wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

HyperLog extract station K0HB
(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:
(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).

Apology accepted. You worked the K8MN FD operation from here a few
years back and we worked during SS CW in 1980.

73,

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

HyperLog extract station K0HB
(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:
(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).

Apology accepted. You worked the K8MN FD operation from here a few
years back and we worked during SS CW in 1980.

73,

Dave K8MN

Just amazing!!!

I forget you on a list of A-1 Ops, and you play 18 rounds of guessing
games with declarations that I'm wrong. Jim leaves you off of his list
and you pop right up and provide the information.

Who says the PCTA double-standard isn't alive and well?

I guess the only other thing this shows is that Dave is a pretty
forgettable guy.

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.
Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

HyperLog extract station K0HB
(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:
(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).
Apology accepted. You worked the K8MN FD operation from here a few
years back and we worked during SS CW in 1980.

73,

Dave K8MN

Just amazing!!!

I forget you on a list of A-1 Ops, and you play 18 rounds of guessing
games with declarations that I'm wrong.

You had a different kind of list, didn't you? Didn't yours read, "K8MN
is not an A-1 Op" or something to that effect?

Jim leaves you off of his list
and you pop right up and provide the information.

Who says the PCTA double-standard isn't alive and well?

You go right on playing the little red-hatted monkey. Jim's list wasn't
an attempt at an insult and he apologized in advance for anyone left
off. Did you do that? Was your list an attempt at an insult?

I guess the only other thing this shows is that Dave is a pretty
forgettable guy.

I disagree, Brian. I'd say it shows you as a little red-hatted monkey
with a chip on his shoulder. You're nothing but consistent.

Dave K8MN

From: on Sat 19 Nov 2005 07:07


Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:

And another thing. Jim, Dave, and Mike just might have been able to
pull Steve back from the brink with a little intervention. But no.
They sanctioned his lunacy by "thier" silence.

I have "another thing" for you, Brian: "Jim, Dave and Mike" are no more
responsible for posts other than their own, than you are responsible for
Mark's, Len Anderson's or Roger Wiseman's.

Never said that you were responsible.

You pointed to us as having had some obligation to pull Steve back from
some brink you've manufactured.

I'm not in manufacturing.

Davie thinks he is Shop Foreman and all work for him...keep
those morse machines working in the factory!


I hope that clears things up for you.

Hope that clears things up for you.

No, it didn't do that at all. If we aren't responsible for Steve's
actions (making them what *you* think they should be), why would we have
pulled him back?

I'm not responsible for other people's kids, but I donate to Toys for
Tots.

I'm not responsible for the neighbors dog biting another neighbor's
kid, but I pulled the dog off.

Do you see how it works? Not my responsibility, but it was the right
thing to do.

Brian, the only thing that matters to Davie is that "the right
thing to do" is what Davie says it is.


But you're a pretty worthless friend to Steve for seeing him carry on
the way he does and saying nothing.

It's hard to say something in a forum where all we have is the written
word.

Even harder when the written word is encoded in dits and dahs, but many
here want it MANDATED.

Davie took and passed the 20 WPM code test, therefore all others
have to do the same thing in order to be his "equal." He
condescends to allow "lesser" beings (who passed 5 or 13 WPM
tests) to coexist in his universe but has utter contempt for any
who have not.

Davie likes his exclusivity of status-rank-title since it makes
him "superior" to others. Therefore he demands that code
testing MUST be retained in federal regulations for the licensing
of amateur radio hobbyists. That is very important to his IMAGE.

Have you written anything to bring your friend Mark Morgan back
to reality?

Reality? How am I supposed to do that. I'm not a medical
professional. ;^)

Neither is Davie. But, I think he plays one on TV. :-)

Perhaps the most effective course of action would be for Steve to get
off Mark's ass and quit calling around Mark's county.

Too easy. Congenital bullies LIKE what they do to others.

What have you written to Len toward straightening him out?

I've said he's too hard on you guys.

"Straightening me out?" :-)

I'm a congenital heterosexual, freely admitting that. :-)

Davie sounds like he is a raving ultra-conservative
morseodist with all his proselyte activity "batter-ying"
everyone to keep the code test forever and ever.

