Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
I turned my scanner onto a particular "dead" frequency (actually, it
doesn't matter which frequency - every one I tried produced the same results) and of course heard nothing but static (and of course the squelch was 1 or 2 because anything higher would mute out the sound). I then plugged my IC recorder (digital voice recorder) into the back of the scanner and pressed record. I uploaded the recording to my computer with Adobe Audition and amplified the sound, and could hear human voices (this was confirmed by various witnesses) saying things that would have me in doubt that I was picking up a stray broadcast. Words were used like "ghosts", "spirit", the "n" word, along with meaningless dribble and weird animal sounds. This was in the same back bedroom where I set up my RF signal generator, scanner, and other recording equipment to mimic the 70s Spiricom "Mark IV" experiment. My question is this: can a digital recorder pick up voices through a frequency if plugged into the back of the scanner (of human origin) that cannot be heard through the scanner's speaker? The same recording was done of the room with the white noise of the dead frequency in the background and entirely different results were produced, with the voices sounding less monotone and more like others were in the room talking. Of course, it doesn't help that I was doing paranormal research using the digital recorder at a desolated black cemetery in town here and abruptly stopped to focus on 2-way communication as opposed to EVPs. Any way to easily explain away the voices that show up on the recording of the static/frequency but not the static/frequency itself when listened to in real-time? |
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
wrote in message ups.com... I turned my scanner onto a particular "dead" frequency (actually, it doesn't matter which frequency - every one I tried produced the same results) and of course heard nothing but static (and of course the squelch was 1 or 2 because anything higher would mute out the sound). I then plugged my IC recorder (digital voice recorder) into the back of the scanner and pressed record. I uploaded the recording to my computer with Adobe Audition and amplified the sound, and could hear human voices (this was confirmed by various witnesses) saying things that would have me in doubt that I was picking up a stray broadcast. Words were used like "ghosts", "spirit", the "n" word, along with meaningless dribble and weird animal sounds. This was in the same back bedroom where I set up my RF signal generator, scanner, and other recording equipment to mimic the 70s Spiricom "Mark IV" experiment. My question is this: can a digital recorder pick up voices through a frequency if plugged into the back of the scanner (of human origin) that cannot be heard through the scanner's speaker? The same recording was done of the room with the white noise of the dead frequency in the background and entirely different results were produced, with the voices sounding less monotone and more like others were in the room talking. Of course, it doesn't help that I was doing paranormal research using the digital recorder at a desolated black cemetery in town here and abruptly stopped to focus on 2-way communication as opposed to EVPs. Any way to easily explain away the voices that show up on the recording of the static/frequency but not the static/frequency itself when listened to in real-time? If this is not an attempt at trolling......... All that's happening is a simple case of "Rectification". You are hearing one or more AM broadcast stations. This is nothing new. Unless of course you really WANT to believe this is something it's not..... |
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I once heard someone on c to c (the coast to coast KOOK show) say they
put a new cassette tape in a cassette recorder and with no body in the room or nearby and no radio or tv turned on,he picked up some human voices on his tape recorder.Of course I dont believe that hogwash. cuhulin |
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But when I get down,I can't get back up.Some KOOKS on c to c say they
have photographed ghost with their cameras.Such Hogwash! cuhulin |
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
Rastis P. Buttsnort wrote: All that's happening is a simple case of "Rectification". You are hearing one or more AM broadcast stations. This is nothing new. Unless of course you really WANT to believe this is something it's not..... If this was rectification of AM stations, then why: - No music, advertising, or anything else shows up, but yet - Sometimes clear voices are heard saying vulgar words which would never be allowed on any AM station, and - Sometimes prophetic statements are made using my own name and the name of other witnesses present or deeply involved in the experiments, and - In one instance I heard what sounded like several loud chickens bocking at such a large volume it would've surely been heard at room volume (incidently, these loud "animal-like" sounds always appear toward the end of the recording, shortly before I hit "stop" - but yet there is no interference with the audio plug or movement by myself before stopping the recording, yet they are often a hallmark of the brief mostly 30-second recordings I do)? To one extreme I heard a death threat used against one of my co-workers. To the other I heard statements like "you did not work today" (which I hadn't) and "no