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[email protected] August 15th 06 03:19 AM
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
 
I do own a little RCA six hour digital recorder,and several cassette
tape recorders too.(the Bell South woman or that other woman lost the
battery cover and the instruction manual when I loaned it to them last
Feburary) My Radio Shack Pro-91 hand held scanner radio has an earphone
jack on top by the antenna and on/off/volume control knob and the
squelch knob.How should I hook it up?
cuhuln

[email protected] August 15th 06 03:24 AM
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
 
I own one or two old Panasonic tape recorders,I dont know what the model
numbers are,I would have to hunt them up out of my piles of junk and
see.I see one at the Goodwill store every once in a while.Maybe I will
start a collection of them.
cuhulin

[email protected] August 15th 06 03:36 AM
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
 
If I started hearing ''noises'',I would have to go change my pants.
cuhulin

Al Smith August 15th 06 06:00 AM
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
 
We've picked up so many EVPs that EVP itself is now boring and a
dead-end of sorts. Hence the need to set up apparatus for 2-way radio
communication using tones being sent to various frequencies (the
original Spiricom experment used 29.570 MHz), then waiting for days,
months, or even years until you get that first contact. It's more about
patience than believing, because once you do pick up the voices, you
will certainly question the reality you live in.

Jeff


So, why do you think spirits use the radio?

Amber LaStrega August 15th 06 09:20 AM
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
 

wrote:
m II wrote:
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I'm not much of a chicken fan -
either living, dead and cooked, or ghost chicken. :)

Guess you've never experienced Poultrygeist....

lol... nor would I want to. Though I'm sure it's not nearly as scary as
Coultergeist.

I'd never eat a cooked bird in a slim black dress ... but that's just
me.

Jeff, are you in St. Augustine?

*shrug* Just curious.

One Hung Low August 15th 06 05:22 PM
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wrote:
One Hung Low wrote:

First, I believe you mean the magnetic iron oxide, not silica, which is
sand. You would have to have a STRONG modulated -magnetic- field to
inadvertently pick up "mysterious" voices.

Finally, what makes you think a digital recorder is immune to
rectification? -EACH- IC (Integrated Circuit chip) in the digital
recorder contains hundreds of P-N junctions which ARE rectifiers and
thus susceptible to unwanted rectification of RF fields.

Bottom line: a digital recorder is equally or -more- likely to pick up a
stray RF field than a analog tape recorder.

Then I have one question and one assumption: Is there a way of making a
recording of the environment without the possibility of rectification?

Jeff, this is sort of a bogus question. Several times throughout this
epistle, you seem locked in on RF. If you truly believe that (RF that
is), then yes, you DO need rectification of the RF signal to recover the
audio modulation.

And... a leading theory in EVP is: "EVP is considered to be radio
frequency signals

so, if it's "radio frequency" signals, why use a tape recorder which is
designed to capture AUDIO frequency signals?

that inadvertently find their way into your
recordings by way of cross-modulation, atmospheric refraction

atmospheric refraction is meaningless in this context. Just being used
as a pseudo-science buzz word. If a ghost wanted to talk to you, why
would he (she?) have to bother bouncing it off the ionosphere?

or indirect rectification.

I believe the appropriate term here (and as used by the FCC) is
"incidental", not indirect. Again, this relates to the poor design of
the device in question and why the FCC calls such a case an "incidental"
receiver.

Many paranormal investigators feel that these
voices or signals are somehow connected to ghosts."

"feelings" don't have much place in science.

Let's say for the sake of debate that some voices using the EVP process
are genuinely otherworldly or from another dimension.

"Other dimension"? More buzz words. How is a tape recorder or radio
receiver going to cross "dimensions"? If you are seeing or hearing
something, it is -obviously- already in *our* "dimension".

They have to show
up on our recording apparatus somehow,

Why? Says who? They may show up, but they don't "have to".

and I guess the leading theory
is that this is through RF signals.

Again, if you truly believe it is RF, why in the heck are you trying to
use an AF device (voice recorder) to capture an RF signal???


If you would try EVP for yourself and judge the voices you capture on
an objective, one-by-one basis, instead of dismissing every voice
anyone has ever picked up as having no chance of being paranormal in
nature, you might question more the world around you.

I question the moronic politicians of this world on a daily basis...

It just so
happens that EVP is the best way to get evidence of that world.

Says who? What ever happened to good old tin trumpets, table tipping and
ectoplasm??? Must not be high-tech enough. Even spook chasing seems to
have "gone digital". :-)

PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of
consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business
meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently
had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay.
It retailed for $40.
Which proves nothing except that

a) the Panasonic design weenie was not cognizant of standard RFI
mitigation techniques.

If that is why the recorder was so good for EVP, then someone could
easily alter another recorder or build their own and sell it as an EVP
recorder and make a considerable amount of money,

Probably so, again there is one born every minute.

considering the public's interest has skyrocketed.

