"Ken G." wrote in message
...
Whoever did that estate sale, obviously, did not have their client in
their best interest or even had a clue ... ... and Phil, knowing what
you know, you ripped your neighbor off ...


Well Graham some of these estate cleanout sales are geared to get rid of
stuff instead of trying to run an antique shop where half the stuff dont
sell because its all priced to high

..... one of the goals, in our business, is to move as much as we can on the
sale days, but is it not the only one, nor is it #1 ... everything, in
all of the
sales I have done in the past 10 years (several hundred) does sell,
either
at the sale, on consignment or goes to an alternate market ....

then the estate sale company just keeps it & sells it .

.... nobody, that I know of,in this town,does that ... you are speculating

I noticed this happening here years back so most
people now just sell the stuff themselves .

.... most of the time, the family doing the sale is big mistake, we can
usually
make the family more money if they hire us to do the sale, even after
our commission ..

.... homeowners, family members and people not in the business, just don't
know what their items are worth or what to price them at as evient in
Phil's T/O find for a buck at a sale by the family ...

have not seen an ``estate cmpany`` doing estates here for some time now .

.... that is because there is no market

One estate sale company near here gathers up the good stuff , looks up
its value from books and internet then puts 1/3 that value on the stuff

.... we all use the internet as a reference ... only 1/3 ??? that's not right
....

Ken, I think you would be more comfortable passing the estate sales
and sticking to the garage sales ... garage sale pricing seems be be more to
your liking ... do not expect garage sale prices at estate sales

"Ken G." wrote in message
...
Whoever did that estate sale, obviously, did not have their client in
their best interest or even had a clue ... ... and Phil, knowing what
you know, you ripped your neighbor off ...

And if you DO offer them more than they're asking, you're rewarded often by
having them suddenly decide it's no longer for sale. Eddie brimer has then
had the item later end up in the landfill, just ask him. no good deed goes
unpunished.

By the way, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

John H.

"Hagstar" wrote in message
...

"Ken G." wrote in message
...
Whoever did that estate sale, obviously, did not have their client in
their best interest or even had a clue ... ... and Phil, knowing what
you know, you ripped your neighbor off ...



And if you DO offer them more than they're asking, you're rewarded often
by having them suddenly decide it's no longer for sale.

.... so what, it is theirs .. they are not bound to sell it to you ...
.... you are not entitled to it ...

Eddie brimer has then had the item later end up in the landfill, just ask
him.

... so, he is not entitled to it either ...

no good deed goes unpunished.

.... are you revealing a flaw in your character ...

By the way, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

.... never said I was perfect, I just commented on
Phil's T/O acquisition

.... everyone that reads this group and on AR+P knows that it is
worth far more than $1.00

graham wrote:

... everyone that reads this group and on AR+P knows that it is
worth far more than $1.00

Bullcrap. At that time, at that place, with the people involved - the
TO was worth $1.00. Get over it.

sheesh.
--
randy guttery

A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews
so vital to the United States Silent Service:
http://tendertale.com

Hagstar wrote:
no good deed goes unpunished.


Truer words were never spoken.
I've been thinking about have it tattooed in reverse
on my forehead so I can read it every time I look in the mirror.
Maybe then I'd remember it.

Ron

Ken G. wrote:

Whoever did that estate sale, obviously, did not have their client in
their best interest or even had a clue ... ... and Phil, knowing what
you know, you ripped your neighbor off ...

Well Graham some of these estate cleanout sales are geared to get rid of
stuff instead of trying to run an antique shop where half the stuff dont
sell because its all priced to high then the estate sale company just
keeps it & sells it . I noticed this happening here years back so most
people now just sell the stuff themselves . I have not seen an ``estate
company`` doing estates here for some time now .
One estate sale company near here gathers up the good stuff , looks up
its value from books and internet then puts 1/3 that value on the stuff


Having "been there, done that" unless there is a pile of known good
stuff, or possibly good stuff, a family may have far more interest in
clearing the home quickly - while a mortgage may still be running on the
property and real estate taxes have to be paid and the stuff has to go
before the house can even be fixed up and shown to buyers - than picking
nits over whether they should have got $5.00 versus $15.00 for any given
item. And dragging an Estate Auctioneer into the process doesn't
guarantee a higher return either - when a bunch of dealers show up for
the sale who *do not* want to pay top dollar for anything. Or an
Auctioneer who drags their own "Antiques" into the sale and ends up
selling far more of their merchandise than your own.

An Estate Auction is an option. But squeezing every penny out of
relatively worthless items isn't always the top priority when clearing a
house. Phil got darn lucky on that radio. But seriously, do you think a
bidding war would have broken out on a radio like that if their was an
Estate auction?

Rick

Rick wrote:

Ken G. wrote:

Whoever did that estate sale, obviously, did not have their client in
their best interest or even had a clue ... ... and Phil, knowing what
you know, you ripped your neighbor off ...