mouse pad" (which I use none). Overall, if you count the digital recordings from the cemetery (where no white noise was present except for the internal components of the rather silent recorder), the house, and plugged directly into the back of the scanner, I've stored thousands of unexplained voices - and it would've been impossible for the scanner to pick up AM stations in the cemetery (and along with the fact that most all the voices sounded had thick country accents and sounded African-American in nature with poor grammar, I find the odds of this being rectification far-fetched). A group of friends and I were so intrigued with some of the voices from the cemetery, we made a CD which had some of our best recordings and submitted it at work and to other people with a brief survey for the listener to circle either AGREE, DISAGREE, or UNDECIDED as to whether they heard the same voice and believed it was saying the same thing as we did. And of course, several EVPs (electronic voice phenomenon) had an agreement rate of over 95% of nearly 30 people. I am not debating the existence of EVPs using a recorder and a source of white noise, TV static, etc., for the conduit. I am asking you for a plausible explanation that would explain voices saying your name, sometimes vulgar words, etc., with such clarity that witnesses all agree on what is being said but have no explanation as to how or why they are showing up on a recording of of a frequency with nothing audible on it when not recording. And one last thought... how could such clear voices and sounds (sometimes very loud in nature but yet inaudible while not being recorded) be showing up on *any* frequency with a squelch level of only 1 or 2? I thought perhaps the audio cable to the recorder acted like some sort of antenna but in reality it's not even hooked into the external antenna jack. Anyway, I'd rather at times believe there *are no* spirits that followed me back, which is why I'm trying one last time to come to a plausible conclusion which would explain away the voices which have been picked up on tape, recorded, and catalogued for the record. Thank you for helping to solve this mystery... Jeff |
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I thought chickens "clucked", not "bucked"...
wrote in message ups.com... Rastis P. Buttsnort wrote: All that's happening is a simple case of "Rectification". You are hearing one or more AM broadcast stations. This is nothing new. Unless of course you really WANT to believe this is something it's not..... If this was rectification of AM stations, then why: - No music, advertising, or anything else shows up, but yet - Sometimes clear voices are heard saying vulgar words which would never be allowed on any AM station, and - Sometimes prophetic statements are made using my own name and the name of other witnesses present or deeply involved in the experiments, and - In one instance I heard what sounded like several loud chickens bocking at such a large volume it would've surely been heard at room volume (incidently, these loud "animal-like" sounds always appear toward the end of the recording, shortly before I hit "stop" - but yet there is no interference with the audio plug or movement by myself before stopping the recording, yet they are often a hallmark of the brief mostly 30-second recordings I do)? To one extreme I heard a death threat used against one of my co-workers. To the other I heard statements like "you did not work today" (which I hadn't) and "no mouse pad" (which I use none). Overall, if you count the digital recordings from the cemetery (where no white noise was present except for the internal components of the rather silent recorder), the house, and plugged directly into the back of the scanner, I've stored thousands of unexplained voices - and it would've been impossible for the scanner to pick up AM stations in the cemetery (and along with the fact that most all the voices sounded had thick country accents and sounded African-American in nature with poor grammar, I find the odds of this being rectification far-fetched). A group of friends and I were so intrigued with some of the voices from the cemetery, we made a CD which had some of our best recordings and submitted it at work and to other people with a brief survey for the listener to circle either AGREE, DISAGREE, or UNDECIDED as to whether they heard the same voice and believed it was saying the same thing as we did. And of course, several EVPs (electronic voice phenomenon) had an agreement rate of over 95% of nearly 30 people. I am not debating the existence of EVPs using a recorder and a source of white noise, TV static, etc., for the conduit. I am asking you for a plausible explanation that would explain voices saying your name, sometimes vulgar words, etc., with such clarity that witnesses all agree on what is being said but have no explanation as to how or why they are showing up on a recording of of a frequency with nothing audible on it when not recording. And one last thought... how could such clear voices and sounds (sometimes very loud in nature but yet inaudible while not being recorded) be showing up on *any* frequency with a squelch level of only 1 or 2? I thought perhaps the audio cable to the recorder acted like some sort of antenna but in reality it's not even hooked into the external antenna jack. Anyway, I'd rather at times believe there *are no* spirits that followed me back, which is why I'm trying one last time to come to a plausible conclusion which would explain away the voices which have been picked up on tape, recorded, and catalogued for the record. Thank you for helping to solve this mystery... Jeff |
