporter Rick Chernitzer. The first one is 20 pages and has lots of photos, a few of which are me as I was back then. Lots more of equipment that I OPERATED. There's three MORE papers on Harold's website, all generated and uploaded by myself. If you wish to get anal-retentive on this, I can forward my digitized DD-214 and my digitized Honorable Discharge paper as further proof. I really don't see WHY but then some "managers" get up-tight about lots of little matters. WHAT HAVE WE SEEN FROM DUDLY THE IMPOSTER (ada K4YZ)? NOT *ONE* THING NO DIGITIZED DOCUMENTS OF ANY KIND FROM THE USMC. NOT EVEN A SNAPSHOT OF HIM SOME TIME IN 18 YEARS OF "service" with the USMC. Sunuvagun! What the FORK do you NEED for proof? A Power-Point Presentation? Courier-hand-delivered, notarized documents? As far as I'm concerned, the FBI, the CIA, the DIA, the IRS, Nuclear Regulatory Agency, the Social Security Administration, DCAS, Franchise Tax Board of California, and several large corporations have already accepted my presenting - hand- carried - copies of my military service records which they have independently checked to federal archives. Stick that "imposter" charge up your I/O port super chief. ex-RA16408336 |
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wrote Stick that "imposter" charge up your I/O port super chief. Testy, testy, testy! Go sip some nice port to calm your frazzled nerves. Wasn't "charging" you with any UCMJ violation, just observing that you have posted just as much of your DD214 here as I have or Brian has or Steve has. In other words, exactly none. Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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From: K0HB on Dec 14, 5:15 pm wrote WE see NO DD-214 image from Dudly. Where is it? We see none from you, Brian, or me either. Maybe we're all imposters? http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf http://www.estripes.com [go to Archives and 10 Nov 02] Harold Hallikainen's website underwent a reorganization change in late October and my 10 MB PDF was there before that. The Pacific Stars and Stripes interview took place in 2002, most of it via e-mail with reporter Rick Chernitzer. The first one is 20 pages and has lots of photos, a few of which are me as I was back then. Lots more of equipment that I OPERATED. There's three MORE papers on Harold's website, all generated and uploaded by myself. If you wish to get anal-retentive on this, I can forward my digitized DD-214 and my digitized Honorable Discharge paper as further proof. I really don't see WHY but then some "managers" get up-tight about lots of little matters. WHAT HAVE WE SEEN FROM DUDLY THE IMPOSTER (ada K4YZ)? NOT *ONE* THING NO DIGITIZED DOCUMENTS OF ANY KIND FROM THE USMC. NOT EVEN A SNAPSHOT OF HIM SOME TIME IN 18 YEARS OF "service" with the USMC. Sunuvagun! What the FORK do you NEED for proof? A Power-Point Presentation? Courier-hand-delivered, notarized documents? As far as I'm concerned, the FBI, the CIA, the DIA, the IRS, Nuclear Regulatory Agency, the Social Security Administration, DCAS, Franchise Tax Board of California, and several large corporations have already accepted my presenting - hand- carried - copies of my military service records which they have independently checked to federal archives. Stick that "imposter" charge up your I/O port super chief. ex-RA16408336 Your rant has been read. It all begs the question: So what? Dave K8MN |
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message nk.net... wrote: From: K0HB on Dec 14, 5:15 pm wrote WE see NO DD-214 image from Dudly. Where is it? We see none from you, Brian, or me either. Maybe we're all imposters? http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf http://www.estripes.com [go to Archives and 10 Nov 02] Harold Hallikainen's website underwent a reorganization change in late October and my 10 MB PDF was there before that. The Pacific Stars and Stripes interview took place in 2002, most of it via e-mail with reporter Rick Chernitzer. The first one is 20 pages and has lots of photos, a few of which are me as I was back then. Lots more of equipment that I OPERATED. There's three MORE papers on Harold's website, all generated and uploaded by myself. If you wish to get anal-retentive on this, I can forward my digitized DD-214 and my digitized Honorable Discharge paper as further proof. I really don't see WHY but then some "managers" get up-tight about lots of little matters. WHAT HAVE WE SEEN FROM DUDLY THE IMPOSTER (ada K4YZ)? NOT *ONE* THING NO DIGITIZED DOCUMENTS OF ANY KIND FROM THE USMC. NOT EVEN A SNAPSHOT OF HIM SOME TIME IN 18 YEARS OF "service" with the USMC. Sunuvagun! What the FORK do you NEED for proof? A Power-Point Presentation? Courier-hand-delivered, notarized documents? As far as I'm concerned, the FBI, the CIA, the DIA, the IRS, Nuclear Regulatory Agency, the Social Security Administration, DCAS, Franchise Tax Board of California, and several large corporations have already accepted my presenting - hand- carried - copies of my military service records which they have independently checked to federal archives. Stick that "imposter" charge up your I/O port super chief. ex-RA16408336 Your rant has been read. It all begs the question: So what? Dave K8MN Actually, that sums up virtually all the posts here. None should be taken seriously. They are just the frustrations of old white hams, except for Roger, who is mentally wacko. Lloyd |
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do they play Anchors Aweigh, when you enter the bar at the Legion Hall? Lloyd |
