N9OGL wrote:
The Federal Communication Commissions (FCC) needs to changed the
amateur radio rules to allow a more flexable in regards to allow
amateurs the
ability to experiment, and remove rules that are outdated.

Rules that need to be changed

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§97.113 Prohibited transmissions.

(a) No amateur station shall transmit:

(5) Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be
furnished alternatively through other radio services.

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There is no indication from you as to why this rule is "outdated". Why
would anyone want to change this regulation?


§97.113 Prohibited transmissions.

(a) No amateur station shall transmit:

messages in codes or ciphers intended to obscure the meaning thereof,
except as therwise provided herein;

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There is no indication from you as to why this rule is "outdated". Why
would anyone want to change this regulation?

Dave K8MN

There is no indication from you as to why this rule is "outdated". Why
would anyone want to change this regulation?
Dave K8MN


Because although code and cipher can be used to obscure the meaning,
they can also be used for practical purposes which are not yet
investigated. The rule was created back in the 30's for the simply
reason, which holds today, the goverment view is that although amatuer
help with emergency communication amateur's can't be trusted. Amatuer's
since the very beginning were seen as a threat to national sercuity.
The rule was created to keep "spys" and other foreign govenmental
agencies from using ham radio as a tool to sent classified information
from here back to their native land. I mean what other purpose who this
rule be in place but because of that fact. Now what changes would I
make to this rule?? well I would leave the rule as is however I would
have the rule in manner point to 97.309 (b). 97.309(b) is the rule that
states amateur can use unspecified codes provided they are not used to
obscure the meaning. The problem I'm having is amateur operators who
only look at 97.113(a)(4) and don't look at 97.309(b) and are under the
impression that coding is not allowed.

Todd N9OGL

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:55:06 GMT, Dave Heil wrote:

There is no indication from you as to why this rule is "outdated". Why
would anyone want to change this regulation?

Both of these restrictions are in conformance with the provisions of
the International Radio Regulations to which the US is a signatory.

That's what sets the Amateur Radio Service apart fron other
services. Without them, there would be no amateur service...the
commercial radio folks would make sure of that.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

N9OGL wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

One that should be changed is the one that allows dumbasses like you to
get their license in the first place, Toad.

Then sniveling **** Toad's excuse

Thanks for proving my point, Toad.

cmdr buzz corey wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

One that should be changed is the one that allows dumbasses like you to
get their license in the first place, Toad.

Then what's your ****ing excuse???
Todd N9OGL

Good shot!!

Only a moron like you would think so, Lardass.

Lloyd II wrote:
"cmdr buzz corey" wrote in message
ups.com...

N9OGL wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

One that should be changed is the one that allows dumbasses like you to
get their license in the first place, Toad.

Then what's your ****ing excuse???
Todd N9OGL

Good shot!!

Good for you, Toad. I wanna hear Roger's answer to that one.

Hey Lardass, how does one "hear" a newsgroup post, **** for brains?
It's no wonder you are just a pizza delivery BOY. You lack the
goddamned intellect to do anything else but menial employment, you
mentally ill retard. You see Roger behind every ****ing post. He has
beaten you so badly, king of knob jobs in Alabama Davies.

You are a ****ing imbecile, Toad.

go **** yourself

Todd N9OGL
http://12.156.123.39/azbb/azbb.php

On 19 Dec 2005 06:44:36 -0800, wrote:

Lloyd II wrote:
"cmdr buzz corey" wrote in message
ups.com...

N9OGL wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

One that should be changed is the one that allows dumbasses like you to
get their license in the first place, Toad.

Then what's your ****ing excuse???
Todd N9OGL

Good shot!!

Good for you, Toad. I wanna hear Roger's answer to that one.

Hey Lardass, how does one "hear" a newsgroup post, **** for brains?

You really have to stretch for a comeback, don't you, Woger? But you
still haven't answered Todd's question about your own excuse for
having a license, and you really should do that. Point out to Todd
that you were tested twice, while he was only tested once, and that
your license is therefore twice as good as his.

whiny****_lloydie AKA 2test wrote:
cmdr buzz corey wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

One that should be changed is the one that allows dumbasses like you to
get their license in the first place, Toad.

Then what's your ****ing excuse???
Todd N9OGL

Good shot!!

Only a moron like you would think so, Lardass.

LOL at the Glendale retard!! Better get back to cleaning out those
port-a-potties 2test, Christmas is coming soon and Santa will leave
something in your stocking if you do a good job.