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this is known as E.V.P. or electronic voice phenomena. it is reputed to
be the voices of dead people, or spirits, or devils, depending on who tells the story. personally i believe that it is a combination of imagination and the millions of spoken words hanging in the air on radio at any given moment. there is a variation if you want to get really freaked out, set a tv on a blank station with no signal. listen to the hiss and you will hear the same kind of words and bits........but sit close and watch the sparkles on the screen and you will see faces and images zoom out of the static! its quite disturbing! i think that the explanation is this, your brain is constantly comparing every visual stimuli with its gallery of known objects. this is how you recognise peoples faces or different objects. the sparkles on the screen have every pixel flashing and your brain is trying to make recognizable patterns. when a pattern is detected the memory of the object rises up to be considered. by this time the random sparkles have changed, thus the object or face rises to your mind then evaporates as another pattern is struggling to be resolved. in your minds eye the face has zoomed up out of the static and then zoomed away. the audio seems to be the same thing, words resolve out of the hiss and then are lost forever. the best part is psychological, you seem to recognise the word or picture but since it has gone away now you cant prove that it was never there to begin with! soon you are on the art bell show with a great story that you really do believe and nobody can disprove! great fun! |
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Jim Hackett wrote: I thought chickens "clucked", not "bucked"... Sorry, I was thinking of the slang term ("bok, bok") for the odd sounds they make. To tell you the truth, I'm not much of a chicken fan - either living, dead and cooked, or ghost chicken. :) |
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Jim wrote:
explanation is this, your brain is constantly comparing every visual stimuli with its gallery of known objects. this is how you recognise peoples faces or different objects. the sparkles on the screen have every pixel flashing and your brain is trying to make recognizable patterns. I agree fully with what you are saying. It's the same way people claim to see faces in smoke, clouds, etc. However, the way ITC (instrumental transcommunication, in which EVP is only one subcategory of) works is not trying to make patterns out of TV snow or even recording the static with a VCR, but: - Putting the TV on the Auxilliary channel so the channel is blank on most TV sets, - Hooking the RCA plugs of a video camera up to the TV, and - Pointing the camera at the screen (so you're essentially recording into infinity - the camera is hooked up to the TV but yet is recording a picture into a picture into a picture) - Recording what is picked up and playing it back, then freezing it *frame-by-frame* If this is done with patience and the right equipment, rather defined human faces will show up for many people. Take a look at a few he http://inicia.es/de/luisfountain/itc_1.htm As you can see, it's not the same as simply recording TV static and playing it back - sure, you'll see patterns and probably faces, but it'll not be exactly the same concept of video ITC. when a pattern is detected the memory of the object rises up to be considered. by this time the random sparkles have changed, thus the object or face rises to your mind then evaporates as another pattern is struggling to be resolved. in your minds eye the face has zoomed up out of the static and then zoomed away. the audio seems to be the same thing, words resolve out of the hiss and then are lost forever. As far as words being taken out of TV static or other white noise, I fully understand where you are coming from. That's why it's best to use a recorder and have witnesses listen to the tape at the same time as you. Often times a voice will be so clear, far above the sound level and static of the white noise, that everyone will hear it and instantly agree on what it is saying. If you visit the cemetery often enough trying to communicate with spirits, you're going to get some that follow you home. Initially (before doing research at the cemetery, which was dilapidated and many graves had no marker, only a mound of dirt, and had been vandalized several times in the past with crypts being broken into, and so on) I could get no voices on my recordings that I did in my own house - and I even used white noise for the background. Now I can pick up loud voices with NO white noise in the background. On a few disturbing occassions, the recorder itself seemed to be temporarily altered and the voices were yelling in threatening tones. What makes me almost certain this is not hearing imaginary voices in static is that the voices are sometimes 5x the volume level of the white noise, and when they show up on the recording so you can play back, get other peoples' intentions, and save on the computer, then the brain-pattern-imagery theory falls apart. The only other *logical* explanation is a stray signal (remember, no antenna is used and you can even use a ceiling fan) or someone in the room talking (which you'd surely notice while doing the recording). Next time you're lying in