Must be electro-chemistry at work. His liquid proselyte
tries to cause a reaction. Alas, none. His "cold fusion"
sputters its fuse and it goes out...

All I've noted here is you egging him on. Some friend *you* are.

Aw, geez. Some of the greatest fun I've had on here was the Hop
Sing-speak; english as a first and second language. It was only
funny because Steve got so upset over it.

Gonna call my wife, gotta show my kids! There's a guy that takes
himself much too seriously.

Woe be unto the sanctimonious self-righteous cultists, for
they have not developed any sense of humor. Their "humor"
consists solely of enjoyment of humiliating others.

Is that the double standard you're always going on about?

OK, Dave, I get your point.

Notice to Len: Start playing nice with these guys when they start
playing nice with you.

I'm waiting patiently for that to happen...hasn't yet.

My duty as a friend to Len and good citizen of RRAP is now satisfied.

Roger that, and thank you Brian...

Your turn, Dave.

Fork Davie...I think he's done...

wrote:
From: on Sat 19 Nov 2005 07:07


Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:

And another thing. Jim, Dave, and Mike just might have been able to
pull Steve back from the brink with a little intervention. But no.
They sanctioned his lunacy by "thier" silence.

I have "another thing" for you, Brian: "Jim, Dave and Mike" are no more
responsible for posts other than their own, than you are responsible for
Mark's, Len Anderson's or Roger Wiseman's.

Never said that you were responsible.

You pointed to us as having had some obligation to pull Steve back from
some brink you've manufactured.

I'm not in manufacturing.

Davie thinks he is Shop Foreman and all work for him...keep
those morse machines working in the factory!


I hope that clears things up for you.

Hope that clears things up for you.

No, it didn't do that at all. If we aren't responsible for Steve's
actions (making them what *you* think they should be), why would we have
pulled him back?

I'm not responsible for other people's kids, but I donate to Toys for
Tots.

I'm not responsible for the neighbors dog biting another neighbor's
kid, but I pulled the dog off.

Do you see how it works? Not my responsibility, but it was the right
thing to do.

Brian, the only thing that matters to Davie is that "the right
thing to do" is what Davie says it is.


But you're a pretty worthless friend to Steve for seeing him carry on
the way he does and saying nothing.

It's hard to say something in a forum where all we have is the written
word.

Even harder when the written word is encoded in dits and dahs, but many
here want it MANDATED.

Davie took and passed the 20 WPM code test, therefore all others
have to do the same thing in order to be his "equal." He
condescends to allow "lesser" beings (who passed 5 or 13 WPM
tests) to coexist in his universe but has utter contempt for any
who have not.

Davie likes his exclusivity of status-rank-title since it makes
him "superior" to others. Therefore he demands that code
testing MUST be retained in federal regulations for the licensing
of amateur radio hobbyists. That is very important to his IMAGE.

Have you written anything to bring your friend Mark Morgan back
to reality?

Reality? How am I supposed to do that. I'm not a medical
professional. ;^)

Neither is Davie. But, I think he plays one on TV. :-)

Perhaps the most effective course of action would be for Steve to get
off Mark's ass and quit calling around Mark's county.

Too easy. Congenital bullies LIKE what they do to others.

What have you written to Len toward straightening him out?

I've said he's too hard on you guys.

"Straightening me out?" :-)

I'm a congenital heterosexual, freely admitting that. :-)

Davie sounds like he is a raving ultra-conservative
morseodist with all his proselyte activity "batter-ying"
everyone to keep the code test forever and ever.

Must be electro-chemistry at work. His liquid proselyte
tries to cause a reaction. Alas, none. His "cold fusion"
sputters its fuse and it goes out...

All I've noted here is you egging him on. Some friend *you* are.

Aw, geez. Some of the greatest fun I've had on here was the Hop
Sing-speak; english as a first and second language. It was only
funny because Steve got so upset over it.

Gonna call my wife, gotta show my kids! There's a guy that takes
himself much too seriously.

Woe be unto the sanctimonious self-righteous cultists, for
they have not developed any sense of humor. Their "humor"
consists solely of enjoyment of humiliating others.

