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Well last night I decided to fool around on MW just for the heck of it.
I was tuning around and found a station on 850, weak but definitely
listenable. Eventually I heard an ID: it was WYLF out of Penn Yan, NY.
Penn Yan is on the other (i.e., the western) side of NY State, not far
from Lake Ontario. Not exactly DX, but I looked this station up in the
FCC database and its nighttime power is a humble 0.045 KW. During the
day they get to crank it up to 1 KW.

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Steve wrote:

Well last night I decided to fool around on MW just for the heck of it.
I was tuning around and found a station on 850, weak but definitely
listenable. Eventually I heard an ID: it was WYLF out of Penn Yan, NY.
Penn Yan is on the other (i.e., the western) side of NY State, not far
from Lake Ontario. Not exactly DX, but I looked this station up in the
FCC database and its nighttime power is a humble 0.045 KW. During the
day they get to crank it up to 1 KW.


Perhaps they forgot to cut the power. I've read some things of late that
indicate that some of those stations fail to cut their power at night for
whatever reason, sometimes apparently if they have some local sports games on
they will keep the power up to keep the local populace happy. The FCC apparently
turns a blind eye.

At any rate an interesting catch, and an interesting town name as well, almost
has an Asian sound to it.

dxAce
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dxAce wrote:
Perhaps they forgot to cut the power. I've read some things of late that
indicate that some of those stations fail to cut their power at night for
whatever reason, sometimes apparently if they have some local sports games on
they will keep the power up to keep the local populace happy. The FCC apparently
turns a blind eye.


Indeed, WYLF was fined $11,000 in 2005 for violations including
excessive power. (not only was it running excessive power at night, but
it was also running too much during the day! - nighttime power
violations are common but daytime violations are quite rare)

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2005/DA-05-680A1.html

The owner of a daytime-only station recently sent a message to several
AM DX mailing lists indicating that there is in fact a FCC "blind eye"
towards stations that stay on daytime facilities to carry Friday-night
high-school football games. I would be very surprised if anyone at the
Commission would acknowledge such a policy, but I'm coming to believe
such a policy does exist - as the FCC would have very little trouble
finding night power violations on any given Friday night!

--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

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Doug Smith W9WI wrote:

[...] I would be very surprised if anyone at the
Commission would acknowledge such a policy, but I'm coming to believe
such a policy does exist [...]


That would be admitting to either negligence or being complicit in a
crime or otherwise expose themselves to liability -- in other words,
it ain't gonna happen.

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often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940
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Hello,Penn Yan.Ever heard of Painted Post before? I am busy watching an
old,old Shirley Temple movie on tv and doggy is buried down between my
knees,as usual.
cuhulin



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Hello,Penn Yan.Ever heard of Painted Post before? I am busy watching an
old,old Shirley Temple movie on tv and doggy is buried down between my
knees,as usual.
cuhulin


Nothing new there, you sick pervert. Get help.

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Doug Smith W9WI wrote in
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Indeed, WYLF was fined $11,000 in 2005 for violations including
excessive power. (not only was it running excessive power at night,
but it was also running too much during the day! - nighttime power
violations are common but daytime violations are quite rare)

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2005/DA-05-680A1.html


I live in the area. Yes, WYLF was fined for excessive power, and also
because the fence around their tower was in bad shape and not secured. The
excessive power citation came after at least two previous warnings, so it's
not like the FCC blasted them with a big fine for a single instance of
accidentally (or deliberately) "forgetting" to reduce power at night. The
violation fell into the "willful and deliberate" category since it was at
least the third time they had been caught doing it.

About four years ago, WWLZ (820) in Elmira was cited for the opposite
problem... being on their nighttime directional pattern (and *reduced*
power) during the middle of the day. 700 watts instead of their authorized
daytime power of 5 KW. That came to light during a surprise station
inspection by an FCC field engineer. No fines were levied - just a warning
- as it was determined the mistake was due mainly to inadequately trained
staff at the station. The automatic time-of-day-based power/pattern
switching function in the transmitter remote control was either inop, or
mis-programmed.

The board ops were dutifully and accurately entering the transmitter
readings in the log as required, but apparently no one had any clue as to
what the numbers actually signified. I wonder if they had noticed that
their electric bills had gone down?

It's what happens when stations have no engineering staff. Most smaller
operations use contract engineers who only get called in when something is
seriously amiss (like being completely off the air.)

Jim Barrett



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I have heard WEE(?) during Spanish broadcasts on 770kHz out of the St.Louis
area taking over flame-thrower WABC at night. Really ****ed me off when the
John Batchelor Show was on.

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dxAce wrote:
Perhaps they forgot to cut the power. I've read some things of late that
indicate that some of those stations fail to cut their power at night

for
whatever reason, sometimes apparently if they have some local sports

games on
they will keep the power up to keep the local populace happy. The FCC

apparently
turns a blind eye.


Indeed, WYLF was fined $11,000 in 2005 for violations including
excessive power. (not only was it running excessive power at night, but
it was also running too much during the day! - nighttime power
violations are common but daytime violations are quite rare)

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2005/DA-05-680A1.html

The owner of a daytime-only station recently sent a message to several
AM DX mailing lists indicating that there is in fact a FCC "blind eye"
towards stations that stay on daytime facilities to carry Friday-night
high-school football games. I would be very surprised if anyone at the
Commission would acknowledge such a policy, but I'm coming to believe
such a policy does exist - as the FCC would have very little trouble
finding night power violations on any given Friday night!

--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com



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Oh. Of course, what this means is that Friday evenings between local
sunset and whenever the football games end (say, 8-9pm local time at the
station?) can be a VERY productive time to put some smaller AM stations
in your log. Especially as they're likely to be running lots of local
advertising and mentioning the names of the schools frequently.

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Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com



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