bed trying to sleep and you have the air conditioning on or the ceiling fan on and think you hear something being said, it is not necessarily your imagination. An easy way to confirm whether there truly was a voice is to make a recording. If your house is old you may be picking up EVPs (or video ITC if you try it) in no time. If your house is relatively new, you probably won't hear much unless you really put time and dedication into receiving results, or start going to disturbed cemeteries and basically invite spirits (and most likely trouble) back into your home by simply doing EVP recordings at the cemetery. This I don't recommend unless you are ready to be scared out of your mind. And once that happens, it won't be nearly as easy explaining things away by brain/pattern theories and AM rectification as it is now, considering most of you have no experience with the process of ITC/EVP. the best part is psychological, you seem to recognise the word or picture but since it has gone away now you cant prove that it was never there to begin with! soon you are on the art bell show with a great story that you really do believe and nobody can disprove! great fun! Explaining something away by logic to the satisfaction of those who have no experience with the phenomenon is an easy way for people to dismiss this research. That is why I give an open invitation for anyone with a little time and the access to a digital recorder and computer with shareware sound software to go ahead and try it. Jeff Side note: Since we constructed the machine in my back bedroom, I have recently put up a surveillance camera with its own microphone and fed the cable to the TV in the living room, so I can see what happens in the room while nobody is in there. Orbs, or bright white spheres have been witnessed and many times zoom up in the air in a curving motion, opposite the way dust might settle (no a/c was on and no insects were in the room after inspection). I recently bought a VCR to record myself tinkering with the device and for the first time on the tape heard my name "Jeffffrey" being spoken through the microphone and onto the TV's sound. This was the only voice uncovered before I became filled with fear and turned off the recording, but the voice was far above the room's background sound level. This never occurred before by just listening to the audio with others. It only occurred after the sound was recorded, so now it appears that almost any microphone will pick up EVPs from that room. |
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One Hung Low wrote:
First, I believe you mean the magnetic iron oxide, not silica, which is sand. You would have to have a STRONG modulated -magnetic- field to inadvertently pick up "mysterious" voices. Finally, what makes you think a digital recorder is immune to rectification? -EACH- IC (Integrated Circuit chip) in the digital recorder contains hundreds of P-N junctions which ARE rectifiers and thus susceptible to unwanted rectification of RF fields. Bottom line: a digital recorder is equally or -more- likely to pick up a stray RF field than a analog tape recorder. Then I have one question and one assumption: Is there a way of making a recording of the environment without the possibility of rectification? And... a leading theory in EVP is: "EVP is considered to be radio frequency signals that inadvertently find their way into your recordings by way of cross-modulation, atmospheric refraction or indirect rectification. Many paranormal investigators feel that these voices or signals are somehow connected to ghosts." Let's say for the sake of debate that some voices using the EVP process are genuinely otherworldly or from another dimension. They have to show up on our recording apparatus somehow, and I guess the leading theory is that this is through RF signals. The question of "how" is beyond my league. I simply deal with results, and the results - Contain language, complete first-and-last names of myself and others who are involved in this research, prophetic messages, etc., that would never be broadcast on any AM or other radio station. - The phrases are often times speeded up during certain words, as if the message is trying to be purposely fit into a short time. Some EVPs are so fast that you have to slow down the speech to understand it. - I can pick up louder and more clear words (actually sounding like they're coming from vocal chords) without *any* background sound or white noise, as opposed to the relatively weaker and more monotone voices picked up from the scanner, using the *same* recorder in the same setting during the same atmospheric events (weather, solar flares) - Some voices are so loud and clear that it would be highly improbable for someone doing a simple recording to explain away by a stray radio signal, unless it's coming from another dimension. If you would try EVP for yourself and judge the voices you capture on an objective, one-by-one basis, instead of dismissing every voice anyone has ever picked up as having no chance of being paranormal in nature, you might question more the world around you. It just so happens that EVP is the best way to get evidence of that world. PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay. It retailed for $40. Which proves nothing except that a) the Panasonic design weenie was not cognizant of standard RFI mitigation techniques. If that is why the recorder was so good for EVP, then someone could easily alter another recorder or build their own and sell it as an EVP