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Department of Motor Vehicles Custom Plate Gallery - Emergency Services # Eligible Vehicles: All vehicles that are registered in NYS as a passenger class vehicle or as a commercial class vehicle are eligible. (Note: Commercial plates must display the word "COMMERCIAL".) Certain custom plates are available for Motorcycles that are registered in NYS (refer to the plate gallery). # Eligible Persons: An organization can require you to prove that you are eligible to use the organization picture plates (refer to the plate gallery). Certain organization picture plates must be ordered through the organization or the Custom Plates Unit only. Ham Radio Operator Requirements: copy of license issued by FCC. $23/$5 ----- § 397 § 397. Equipping motor vehicles with radio receiving sets capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use. A person, not a police officer or peace officer, acting pursuant to his special duties, who equips a motor vehicle with a radio receiving set capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use or knowingly uses a motor vehicle so equipped or who in any way knowingly interferes with the transmission of radio messages by the police without having first secured a permit so to do from the person authorized to issue such a permit by the local governing body _ or board of the city. town or village in which such person resides, or where such person resides outside of a city or village in a county having a county police department by the board of supervisors of such county, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a tine not exceeding one thousand dollars, or imprisonment not exceeding six months, or both. Nothing in this section contained shall be construed to apply to any person who holds a valid amateur radio operators license issued by the federal communications commission and who operates a duly licensed portable mobile transmitter and in connection therewith a receiver or receiving set on frequencies exclusively allocated by the federal communications commission to duly licensed radio amateurs. § 397-a. Radar detectors prohibited. 1. No radar detector shall be used in any motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than eighteen thousand pounds. The presence in such vehicle of a radar detector connected to a power source and in an operable condition is presumptive evidence of its use by any person operating such vehicle. Such presumption shall be rebutted by any credible and reliable evidence which tends to show that such radar detector was not in use. 2. The provisions of this section shall not be construed as authorizing the seizure or forfeiture of a radar detector, unless otherwise provided by law. 3. A violation of the provisions of this section shall constitute a traffic infraction punishable by a tine of not less than twenty-five nor more than one hundred dollars. § 397-h. Vehicle leases that are not sales or security interests. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, in the case of motor vehicles or trailers which are not vehicles or trailers leased or used primarily for personal, family, or household purposes, a transaction does not create a conditional sale or security interest merely because it provides that the rental price is permitted or required to be adjusted under the agreement either upward or downward by reference to the amount realized upon sale or other disposition of the motor vehicle or trailer. -208- |
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: New York State Department of Motor Vehicles Custom Plate Gallery - Emergency Services # Eligible Vehicles: All vehicles that are registered in NYS as a passenger class vehicle or as a commercial class vehicle are eligible. (Note: Commercial plates must display the word "COMMERCIAL".) Certain custom plates are available for Motorcycles that are registered in NYS (refer to the plate gallery). # Eligible Persons: An organization can require you to prove that you are eligible to use the organization picture plates (refer to the plate gallery). Certain organization picture plates must be ordered through the organization or the Custom Plates Unit only. Ham Radio Operator Requirements: copy of license issued by FCC. $23/$5 ----- § 397 § 397. Equipping motor vehicles with radio receiving sets capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use. A person, not a police officer or peace officer, acting pursuant to his special duties, who equips a motor vehicle with a radio receiving set capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use or knowingly uses a motor vehicle so equipped or who in any way knowingly interferes with the transmission of radio messages by the police without having first secured a permit so to do from the person authorized to issue such a permit by the local governing body _ or board of the city. town or village in which such person resides, or where such person resides outside of a city or village in a county having a county police department by the board of supervisors of such county, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a tine not exceeding one thousand dollars, or imprisonment not exceeding six months, or both. Nothing in this section contained shall be construed to apply to any person who holds a valid amateur radio operators license issued by the federal communications commission and who operates a duly licensed portable mobile transmitter and in connection therewith a receiver or receiving set on frequencies exclusively allocated by the federal communications commission to duly licensed radio amateurs. § 397-a. Radar detectors prohibited. 1. No radar detector shall be used in any motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than eighteen thousand pounds. The presence in such vehicle of a radar detector connected to a power source and in an operable condition is presumptive evidence of its use by any person operating such vehicle. Such presumption shall be rebutted by any credible and reliable evidence which tends to show that such radar detector was not in use. 2. The provisions of this section shall not be construed as authorizing the seizure or forfeiture of a radar detector, unless otherwise provided by law. 3. A violation of the provisions of this section shall constitute a traffic infraction punishable by a tine of not less than twenty-five nor more than one hundred dollars. § 397-h. Vehicle leases that are not sales or security interests. