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Old October 30th 04, 08:14 PM
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We're using different definitions of "resonant". The definition I use
says that an antenna can only resonate on a frequency. (Pretty much,
the frequency a dip meter will indicate when coupled to the antenna.)
It can have a bandwidth over which it can be used, but the resonant
point is (usually) one single frequency. Discones look like dipoles
with the 2 legs being different lengths, so the best one could say -
using my definition - is that they "resonate" on the frequency at
which the disc is 1/2 wavelength in diameter and the frequency at
which the cone element length is 1/4 wavelength.

But they probably are the best tradeoff for multi-band scanning.


Let's use an accepted engineering definition- resonance is defined when the
input Z has zero reactance- a properly designed discone (disc and cone- not
a skeletal version) is virtually reactance free over a very wide band.
Discones may look like dipoles- although you really have to be imaginitive,
is a derivative of the bicone antenna (replace the disk with another cone).
With proper included cone angle and proper machining of the junction (this
limits hi end performance) it is a wonderfully broadbanded antenna.

Dale W4OP


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Old October 31st 04, 04:13 AM
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So what you are saying Dale is that a bicone antenna is a good wideband
antenna? Do they exhibit any gain?


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We're using different definitions of "resonant". The definition I use
says that an antenna can only resonate on a frequency. (Pretty much,
the frequency a dip meter will indicate when coupled to the antenna.)
It can have a bandwidth over which it can be used, but the resonant
point is (usually) one single frequency. Discones look like dipoles
with the 2 legs being different lengths, so the best one could say -
using my definition - is that they "resonate" on the frequency at
which the disc is 1/2 wavelength in diameter and the frequency at
which the cone element length is 1/4 wavelength.

But they probably are the best tradeoff for multi-band scanning.


Let's use an accepted engineering definition- resonance is defined when
the
input Z has zero reactance- a properly designed discone (disc and cone-
not
a skeletal version) is virtually reactance free over a very wide band.
Discones may look like dipoles- although you really have to be
imaginitive,
is a derivative of the bicone antenna (replace the disk with another
cone).
With proper included cone angle and proper machining of the junction (this
limits hi end performance) it is a wonderfully broadbanded antenna.

Dale W4OP




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Old October 31st 04, 10:05 AM
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Troy R. schrieb:
So what you are saying Dale is that a bicone antenna is a good wideband
antenna? Do they exhibit any gain?


Gain? ...compared to what?
Yes, the bicone antenna has gain!
It's gain is comparable to a dipole.
But a bicone is far away to be as broadband as a discone.

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Troy R. schrieb:
So what you are saying Dale is that a bicone antenna is a good wideband
antenna? Do they exhibit any gain?


Gain? ...compared to what?
Yes, the bicone antenna has gain!
It's gain is comparable to a dipole.
But a bicone is far away to be as broadband as a discone.


Can you show me a text indicating that a bicone has a bandwidth different
from a discone?

Dale W4OP


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