recorder and make a considerable amount of money, considering the public's interest has skyrocketed. b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute. As a seller, ya gotta love eBay! I have another explanation: People in today's society are lazy and want to take the easiest route to accomplish something - if there was a "holy grail" of EVP recorders, people would buy it instead of spending time working from the ground up with a standard recorder. Sure, my recorder didn't even pick up voices at first. Then gradually some voices were picked up. Now I can't do a 30-second session without sometimes dozens of voices showing up, speaking over top each other, without any white noise. And that seems to correlate with my own travels to cemeteries and the building of a machine to communicate with other dimensions. If you were a spirit and had a message to convey, you'd probably gravitate toward someone who was spending time trying to open up the door to communication. EVP research (it's research because it can't easily be explained away by those who were skeptical at first but did their own investigation of the phenomenon) takes patience, an open mind, and no particular belief system starting out. But it's not recommended for everybody. In fact, I took the easy way out by trying to visit places in hopes something would follow me back. Now it has, and I can pick it up anytime I want to. Jeff |
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m II wrote:
wrote: I'm not much of a chicken fan - either living, dead and cooked, or ghost chicken. :) Guess you've never experienced Poultrygeist.... lol... nor would I want to. Though I'm sure it's not nearly as scary as Coultergeist. |
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wrote: wrote: I once heard someone on c to c (the coast to coast KOOK show) say they put a new cassette tape in a cassette recorder and with no body in the room or nearby and no radio or tv turned on,he picked up some human voices on his tape recorder.Of course I dont believe that hogwash. cuhulin EVP experiments have been quite substantiated in laboratory settings. Before dismissing something as "hogwash" why don't you try for yourself? Simply make a 30-second recording with preferably a digital recorder (that way you don't try to explain away the voices by thinking the cassette tape was previously recorded on or the magnetic silica that make up the tape are somehow picking up stray radio broadcasts) and ask some simple questions. It's best to do it with a small bit of white noise in the background - if you're worried about rectification from your scanner or radio, try a TV station full of static with the antenna unplugged, or a ceiling fan, etc. Then upload the recording and amplify the sound a little (amplification in no way alters the recording, only makes the voices easier to decipher). We've picked up so many EVPs that EVP itself is now boring and a dead-end of sorts. Hence the need to set up apparatus for 2-way radio communication using tones being sent to various frequencies (the original Spiricom experment used 29.570 MHz), then waiting for days, months, or even years until you get that first contact. It's more about patience than believing, because once you do pick up the voices, you will certainly question the reality you live in. You're a f00kin k00k. dxAce Michigan USA |
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ups.com: Jim wrote: explanation is this, your brain is constantly comparing every visual stimuli with its gallery of known objects. this is how you recognise peoples faces or different objects. the sparkles on the screen have every pixel flashing and your brain is trying to make recognizable patterns. I agree fully with what you are saying. It's the same way people claim to see faces in smoke, clouds, etc. However, the way ITC (instrumental transcommunication, in which EVP is only one subcategory of) works is not trying to make patterns out of TV snow or even recording the static with a VCR, but: - Putting the TV on the Auxilliary channel so the channel is blank on most TV sets, - Hooking the RCA plugs of a video camera up to the TV, and - Pointing the camera at the screen (so you're essentially recording into infinity - the camera is hooked up to the TV but yet is recording a picture into a picture into a picture) - Recording what is picked up and playing it back, then freezing it *frame-by-frame* If this is done with patience and the right equipment, rather defined human faces will show up for many people. Take a look at a few he http://inicia.es/de/luisfountain/itc_1.htm As you can see, it's not the same as simply recording TV static and playing it back - sure, you'll see patterns and probably faces, but it'll not be exactly the same concept of video ITC. when a pattern is detected the memory of the object rises up to be considered. by this time the random sparkles have changed, thus the object or face rises to your mind then evaporates as another pattern is struggling to be resolved. in your minds eye the face has zoomed up out of the static and then zoomed away. the audio seems to be the same thing, words resolve out of the hiss and then are lost forever. As far as words being taken out of TV static or other white noise, I fully understand where you are coming from. That's why it's best to use a recorder and have witnesses listen to the tape at the same time as you. Often times a voice will be so clear, far above the sound level and static of the white noise, that everyone