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Westinghouse H-104 power supply
The part of the schematic that I didn't post does indeed show 117 volts as
the expected input. So one final question, and then I think I've got it. I've gone online and found a few sources for what should be a compatible transformer. 270-0-270, plus 5V and a 6.3V. I also looked up the current draw of a 5U4 and found that I need at least 3A across the filmanent, so I'll be sure to buy one that is appropriate. But about that 270V - do I need to take into account any kind of voltage drop across the plate? Obviously the schematic is showing resulting voltages, not transformer output voltages as I originally though. So is 270 the right spec? The 5U4 has about a 50V drop across the plate. Jeff "Carter-k8vt" wrote in message . net... Unrevealed Source wrote: "Carter-k8vt" wrote in message t... The 268 volts you are seeing on each plate is 268 volts -AC- to ground; to put it another way, you are looking at a transformer with a 268-0-268 volt secondary (or a transformer with a 536 volt *center-tapped* secondary). I've got that part - thanks for confirming. Let me toss you a minor curve ball: If you were repairing this radio in its era, you would indeed be looking for a replacement transformer with approximately a 270-0-270 high voltage secondary winding; this is because it was designed for 110 volts AC coming out of the socket on your wall. Today, that voltage is 115 to 120 volts or even a bit higher and using -today's- line voltage with a 270-0-270 winding would give you a bit more than the 265 volts DC B+ that you are looking for. So, what I am saying is that you could (should?) look for a transformer with a 220-0-220 or 250-0-250 high voltage winding; i.e. less (than 270-0-270) is better. The 265 volts you refer to is +265 volts -DC-, measured from the filament (cathode) to ground. The voltage -across- the 5U4 filament is 5 volts AC, the filament voltage of a 5U4. So I need to apply 5V AC across the filament (pins 2 and 8). That's consistent with what my understanding would have been. Yes. That is why your replacement transformer needs a 5 volt secondary winding (with enough current for a 5U4 filament). And the 265V is generated by the tube, correct? Yes, the tube changes (or 'rectifies') the 268 volts AC to 265 volts DC. This would be a pulsed DC, would it not, coming directly off the tube? Yes. In circuit, it is constant DC due to the filter capacitors? Yes (and also due to a filter choke if one is present (rest of the schematic is cut off). Do I understand this correctly? Yes. By the very nature of your question, it indicates that you are a beginner -- which is OK; we were all beginners at one time. Just be careful; these voltages, if not fatal, can at least be harmful. Yes, relative to almost all of you, I am indeed a relative beginner. And this is my first experience with a transformer/rectifier-based radio, so I apologize if my questions are somewhat stupid. Jeff Nope, not stupid. Again, we were ALL beginners at one time. Asking questions is how you learn... |
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Westinghouse H-104 power supply
"Unrevealed Source" wrote in message ... The part of the schematic that I didn't post does indeed show 117 volts as the expected input. So one final question, and then I think I've got it. I've gone online and found a few sources for what should be a compatible transformer. 270-0-270, plus 5V and a 6.3V. I also looked up the current draw of a 5U4 and found that I need at least 3A across the filmanent, so I'll be sure to buy one that is appropriate. But about that 270V - do I need to take into account any kind of voltage drop across the plate? Obviously the schematic is showing resulting voltages, not transformer output voltages as I originally though. So is 270 the right spec? The 5U4 has about a 50V drop across the plate. That 50V drop is figured into the resulting DC output voltage, once filtered. (DC filtered voltage = AC voltage (of one half of the transformer at any peak) x 1.414) |
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