Is that the double standard you're always going on about?

OK, Dave, I get your point.

Notice to Len: Start playing nice with these guys when they start
playing nice with you.

I'm waiting patiently for that to happen...hasn't yet.

My duty as a friend to Len and good citizen of RRAP is now satisfied.

Roger that, and thank you Brian...

Your turn, Dave.

Fork Davie...I think he's done...



Dave just called me names again in his response above. And I thought
he was ready to turn over a forest of new leaves. bb

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote

We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.

Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

Third option:

In 'phone operation, some hams and others refer to themselves
as "we" on the air. As in "We were listening on 3885 last night
and heard the Timtron trying out a new PW rig" or "Yes,
Claude, we saw the new Annihilator 2000 at Dayton but frankly
it's really just a repackaged Pulverizer 1000 costing 50% more"
and such.

Morse Code operators never use the plural to refer to themselves
alone.

When pressed for a reason to use the plural, some respond that
"we" refers to 'the station and the operator', thereby
anthropomorphizing the rig to degree that is rather extreme.

So perhaps Len is referring to himself and his radio when he
uses the term 'we'. IOW, when Len wrote:

"We have NOT seen"

he was referring to himself and his classic, compact Johnson.

HyperLog extract station K0HB
(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:
(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).

Apology accepted. You worked the K8MN FD operation from here a few
years back and we worked during SS CW in 1980.

DOH! Sorry, Dave! There's probably a couple more I've worked, too, such
as AT4ST (Arnie) and K3LT.

---

Say, your imagery of the lodge hall reminded me of these classic lines
of prose:

"The fire in the shack of the .....radio station burned low and
conversation lagged. .....Lazy, feathery flakes, beginning at midnight,
had changed to a fine, peppery mist swirling in from the north, and the
wind moaned down the chimney in icy cadences."

"...was the chief operator and and wore sterling crossed bars of chain
lightning on the shoulder of his navy blue jersey. There was no greater
this side of Heaven..."

"Five minutes passed with only the wind, the old clock, and the keying
relay breaking the silence."

"....and touched the knob timidly. The shadow scale above it moved
slightly. How easily it turned! Encouraged, he moved it a little more.
A faint hiss which had begun to evidence itself in the dynamic speaker
was at that instant ripped asunder by a kaleidescope of crisp,
bell-like signals..."

"Thousands of miles of black, tumbling ocean intervened. Outside, the
two great towers, outlined irregularly in white, rose up and up into
the swirling snow; downstairs the input reactors sang monotonously in
the ghastly glow of the rectifiers......imparted a dull radiance to the
the polished edges of the neutralizing condenser discs. All were
waiting, ready to hurl the dynamite."

73 de Jim, N2EY

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Say, your imagery of the lodge hall reminded me of these classic lines
of prose:

"The fire in the shack of the .....radio station burned low and
conversation lagged. .....Lazy, feathery flakes, beginning at midnight,
had changed to a fine, peppery mist swirling in from the north, and the
wind moaned down the chimney in icy cadences."

"...was the chief operator and and wore sterling crossed bars of chain
lightning on the shoulder of his navy blue jersey. There was no greater
this side of Heaven..."

"Five minutes passed with only the wind, the old clock, and the keying
relay breaking the silence."

"....and touched the knob timidly. The shadow scale above it moved
slightly. How easily it turned! Encouraged, he moved it a little more.
A faint hiss which had begun to evidence itself in the dynamic speaker
was at that instant ripped asunder by a kaleidescope of crisp,
bell-like signals..."

"Thousands of miles of black, tumbling ocean intervened. Outside, the
two great towers, outlined irregularly in white, rose up and up into
the swirling snow; downstairs the input reactors sang monotonously in
the ghastly glow of the rectifiers......imparted a dull radiance to the
the polished edges of the neutralizing condenser discs. All were
waiting, ready to hurl the dynamite."

Thanks for recognizing J.C.'s style in my stuff. 'Twas intentional.

73,

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:

Thanks for recognizing J.C.'s style in my stuff. 'Twas intentional.

Unmistakeable, too. Well done.

Now back to recopying the SS logs.

73 de Jim, N2EY