will hear it and instantly agree on what it is saying. If you visit the cemetery often enough trying to communicate with spirits, you're going to get some that follow you home. Initially (before doing research at the cemetery, which was dilapidated and many graves had no marker, only a mound of dirt, and had been vandalized several times in the past with crypts being broken into, and so on) I could get no voices on my recordings that I did in my own house - and I even used white noise for the background. Now I can pick up loud voices with NO white noise in the background. On a few disturbing occassions, the recorder itself seemed to be temporarily altered and the voices were yelling in threatening tones. What makes me almost certain this is not hearing imaginary voices in static is that the voices are sometimes 5x the volume level of the white noise, and when they show up on the recording so you can play back, get other peoples' intentions, and save on the computer, then the brain-pattern-imagery theory falls apart. The only other *logical* explanation is a stray signal (remember, no antenna is used and you can even use a ceiling fan) or someone in the room talking (which you'd surely notice while doing the recording). Next time you're lying in bed trying to sleep and you have the air conditioning on or the ceiling fan on and think you hear something being said, it is not necessarily your imagination. An easy way to confirm whether there truly was a voice is to make a recording. If your house is old you may be picking up EVPs (or video ITC if you try it) in no time. If your house is relatively new, you probably won't hear much unless you really put time and dedication into receiving results, or start going to disturbed cemeteries and basically invite spirits (and most likely trouble) back into your home by simply doing EVP recordings at the cemetery. This I don't recommend unless you are ready to be scared out of your mind. And once that happens, it won't be nearly as easy explaining things away by brain/pattern theories and AM rectification as it is now, considering most of you have no experience with the process of ITC/EVP. the best part is psychological, you seem to recognise the word or picture but since it has gone away now you cant prove that it was never there to begin with! soon you are on the art bell show with a great story that you really do believe and nobody can disprove! great fun! Explaining something away by logic to the satisfaction of those who have no experience with the phenomenon is an easy way for people to dismiss this research. That is why I give an open invitation for anyone with a little time and the access to a digital recorder and computer with shareware sound software to go ahead and try it. Jeff Side note: Since we constructed the machine in my back bedroom, I have recently put up a surveillance camera with its own microphone and fed the cable to the TV in the living room, so I can see what happens in the room while nobody is in there. Orbs, or bright white spheres have been witnessed and many times zoom up in the air in a curving motion, opposite the way dust might settle (no a/c was on and no insects were in the room after inspection). I recently bought a VCR to record myself tinkering with the device and for the first time on the tape heard my name "Jeffffrey" being spoken through the microphone and onto the TV's sound. This was the only voice uncovered before I became filled with fear and turned off the recording, but the voice was far above the room's background sound level. This never occurred before by just listening to the audio with others. It only occurred after the sound was recorded, so now it appears that almost any microphone will pick up EVPs from that room. Jim is exactly correct. I see absolutley nothing in those pictures at the link you posted. You are seeing your minds attempt to make sense out of nonsense. You clearly very much WANT to believe. But if one has to WANT to believe then it is not true. On the bright side, I'm sure that others WANT to believe too and if you can find enough of them you could start a new lucrative religion. Kevin |
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m II wrote in news:P89Eg.4328$395.4125@edtnps90:
wrote: I'm not much of a chicken fan - either living, dead and cooked, or ghost chicken. :) Guess you've never experienced Poultrygeist.... mike Ha Ha Ha. Now that made me laugh! |
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www.coasttocoastam.com Phone their toll free phone number and get Art
Bell or George Noory or Ian Punett or whomever the host of the show is to explain it. cuhulin |
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I do own a little RCA six hour digital recorder,and several cassette
tape recorders too.(the Bell South woman or that other woman lost the battery cover and the instruction manual when I loaned it to them last Feburary) My Radio Shack Pro-91 hand held scanner radio has an earphone jack on top by the antenna and on/off/volume control knob and the squelch knob.How should I hook it up? cuhuln |
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I own one or two old Panasonic tape recorders,I dont know what the model
numbers are,I would have to hunt them up out of my piles of junk and see.I see one at the Goodwill store every once in a while.Maybe I will start a collection of them. cuhulin |
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If I started hearing ''noises'',I would have to go change my pants.
