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Dave Heil wrote:
Hmmm. There is no doubt that had Britain taken this war seriously it would have won it. Sure, sure. Your historical revisionism is a needed face-saving measure. Ah yes of course, you'll be telling us next that America wasn't defeated in Vietnam...oh wait. Whats next? Afghanistan attacked America? Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? No torture in Guantanamo? America defeats Britain in the War of 1812. Ho Ho! I suppose you'll be telling us next the White House was torched by aliens? Coventry was fire-bombed. Did you lose WWII? London endured waves of buzz bomb and V2 attacks. Did you lose WWII? The White House was torched after America declared war on Britain which was already involved in a war against another dictator. Did you win the war? No. America was suicide bombed. Have you won the "War against terror"? NO! The United States defeated Britain for the second time in the War of 1812. Of course I can see now where you're coming from. America in yet another war of aggression attacks Great Britain when it thinks its attention is elsewhere and its forces weakened. Even though playing from home Crown Forces successfully repulse the invasion of Canada and go on to burn the nations capital. Having learned from this lesson America decides it is safer to have the UK as an ally rather and an enemy and in future limits its aggression to wars that are already mostly won or the invasion of little 3rd world countries. I'm sure that you can come up with a scenario in which Britain could have won the war if only it had taken it seriously. Yes I can see how an American would equate the buring of his capital and seat of power along with several repulsed invasions of Canada as a victory. Only a typical yank could equate the ending of the war as a victory. America pulls Britain's fat from the fire in WWI. America came into the war when it was all but won and 3 years after it started. Its troops played only a minor but crucial role. America saw the potential for profit and a chance to increase its sphere of influence for little effort, Britain on the other hand went to war in defence of its allies. All but won? Little had changed in the three years of WWI. It was largely back and forth, back and forth in the same muddy fields. When the war ended the best army in the field was unquestionably the British and it was largely the British who made the sweeping gains of the last days. The Americans did bugger all even when the war was in danger of being lost early in 1918. America pulls Britain's fat from the fire in WWII. Once again America enters the war late and only for profit. There's more historical revisionism. That Marshall Plan was a big money making scheme, was it? Lease lend certainly was. Britain entered the war yet again in defence of its Allies. America was the only country to end the war richer than when it started. ...and I see that it chafes you. How rich you'd have been under German domination! What German domination? Unaided by America the UK thwarted for all time Hitlers plans to invade. Post WWII finds the British Empire in eclipse. Indeed. Two world wars cost Britain an Empire. I thought I'd pointed that out. No you didn't. I pointed out that it took two world wars of selfless British action to end the Empire. Six out for twenty-two overs, Toad-in-a-hole and Bob's your uncle. Is that about it? No its about the dollar pure and simple. Why don't you go and research how many wars of aggression America has waged? Name me one time America has gone to war in defence of its allies please. I've already done so. No you haven't because if you had there'd by no way you'd label the American War of 1812 a victory. And as someone who lives in Northern Ireland I'd like to thank all you Americans for financing decades of terror in my country, in particular I'd like to thank the NYPD and the NYFD who openly financed and supported the IRA. I'll bet that if you bothered to research it, you'd find only a tiny percentage of Americans who act as professional Irishmen donating to that cause. What are you saying? America is a ******* nation? That because of the size of the Irish American vote successive Presidents did nothing to stop it? I personally don't know anyone who provided even a dime. What you personally know or don't know does not change the facts. I'd be willing to bet you don't know anyone who fought in the aggressive war of 1812 yet here you're clearly distorting the facts! Boy didn't they just love it when it became their turn to suffer at the hands of murderers? C'mon. You've got a bunch of grown men who wear bowler hats and their Sunday best, marching in celebration of battles fought eons ago. Get over it. You were fighting each other. That isn't what took place here in 2001. Isn't this thread about battles that were fought eons ago in which you have tried to distort history?! What we had here was a bunch of murdering *******s who would not accept the democratic will of the majority open expressed in free and fair elections who were funded and armed by loony Americans and loony dictators. You should also remember that the freedoms you and I enjoy would not exist but for the victories celebrated by these marches. -- Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge |
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