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On 13 Dec 2005 09:05:49 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Dec 9, 6:28 pm wrote: wrote: Jim, is this what you meant when you said that you "served in other ways?" Brian, You have written that phrase as a direct quote, and attributed it to me. Where have I written that I 'served in other ways'? So you haven't "served in other ways?" September 24, 2004; Nope. I did not write that I "served in other ways" on that date. "Nope." January 13, February 10, May 25 2005. Nope, nope, and nope again. I did not write that I "served in other ways" on any of those dates either. "Nope, nope, and nope again." You're starting to sound like Steve. Everyone else gets everything wrong. If you're wrong, Brain, you're wrong. true aenough but brain isn't always wrong none is always wrong not even you Why do you and the Feeble Five have a hard time with that simple concept? we don't you do Len, if you had actually *read* what I wrote on those days, you'd know that. What I have written is a question for you and others. Can you answer your own question? Can you answer mine about why you've used diminutives against Jim when he's never used them on you? becuase he felt they made a proper reply that reasonis good enough for to comit FORGERY over Here it is again: Is service in the military the only way a citizen can serve our country? Or are there other ways? A rhetorical question? You wanted an answer? Or were you implying that you "served in other ways?" Can you answer your own question, or are you going to leave it up to us Veterans of low-intelligence who got duped by "The Man" to act as cannon fodder in exchange for a chance at an education? Again with the self-victimizing, Brain. And a very, VERY poor suggestion that Jim said anything of the kind. Steve, K4YZ everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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From: K0HB on Dec 14, 9:18 pm
wrote Stick that "imposter" charge up your I/O port super chief. Testy, testy, testy! Go sip some nice port to calm your frazzled nerves. No, I'll not put into your port, superchief. It's "so much fun to see you twitch and snarl" when I poke the 100 W American Beauty iron into your gluteus maximus. :-) Wasn't "charging" you with any UCMJ violation, just observing that you have posted just as much of your DD214 here as I have or Brian has or Steve has. In other words, exactly none. Tsk, tsk, tsk. As the self-appointed Chef of Navel Operations your oven was set on too-high and you burned all the tool house cookies. I haven't "posted a thing in here" for the simple reason this newsgroup does NOT accept binaries. [look it up] Neither can you "charge me with a UCMJ violation" since that UCMJ hasn't applied to me since 1960. However, I have, and Frank Gilliland has, posted considerable material ELSEWHERE (free downloading) which is prima facie evidence that WE indeed did serve...at the times we gave and doing the things we have said we did. Here is mine again: http://sujan.hallikainen.org/RadioBr...s/My3Years.pdf Frank has already posted links to his uploads. The Pacific Stars and Stripes military newspaper has its own website. No stories about "SUQ"-ing anything or high-speed morse nor of saving the fleet in the Persian Gulf nor of being "hot****s" with a code key. Just quiet massive military communications, over three dozen high-power HF transmitters, doing the Army Signal Corps' job of "getting the message through" 24/7. A part of the military that wasn't glamorous, didn't wear flashy or cute uniforms, and bore the brunt of national defense as it always has since 1776...with the casualty rates the highest of any branch, from battlefields of Pennsylvania to the Persian Gulf area of Dubya's rule. Has Dudly the Imposter (aka "K4YZ") EVER posted ANYTHING ANYHWERE about his glorious heroic 18 years of USMC "service" in "seven hostile actions?" NO. A resounding NO! Yet, you want to blabber on with nit-picky forms procedure on "not having a DD-214 anywhere." Tsk, just how much do you demand of all others? Besides "hotshot morse op" stories that is? Sorry, I don't have any such stories...never used any morse code at anytime in the last 52 years...haven't been required to. But...it is "perfectly okay" to let Dudly the Imposter go on and on. Never mind that he shames the entire U.S. military establishment. Never mind that he doesn't speak well for the "highest class" of United States amateur radio. He's an extra and he's okay... "Twitchings away, me boys, twitchings away..." [Monty Python?] |
Definitely Not Qualified
From: "K0HB" on Thurs, Dec 15 2005 3:22 am
"Frank Gilliland" wrote But you -have- provided a reason to question -your- interest in this discussion: Why, after declaring that you are not going to get drawn into this "game", do you continue to poke your beak into it? Because it's so much fun to watch you and Len twitch and snarl when I jerkthat chain. ...and it give you a chance to relate your "hotshot CW op" stories all about how good you were with morsemanship as radio hero of some fleet or other IN the Persian Gulf area. Hey, why don't you take down your "bragging rights" certificate as one of the senior morse hot shots and digitize it, make it available to all of us to see and admire and gush over? Meanwhile, some USMC IMPOSTER runs around in here, boasting and hollering and insulting others, yet hasn't supplied ONE proof of anything. That one is an amateur extra. One of your brethren. It's like a bad Monty Python skit..."he's an extra and he's okay." Next question? Was there one? I thought this was a morseblog where the only acceptible "discussions" were the glory days of morsemanship. Put your blindfold back on and tune those bands, hunting for the "relaxing" distinction between General-Advanced-Superextras. I'm sure you can read the frequency display with your eyes shut. You read some of these posts with your eyes shut... :-( |
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