Now, THAT'S scary. More pseudo-science and outright quackery. Just what
we need--another "Dark Ages".

b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute.

As a seller, ya gotta love eBay!

I have another explanation: People in today's society are lazy and want
to take the easiest route to accomplish something - if there was a
"holy grail" of EVP recorders, people would buy it instead of spending
time working from the ground up with a standard recorder.

Huh? "Working from the ground up"? I truly do not understand what you
are trying to convey here. Are you saying it (their tape recorder) won't
work on Monday, will work a little bit on Tuesday and will get all kinds
of voices on Wednesday? If so, what would change in the hardware? What
would, hardware-wise, be different in the "holy grail" model that would
cause it to work all the time?

Sure, my
recorder didn't even pick up voices at first. Then gradually some
voices were picked up. Now I can't do a 30-second session without
sometimes dozens of voices showing up, speaking over top each other,
without any white noise. And that seems to correlate with my own
travels to cemeteries and the building of a machine to communicate with
other dimensions.

If you were a spirit and had a message to convey, you'd probably
gravitate toward someone who was spending time trying to open up the
door to communication.

A big stretch in the first place, but even by your own description
above, it would have to do with the -person-, NOT the model of tape
recorder they were using, "holy grail" version or otherwise.

Sadly, critical thinking is becoming a vanishing commodity in the 21st
century... :-(

[email protected] August 15th 06 05:45 PM
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Back in the 1970's I saw a program on tv.The program was about our souls
do have weight.It was scientificully tested when a person was on a
hospital bed.When that person passed away,that person was
suddenly/instantly three ounces lighter in weight.Whether that is
actually true or not,I dont know.
cuhulin

[email protected] August 15th 06 11:23 PM
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Your explanations sound good in theory, but do not explain how some
EVPs show up so loud that they are not just an auditory hallucination
of the white noise. Some are actually louder than my *own* voice asking
questions on the tape. Of course the accent was so thick that people
can't decide on what exactly it's saying, but they more most startled
by the sheer presence of it. Some question me whether it was a joke
because to them it defies rational explanation.

If rectification was taking place through a digital recorder, what
would be the maximum volume of it? I've never heard of *loud* voices
showing up. In fact, the quality and type and accent of the voices
reach such a wide spectrum that they are impossible to all explain away
by any one theory. But the more theories you use to try to explain them
all away, it's more plausible there may be a paranormal connection -
that is just for argument's sake. After hundreds of hours of research
with thousands of voices, and the odd events surrounding my life during
that time, I firmly believe most of these voices are paranormal in
nature. It's also interesting that nobody has asked me to listen to the
clearest voices. It would be impossible to convince you of their
paranormal origin because I'd be asking you to change your belief
system over something you've never researched or tried yourself. Now
*that* would be kooky.

Jeff

[email protected] August 15th 06 11:33 PM
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Ghost dont have substance.There they do not exist.
cuhulin

[email protected] August 15th 06 11:43 PM
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
 

wrote:
I do own a little RCA six hour digital recorder,and several cassette
tape recorders too.(the Bell South woman or that other woman lost the
battery cover and the instruction manual when I loaned it to them last
Feburary) My Radio Shack Pro-91 hand held scanner radio has an earphone
jack on top by the antenna and on/off/volume control knob and the
squelch knob.How should I hook it up?
cuhuln

I too use an RCA recorder, a 5012A model. My friend uses a 5012B model
but it doesn't work as well. Many say it depends on who is using the
recorder. For some reason I don't get nearly as many voices when the
recorder is left by itself, but if the operator is near it, the more
success you'll have. I think it's because they use your energy somehow.

Get an audio cable and plug from the mic jack on the recorder to the
earphone jack on the scanner, tune to a random frequency with only
static and press record. Record for about 30 seconds and upload the
tape onto your computer and amplify the sound (shareware software like
Cool Edit is best, and also the use of a Denoiser helps:

http://www.speechpro.com/production/?id=468&fid=7

click on "Denoiser Demo" on top right of the screen - it only allows
you to denoise 30 seconds at a time but that's perfect for EVP
recordings. I have not used the Virtos Denoiser or other newer denoiser
software which have popped up overnight).

Some here may argue that the use of a denoiser may corrupt the results
further, but experiments with it using my own faint voice over a lot of
white noise proved beneficial in that the denoiser clearly brought out
my voice which was nearly inaudible over the static. Remember,
everything in the universe involves energy. It would take a
particularly strong spirit to yell or scream on a tape. Most voices are
faint but as you record and experiment more they get stronger. Soon
you'll recognize who they are by their voice.

For a control, do a separate recording of the frequency without
plugging it through the scanner. For some reason the voices that appear
through the scanner are more monotone, and the ones in the room with
the scanner used as background noise are more dimensional in nature.

Good luck and feel free to email me if you need help.

Jeff


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