cuhulin |
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We've picked up so many EVPs that EVP itself is now boring and a
dead-end of sorts. Hence the need to set up apparatus for 2-way radio communication using tones being sent to various frequencies (the original Spiricom experment used 29.570 MHz), then waiting for days, months, or even years until you get that first contact. It's more about patience than believing, because once you do pick up the voices, you will certainly question the reality you live in. Jeff So, why do you think spirits use the radio? |
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wrote: m II wrote: wrote: I'm not much of a chicken fan - either living, dead and cooked, or ghost chicken. :) Guess you've never experienced Poultrygeist.... lol... nor would I want to. Though I'm sure it's not nearly as scary as Coultergeist. I'd never eat a cooked bird in a slim black dress ... but that's just me. Jeff, are you in St. Augustine? *shrug* Just curious. |
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Back in the 1970's I saw a program on tv.The program was about our souls
do have weight.It was scientificully tested when a person was on a hospital bed.When that person passed away,that person was suddenly/instantly three ounces lighter in weight.Whether that is actually true or not,I dont know. cuhulin |
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Your explanations sound good in theory, but do not explain how some
EVPs show up so loud that they are not just an auditory hallucination of the white noise. Some are actually louder than my *own* voice asking questions on the tape. Of course the accent was so thick that people can't decide on what exactly it's saying, but they more most startled by the sheer presence of it. Some question me whether it was a joke because to them it defies rational explanation. If rectification was taking place through a digital recorder, what would be the maximum volume of it? I've never heard of *loud* voices showing up. In fact, the quality and type and accent of the voices reach such a wide spectrum that they are impossible to all explain away by any one theory. But the more theories you use to try to explain them all away, it's more plausible there may be a paranormal connection - that is just for argument's sake. After hundreds of hours of research with thousands of voices, and the odd events surrounding my life during that time, I firmly believe most of these voices are paranormal in nature. It's also interesting that nobody has asked me to listen to the clearest voices. It would be impossible to convince you of their paranormal origin because I'd be asking you to change your belief system over something you've never researched or tried yourself. Now *that* would be kooky. Jeff |
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Ghost dont have substance.There they do not exist.
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Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
wrote: I do own a little RCA six hour digital recorder,and several cassette tape recorders too.(the Bell South woman or that other woman lost the battery cover and the instruction manual when I loaned it to them last Feburary) My Radio Shack Pro-91 hand held scanner radio has an earphone jack on top by the antenna and on/off/volume control knob and the squelch knob.How should I hook it up? cuhuln I too use an RCA recorder, a 5012A model. My friend uses a 5012B model but it doesn't work as well. Many say it depends on who is using the recorder. For some reason I don't get nearly as many voices when the recorder is left by itself, but if the operator is near it, the more success you'll have. I think it's because they use your energy somehow. Get an audio cable and plug from the mic jack on the recorder to the earphone jack on the scanner, tune to a random frequency with only static and press record. Record for about 30 seconds and upload the tape onto your computer and amplify the sound (shareware software like Cool Edit is best, and also the use of a Denoiser helps: http://www.speechpro.com/production/?id=468&fid=7 click on "Denoiser Demo" on top right of the screen - it only allows you to denoise 30 seconds at a time but that's perfect for EVP recordings. I have not used the Virtos Denoiser or other newer denoiser software which have popped up overnight). Some here may argue that the use of a denoiser may corrupt the results further, but experiments with it using my own faint voice over a lot of white noise proved beneficial in that the denoiser clearly brought out my voice which was nearly inaudible over the static. Remember, everything in the universe involves energy. It would take a particularly strong spirit to yell or scream on a tape. Most voices are faint but as you record and experiment more they get stronger. Soon you'll recognize who they are by their voice. For a control, do a separate recording of the frequency without plugging it through the scanner. For some reason the voices that appear through the scanner are more monotone, and the ones in the room with the scanner used as background noise are more dimensional in nature. Good luck and feel free to email me if you need help. Jeff |
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Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
