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Old January 17th 10, 09:53 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,alt.radio.family,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
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Default frs/gmrs radios are illegal in New York and Kentucky while mobile andin Indiana eben while portable

Every FRS/GMRS radio I have seen all scan. Therefore, they are
definitely scanners.

Since the deseral exemption applies only to ham radio operators and
even then only to ham radio transcievers which can also scan out of
band, and not to any other type of scanner.

It is against the law to use a frs/gmrs radio while mobile in New
York, Kentucky and a few other states.

And in Indiana, not only is it illegal to use your frs/gmrs radio
while mobile, it's also against the law for you or your kids to use
your frs/gmrs while portable (while walking around outside of your
house since thast is "in puiblic". where the public can see you.

Cops have already illegally confiscated ham hts they see in vehicles.

Sometimes the ham can get out of it by showing the cop their fcc-
issued ham license.

And somerimes not. i read that the LAPD does not and will not accept
federally FCC-issued ham licenses as proof of license and that they
only accept proof of being licensed to use your ham radio if the ham
radio permit was issued by the LAPD. from what I read posted
elsewhere.

But what does a unlicenced frs user do when a cop sees their frs radio
which doesn't even cover gmrs frequencies in the car?

It's still a scanner, but in that case, the driver has no radio
license to show to the cop since it's FRS and a GMRS license wouldn't
cover it anyway, even if the radio was one of the newer fts/gmrs
radios and the driver was a gmrs licensee since federal law doesn't
erxempt gmrs licensees, only ham licensees.

It's also against the U.S. Constitution to apply laws unequally to
U.S. citizens.

Therefore, to remain constitutional, either ALL citizens including
hams must be banned from having radios capable of scanning while in
their vewhicles or ALL citizens including non-hams must be allowed to
have radios capable of scanning the exact same frequencies while
driving.




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Default frs/gmrs radios are illegal in New York and Kentucky while mobileand in Indiana eben while portable

On 1/17/2010 3:53 PM, radioguy wrote:
Every FRS/GMRS radio I have seen all scan. Therefore, they are
definitely scanners.

Since the deseral exemption applies only to ham radio operators and
even then only to ham radio transcievers which can also scan out of
band, and not to any other type of scanner.


Are you related to Emilio Goldstein?
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Default frs/gmrs radios are illegal in New York and Kentucky while mobile and in Indiana eben while portable


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Every FRS/GMRS radio I have seen all scan. Therefore, they are
definitely scanners.

Since the deseral exemption applies only to ham radio operators and
even then only to ham radio transcievers which can also scan out of
band, and not to any other type of scanner.

It is against the law to use a frs/gmrs radio while mobile in New
York, Kentucky and a few other states.

And in Indiana, not only is it illegal to use your frs/gmrs radio
while mobile, it's also against the law for you or your kids to use
your frs/gmrs while portable (while walking around outside of your
house since thast is "in puiblic". where the public can see you.

Cops have already illegally confiscated ham hts they see in vehicles.

Sometimes the ham can get out of it by showing the cop their fcc-
issued ham license.

And somerimes not. i read that the LAPD does not and will not accept
federally FCC-issued ham licenses as proof of license and that they
only accept proof of being licensed to use your ham radio if the ham
radio permit was issued by the LAPD. from what I read posted
elsewhere.

But what does a unlicenced frs user do when a cop sees their frs radio
which doesn't even cover gmrs frequencies in the car?

It's still a scanner, but in that case, the driver has no radio
license to show to the cop since it's FRS and a GMRS license wouldn't
cover it anyway, even if the radio was one of the newer fts/gmrs
radios and the driver was a gmrs licensee since federal law doesn't
erxempt gmrs licensees, only ham licensees.


You are way off base on this. Read the Indiana scanner law and how it
pertains to POLICE radios...NOT GMRS or non police use frequencies.

Read it slowly. And then read it again.



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Default frs/gmrs radios are illegal in New York and Kentucky while mobile and in Indiana eben while portable

And in Indiana, not only is it illegal to use your frs/gmrs radio
while mobile, it's also against the law for you or your kids to use
your frs/gmrs while portable (while walking around outside of your
house since thast is "in puiblic". where the public can see you.

This is just so much Bovine Manure that I can only laugh.

What SHOULD be illegal is dimwits such as yourself walking the streets,
especially "in puiblic"





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Default frs/gmrs radios are illegal in New York and Kentucky while mobileand in Indiana eben while portable

On Jan 18, 2:24*pm, "Gary" [email protected] wrote:
"radioguy" wrote in message

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Every FRS/GMRS radio I have seen all scan. Therefore, they are
definitely scanners.


Since the deseral exemption applies only to ham radio operators and
even then only to ham radio transcievers which can also scan out of
band, and not to any other type of scanner.


It is against the law to use a frs/gmrs radio while mobile in New
York, Kentucky and a few other states.


And in Indiana, not only is it illegal to use your frs/gmrs radio
while mobile, it's also against the law for you or your kids to use
your frs/gmrs while portable (while walking around outside of your
house since thast is "in puiblic". where the public can see you.


Cops have already illegally confiscated ham hts they see in vehicles.


Sometimes the ham can get out of it by showing the cop their fcc-
issued ham license.


And somerimes not. i read that the LAPD does not and will not accept
federally FCC-issued ham licenses as proof of license and that they
only accept proof of being licensed to use your ham radio if the ham
radio permit was issued by the LAPD. from what I read posted
elsewhere.


But what does a unlicenced frs user do when a cop sees their frs radio
which doesn't even cover gmrs frequencies in the car?


It's still a scanner, but in that case, the driver has no radio
license to show to the cop since it's FRS and a GMRS license wouldn't
cover it anyway, even if the radio was one of the newer fts/gmrs
radios and the driver was a gmrs licensee since federal law doesn't
erxempt gmrs licensees, only ham licensees.


You are way off base on this. Read the Indiana scanner law and how it
pertains to POLICE radios...NOT GMRS or non police use frequencies.

Read it slowly. And then read it again.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Based on the reading, I am not even sure that a scanner capable of
receiving police frequencies is illegal unless it is used to commit a
crime or hinder emergency services (although it is easy to see how the
law could be construed to mean otherwise). The law allows the use of
a "police radio" (let's assume for a minute that this means a scanner
or a Realistic Patrolman portable) during the course of a person's
otherwise lawful business. That could be practically anything a
person does from making breakfast to driving the kids to school to
fishing under the old sycamore tree.

Bruce Jensen


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Default frs/gmrs radios are illegal in New York and Kentucky while mobileand in Indiana eben while portable

You should get a job so you're not sitting on your butt all day at your
parents house thinking up this sh!t all day long.

Maybe you can get a gov't job. They sit around all day long, too.
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Default frs/gmrs radios are illegal in New York and Kentucky while mobileand in Indiana eben while portable

There aren't any legal - "FCC Type Accepted" - FRS/GMRS radios that are capable of receiving police frequencies.

There are Chinese manufactured radios marketed to Amateur (Ham) Radio Operators that have receive and transmit capabilities on a very wide range of radio frequencies, and which are also illicitly marketed such that they can illegally be user programmed to transmit on the FRS & GMRS frequencies (and other frequencies) and at power levels exceeding FCC regulations..


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