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, in the case of motor vehicles or trailers which are not vehicles or trailers leased or used primarily for personal, family, or household purposes, a transaction does not create a conditional sale or security interest merely because it provides that the rental price is permitted or required to be adjusted under the agreement either upward or downward by reference to the amount realized upon sale or other disposition of the motor vehicle or trailer. -208- Yes, every NYS ham should be familiar with part 397. Being able to quote the specific V&TL section could come in handy should an "issue" ever arise during a traffic stop. While 397 specifically permits licensed hams to equip their vehicles with 2-way radio gear, there is nothing in the section that REQUIRES a vehicle have mobile ham radio equipment on board as a condition of having ham radio license plates. (As "radioguy" claims) |
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On Apr 18, 5:37*pm, Steve Stone wrote:
* New York State * Department of Motor Vehicles * Custom Plate Gallery - Emergency Services Ham Radio Operator Requirements: copy of license issued by FCC. * *$23/$5 ----- § 397 § 397. Equipping motor vehicles with radio receiving sets capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use. A person, not a police officer or peace officer, acting pursuant to his special duties, who equips a motor vehicle with a radio receiving set capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use or knowingly uses a motor vehicle so equipped or who in any way knowingly interferes with the transmission of radio messages by the police without having first secured a permit so to do from the person authorized to issue such a permit by the local governing body _ or board of the city. town or village in which such person resides, or where such person resides outside of a city or village in a county having a county police department by the board of supervisors of such county, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a tine not exceeding one thousand dollars, or imprisonment not exceeding six months, or both. Nothing in this section contained shall be construed to apply to any person who holds a valid amateur radio operators license issued by the federal communications commission and who operates a duly licensed portable mobile transmitter and in connection therewith a receiver or receiving set on frequencies exclusively allocated by the federal communications commission to duly licensed radio amateurs. § 397-a. Radar detectors prohibited. 1. No radar detector shall be used in any motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than eighteen thousand pounds. The presence in such vehicle of a radar detector connected to a power source and in an operable condition is presumptive evidence of its use by any person operating such vehicle. Such presumption shall be rebutted by any credible and reliable evidence which tends to show that such radar detector was not in use. What happened to the FEDERAL law that states states must recognize other state's laws and vehicle equipment installations as legal? Yours contradicts both the other states and FEDERAL law. If you have ham plates, then Alaska, Oregon, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Missouri ALL REQUIRE that you MUST have ham radio equipment INSTALLED in the vehicle. And most cities, countis, and police departments in other states do not issue any such documents as you say New York requires. People do go on vacation to other states. And since many people can only afford one car, what if it's the ham's wife driving the car thrugh New York without him. Of course, she isnt going to have any such document as you say New York requires even if his locality did issue such a document to him. Which most don't because the plates are proof enough. And of course, she wouldn't have a radio liscense like he does. Plus SOME states by law put a design in the middle of the ham plate letters. And I've seen posts saying that's illegal in New York to have a design in the middle of your ha call letters on your ham plates, and if you drive through there like that, you will get arrested eveen more. So that is saying that sdome hams are NOT allowed to drive their perfectly legal cars with theirperfectly legal ham call plates through New York state because some states require a design like a lightning bolt on the ham plates in the middle of the call letters. And you all probably don't even know how to run ham plates. SOME states allow the exact same call plates on multiple vehicles. That is, no -1, -2, -3 like New York requires. I saw posts saying that is illegal in New York to have any vehicle with ham plates like that registered to multiple vehicles even if you're from out of state. Since when does New York state law OVERRULE Federal law? The FEDERAL law about states must recognize other state's laws about license plates, stickers, sticker placement, and equipment installation in vehicles as legal if it's legal in the state the car and driver are registered in is still in effect and valid. And what about a large family of hams who the whole family has gotten ham liscenses and has all their vehicles registered with the exact same ham call plate, perfctly legal in their home state who then must tak and drive two or all three of their cars on vacation through New York state in order to legally fit them in the cars. It's illegal in my state to have a car overcrowded with too many people. Four or six is the limit depending on how many seatbelts there are and the size of the vehicle, 2 door or 3 door. And some vehicles only seat two people, like some pickup trucks or some small cars. 2. * * *The provisions of this section shall not be construed as authorizing the seizure or forfeiture of a radar detector, unless otherwise provided by law. 3. * * *A violation of the provisions of this section shall constitute a traffic infraction punishable by a tine of not less than twenty-five nor more than one hundred dollars. § 397-h. Vehicle leases that are not sales or security interests. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, in the case of motor vehicles or trailers which are not vehicles or trailers leased or used primarily for personal, family, or household purposes, a transaction does not create a conditional sale or security interest merely because it provides that the rental price is permitted or required to be adjusted under the agreement either upward or downward by reference to the amount realized upon sale or other disposition of the motor vehicle or trailer. -208- |
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:15:38 -0700 (PDT), radioguy
wrote: On Apr 18, 5:37*pm, Steve Stone wrote: * New York State * Department of Motor Vehicles * Custom Plate Gallery - Emergency Services Ham Radio Operator Requirements: copy of license issued by FCC. * *$23/$5 ----- § 397 § 397. Equipping motor vehicles with radio receiving sets capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use. A person, not a police officer or peace officer, acting pursuant to his special duties, who equips a motor vehicle with a radio receiving set capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use or knowingly uses a motor vehicle so equipped or who in any way knowingly interferes with the transmission of radio messages by the police without having first secured a permit so to do from the person authorized to issue such a permit by the local governing body _ or board of the city. town or village in which such person resides, or where such person resides outside of a city or village in a county having a county police department by the board of supervisors of such county, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a tine not exceeding one thousand dollars, or imprisonment not exceeding six months, or both. Nothing in this section contained shall be construed to apply to any person who holds a valid amateur radio operators license issued by the federal communications commission and who operates a duly licensed portable mobile transmitter and in connection therewith a receiver or receiving set on frequencies exclusively allocated by the federal communications commission to duly licensed radio amateurs. This law deals with the installation of ANY radio RECEIVER that can monitor police frequencies. The wording DOES NOT suggest that a ham MUST have a unit in the plated vehicle. The law only says that the owner of said plates must be licensed to do so. § 397-a. Radar detectors prohibited. 1. No radar detector shall be used in any motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than eighteen thousand pounds. The presence in such vehicle of a radar detector connected to a power source and in an operable condition is presumptive evidence of its use by any person operating such vehicle. Such presumption shall be rebutted by any credible and reliable evidence which tends to show that such radar detector was not in use. What happened to the FEDERAL law that states states must recognize other state's laws and vehicle equipment installations as legal? That's known as the "International Reciprocity Pact". It is not necessarily a federal law. Which is also damned difficult to find on the search engines. If you live in NY, anything that NY law says is legal on your vehicle, must also be accepted as legal anywhere else in the country as well as Mexico and Canada. Yours contradicts both the other states and FEDERAL law. If you have ham plates, then Alaska, Oregon, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Missouri ALL REQUIRE that you MUST have ham radio equipment INSTALLED in the vehicle. No. Those states can only accept the plate. Their laws are for the residents of their states for the issuance of such plates. And most cities, countis, and police departments in other states do not issue any such documents as you say New York requires. People do go on vacation to other states. And since many people can only afford one car, what if it's the ham's wife driving the car thrugh New York without him. All that is necessary is that the owner of the said vehicle and plates has met the state's requirement's for those plates. Stopping an out of state vehicle simply because the officer did not see the registered owner driving the vehicle is not probable cause and would not hold up in court. Of course, she isnt going to have any such document as you say New York requires even if his locality did issue such a document to him. Which most don't because the plates are proof enough. And of course, she wouldn't have a radio liscense like he does. Plus SOME states by law put a design in the middle of the ham plate letters. And I've seen posts saying that's illegal in New York to have a design in the middle of your ha call letters on your ham plates, and if you drive through there like that, you will get arrested eveen more. If your plates are from NY. So that is saying that sdome hams are NOT allowed to drive their perfectly legal cars with theirperfectly legal ham call plates through New York state because some states require a design like a lightning bolt on the ham plates in the middle of the call letters. And you all probably don't even know how to run ham plates. SOME states allow the exact same call plates on multiple vehicles. That is, no -1, -2, -3 like New York requires. Really? Got a case cite for this? I saw posts saying that is illegal in New York to have any vehicle with ham plates like that registered to multiple vehicles even if you're from out of state. Since when does New York state law OVERRULE Federal law? Because they say it does. The FEDERAL law about states must recognize other state's laws about license plates, stickers, sticker placement, and equipment installation in vehicles as legal if it's legal in the state the car and driver are registered in is still in effect and valid. And what about a large family of hams who the whole family has gotten ham liscenses and has all their vehicles registered with the exact same ham call plate, perfctly legal in their home state who then must tak and drive two or all three of their cars on vacation through New York state in order to legally fit them in the cars. wrong. It's illegal in my state to have a car overcrowded with too many people. Four or six is the limit depending on how many seatbelts there are and the size of the vehicle, 2 door or 3 door. And some vehicles only seat two people, like some pickup trucks or some small cars. |
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