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oups.com: wrote: I once heard someone on c to c (the coast to coast KOOK show) say they put a new cassette tape in a cassette recorder and with no body in the room or nearby and no radio or tv turned on,he picked up some human voices on his tape recorder.Of course I dont believe that hogwash. cuhulin EVP experiments have been quite substantiated in laboratory settings. Before dismissing something as "hogwash" why don't you try for yourself? Simply make a 30-second recording with preferably a digital recorder (that way you don't try to explain away the voices by thinking the cassette tape was previously recorded on or the magnetic silica that make up the tape are somehow picking up stray radio broadcasts) and ask some simple questions. It's best to do it with a small bit of white noise in the background - if you're worried about rectification from your scanner or radio, try a TV station full of static with the antenna unplugged, or a ceiling fan, etc. Then upload the recording and amplify the sound a little (amplification in no way alters the recording, only makes the voices easier to decipher). We've picked up so many EVPs that EVP itself is now boring and a dead-end of sorts. Hence the need to set up apparatus for 2-way radio communication using tones being sent to various frequencies (the original Spiricom experment used 29.570 MHz), then waiting for days, months, or even years until you get that first contact. It's more about patience than believing, because once you do pick up the voices, you will certainly question the reality you live in. Jeff PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay. It retailed for $40. How do you normally prepare yourself for the experiment. Sniff glue? Mushrooms? Lick a toad? LSD? SC |
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
email George Noory at www.coasttocoastam.com Tell him you are
going to send him a Ouija Board.I did that about four years ago.He emailed me back,he said, Noooooooooooooooo cuhulin |
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
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Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
My little doggy kisses my right ear (sometimes my left ear) when she
needs to go out in the front yard.Is she a spirit? When she croaks,will I be ''hearing voices'' from her grave? She really can say my Larry name. cuhulin |
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
One Hung Low wrote:
b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute. http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html mike |
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
One Hung Low wrote:
Now this is indeed puzzling. Why would going to a cemetery, abandoned or otherwise, bring "negativity" back to your home? Is -everyone- buried there a bad person? Weren't any good people buried there too? If there are "spirits", are you implying that they are all bad? I am speaking from personal experience and the experience of the dozen or so people who went with me. Panic attacks, paranoia, threatening voices on recordings, etc. I've gone to other well-kept cemeteries and did not pick up *any* voices. But yet a vandalized old black cemetery with open holes in crypts, dug up graves, mounds of sand marking graves, etc., seemed to produce so many voices many were speaking on top of each other. Sometimes in one 10-second recording over 5 voices could be identified. Why would there be so many voices in one cemetery, but not others? Why would my house then have so many voices on recordings when before going to this cemetery it did not? Why have people told me they have sensed spirits at my house? Why are some people so scared they have to urinate outside the house rather than go into the guest bathroom? Why has one of my relatives (since these experiments begun) actually see a misty presence of a woman in a brand new house (she has never witnessed a ghost before and has no reason to lie about what she saw). This is just the tip of the iceberg, yet none of this occurred *before* going to this cemetery. Of course, all of this can be explained away. You can also either explain away the moon landing as a hoax or say it really happened ... two theories yet only one reality. You base yours on lack of experience with this sort of thing ... I base mine on what I and others have witnessed firsthand. Why don't you just spend some time experimenting on your own instead of assuming that all my experiences are irrevelant? I'm not here to argue the afterlife. I only came here to try to come to another conclusion (for the peace of mind) that would explain these weird events, and so far (brain/pattern or AM stations) have led to more doubt than plausibility. Jeff |
Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices
One Hung Low wrote:
Please, I really am confused as to why the spirits would dick around with scanners, white noise, RF, de-noiser software and all that technical mumbo-jumbo. Brilliant minds have often had trouble communicating their ideas to others. But that's another story. Considering spirits are made up of energy, they obviously need energy to communicate and implant their voices onto our equipment. One of the most brilliant minds ever, Thomas Edison, along with Marconi, Crookes, and many of the greatest scientists of the 20th century all believed it was possible to communicate with the dead through radio. I think any one of them would be smarter than most everyone in this group, and they obviously had a good reason to believe this was possible. The first EVPs showed up in the 1920s. Science has had all that time to explain them away, only more and more evidence is showing up to discount traditional theories. How did "the spirits" ever get by before tape recorders and scanners? The way some of them still do - dreams, materialization (which happened to my relative), automatic writing, even some seances, and direct voice. If "the spirits" are so technically savvy, why can't they figure out how to just whisper in your ear? Many of them do - but that would involve someone who is sensitive. Why do many sensitives belong to the same genetic traits and families? Some day a "sensitive/psychic gene" will be discovered. There are also a lot of equipment which picks up different forms of energy and radiation - radio waves, x-rays, UV light, etc. - yet you don't hear radio waves until they're picked up on your equipment. Who's to say spirits aren't energy which can only be picked up in our current 3-dimensional world by people of a different genetic background, dreams, and certain electronic equipment? Seeing isn't necessarily believing, and believing is almost never seeing. It's what lies within, not on the pages of some science textbook. Jeff |
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