Well Graham some of these estate cleanout sales are geared to get rid of
stuff instead of trying to run an antique shop where half the stuff dont
sell because its all priced to high then the estate sale company just
keeps it & sells it . I noticed this happening here years back so most
people now just sell the stuff themselves . I have not seen an ``estate
company`` doing estates here for some time now .
One estate sale company near here gathers up the good stuff , looks up
its value from books and internet then puts 1/3 that value on the stuff


Having "been there, done that" unless there is a pile of known good
stuff, or possibly good stuff, a family may have far more interest in
clearing the home quickly - while a mortgage may still be running on the
property and real estate taxes have to be paid and the stuff has to go
before the house can even be fixed up and shown to buyers - than picking
nits over whether they should have got $5.00 versus $15.00 for any given
item. And dragging an Estate Auctioneer into the process doesn't
guarantee a higher return either - when a bunch of dealers show up for
the sale who *do not* want to pay top dollar for anything. Or an
Auctioneer who drags their own "Antiques" into the sale and ends up
selling far more of their merchandise than your own.

An Estate Auction is an option. But squeezing every penny out of
relatively worthless items isn't always the top priority when clearing a
house. Phil got darn lucky on that radio. But seriously, do you think a
bidding war would have broken out on a radio like that if their was an
Estate auction?

Rick


I see offers on Freecycle to clean out houses around here. They
divide the stuff into rough groupings, and just give it away, rather
than spend the time needed on more pressing matters. I don't reply to
any of the offers, because there is always someone who needs the stuff
more than I do.

When my next door neighbor died, a guy he'd more or less raised years
ago showed up with a big truck and trailer to take his best hand and
power tools, then he left everything else behind. My dad helped the
widow clean the place out, and I made countless trips to different
thrift stores to give away truckloads of things she didn't want to keep
so the older home could be replaced.

Its like a thread on news:sci.electronics.design about volunteerism
right now. Why hang on to a lot of household items you don't need, when
people have lost their homes to fire, tornados, hurricanes or other
situations that isn't their fault?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Rick" wrote in message ...

Having "been there, done that" unless there is a pile of known good
stuff, or possibly good stuff, a family may have far more interest in
clearing the home quickly -

.... that is where we can be of high value ... we know what the good stuff
is (most do not) and we attract the buyers for it ... as of today, I
have
over 1700 names on our sale email list ... many of those are regulars
that
routinely come to our sales ... it is not unusual for us to have 400+
people
a day coming to a sale (space permitting) buying paper items (old post
cards,
photos, documents, maps, letters, advertising, etc.), old tableware,
dishes,
cast iron pans, knives, spice tins, vintage clothes, books, bedroom sets
musical instruments, dining room sets, chairs, couches, sewing machines,
tools, bottles, jars, cars, boats, trailers, motor homes, hell, we sold
an
airplane once ... then you get into new stuff sales too ... tv's,
microwaves,
computers, canned food, kitchen appliances, virtually anything you have
in your house today ... the vast majority is good, sellable stuff, if it
wasn't
we won't take the sale ...

while a mortgage may still be running on the
property and real estate taxes have to be paid and the stuff has to go
before the house can even be fixed up and shown to buyers -

.... many times the house is already on the market, the older houses are
paid for and since the process for one of our normal sales only takes
a week ... 5 days to setup and the sale on Saturday & Sunday, your
above statement is not an issue ...

than picking
nits over whether they should have got $5.00 versus $15.00 for any given
item.

.... pricing is totally up to us ... items over $50.00 are priced, bids are
accepted
until 2:00pm Sunday afternoon, we then call the high bidder if the item
didn't
sell at the full asking price ... items $50.00 and under are 1/2 price
all day Sunday

And dragging an Estate Auctioneer into the process doesn't
guarantee a higher return either - when a bunch of dealers show up for
the sale who *do not* want to pay top dollar for anything.

..... dealers or regulars, contrary to your opinion, are our best customers
and pay the higher prices because they know what they are buying
and what they can get for it ...

Or an
Auctioneer who drags their own "Antiques" into the sale and ends up
selling far more of their merchandise than your own.

.... I know a dozen or so, they have so much stuff brought to them
there is no need for them to pad the auction with
"their own "Antiques" , there is just no reason to ...

An Estate Auction is an option. But squeezing every penny out of
relatively worthless items isn't always the top priority when clearing a
house. Phil got darn lucky on that radio. But seriously, do you think a
bidding war would have broken out on a radio like that if their was an
Estate auction?

.... unless it is a huge estate, a tag sale works better than an auction,
that is what we do, everything in the house is priced, an auction
is good for large or similar lots of stuff ....

.... after looking at Phil's radio, I would have priced it at $60.00 and
would
have expected bids in the $30.00 to $40.00 range if it didn't sell at
full boat ... we usually sell every old radio we come across ...

BTW: I would have pulled the 1L6 and left it with the cashier, I do that
with some of the more valuable tubes and knobs too ...

... you know how those radio guys can get .... ;-)

that is where we can be of high value ... we know what the good stuff
* is (most do not) and we attract the buyers for it ... as of today,

You know thats all nicey nice but your service charges to do that . If
it was just all sold without you guys they would make about the same
amount anyway .

graham wrote:

"Phil Nelson" wrote in message
...
Snagged at an estate sale three blocks from here for $1. And this in a
town where "estate sale" usually means a broken plastic toddler slide and
two boxes of chewed-up My Little Ponies.

Yes, it has the 1L6.

Phil Nelson


Whoever did that estate sale, obviously, did not have their
client in their best interest or even had a clue ...
... and Phil, knowing what you know, you ripped your neighbor off ...

... wow, good for you ....


One of your fellow estate auctioneers is in big trouble in the
Orlando area for not paying his clients after the auctions, some for a
year. Others clients property was hauled to his house, and never sold.
It really speaks highly of your trade.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida